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  1. Richard, I agree that former MK Carmel Shama-HaCohen elaborated a bit more than is expected of a former intelligence operative on his website profile, but there’s really nothing newsworthy here. The idea that “Special Investigations” = assassinations is your own interpretation and to present it as fact or as an inadvertent admission by the former MK is shoddy journalism to put it lightly. It may very well be true but there is nothing here to prove it. In any case, as you mentioned it is well known that Sayeret Matkal has engaged in such operations and that unit boasts two former Prime Ministers, not to mention Shamir, Begin, Sharon and Rabin who were all involved in similar operations during the early stages of their careers and most if not all of them actually pulled some triggers. The desk-job held by the former MK seems to pale in comparison…

    1. There certainly is a great deal to prove it. First my own high level source confirmed it. Second, the lawyer for veterans of the unit said in the Yediot article I summarized that one of their professional specialities was “killer.” For unbelievers I can upload a jpg of the actual article.

  2. These people haveg no scruples at all! In the USA this woiuld never happen. When CIA folks tried to sue in court on their conracts — and what, may I ask, IS a contract if not a ticket to court in case of breach of that contract? — they were tossed out, the court accepting the ELEGANT PATRIOTIC (gov’t) argument that the contract itself cannot be made public without breaching national security!

    Gotcha! You AMERICAN CIA-niks thought you had an enforcable contract, didn;’t you! HA! (Well, I guess the gov’t coukld enforce it, but not the little guys.)

    BUT SERIOUSLY, if you join a service in which you are supposed to KEEP YOPUR MOUTH SHUT and be willing to DIE FOR YOUR COUNTRY, how can you later claim for health benefits? SHOULDN’T YOU JUST LIE DOWN, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, and suffer (or die)? Oh! A contract? Well, duh!

    It’s a funny thing, isn’t it, being (for patriotic reasons or for love of intrigue and carnage) a CRIMINAL, working for your government, not allowed to tell anyone about your wonderful CRIMINAL EXPLOITS, somehow entitled to wages (or not) and to other benefits (or not) according to a contract that — one imagines — must also be kept secret.

    I always thought that the CIA (USA) and MOSSAD (Israel) were the sole external CRIMINAL organizations and that the ARMY was just for fighting wars (altho, these days, that often merges with criminality, too).

    1. What if the government took advantage of your classified employment and arduous training to use you as an unwitting medical guinea pig for a toxicity experiment? Wouldn’t you want medical expenses, if not exemplary damages?

      1. at last, thanks for bringing the main point, damages to the victims.
        so far, we are hearing about the pensions of the perpetrators, and their lawyers, soon they will request damages for “trauma”, as they had to endure the discomfort of seeing the suffering they caused.
        too bad all the journalists here are working hard to prevent victims from being recognized and compensated. I suspect that victims’ requests will be duly trashed and ignored, but emails from foreigners, at least get confirmation of receipt.

    2. @pabelmont
      You can’t treat agents like shit or they join the other side or spill the beans, which is why they (CIA, British Intelligence, etc.) payoff people with such large sums if they can.

    3. So the Aman unit is part and parcel of the mafia state, employed as hit men and death squads. All in the name of some bizarre security concerns of the Dons who rule over the great pretend democracy. Why, the heart breaks for the poor murderers and their not-so-generous pensions.

      What is it they say? you lie down with dogs and you wake up with fleas.

  3. Umm, there’s no secret here. You have claimed that by posting that he served in this unit, he has exposed a unit that nobody ever knew existed and nobody ever knew what they did. That makes no sense.
    Your claim that the unit has never been mentioned in the media is false. I doubt you even speak Hebrew, but for those who do here is just one example of a news article that mentioned his service in this unit.
    It seems like you’re digging really deep trying to save face from the nonsense you posted about Zygier that turned out to be totally false. Maybe you should spend a few minutes doing basic research on google next time before you post these ridiculous stories…

    1. The Marker reporter did not recognize that this unit was top secret (which it is). All he did was take the MK’s Knesset web page and copy the information listed there. My source was the one who made news by revealing the unit was top secret & engaged in assassinations.

      The lawyer in the Yediot article I summarized said numerous times that the unit was top secret and he also confirmed that some of its members are killers. BTW, when you noted that previous prime ministers were Sayeret Matkal members and that Sayeret Matkal engaged in assassinations, were you inferring that those PMs themselves engaged in assassinations during their IDF service? We know that Barak did. But do you have information on others? Because that would be news.

      All you have proven is that the name of the unit was mentioned once in the Israeli media outside the MK’s website. Mazel tov, Sherlock Holmes! There’s a Mossad research job waiting for you.

      You’ve also erred in charging me with getting the Zygier story wrong. When the story was Prisoner X I reported he was someone other than Ben Zygier. At that point, no one knew who Prisoner X was. Since the story was exposed I have reported as true nothing that was incorrect.

      1. “The Marker reporter did not recognize that this unit was top secret (which it is)” – WOA! TOP SECRET! HOW COOL. let’s not ruin the party by saying that almost every unit of Aman (IDF intelligence) is considered top secret.

        “My source was the one who made news by revealing the unit was top secret & engaged in assassinations.”
        If it’s your source that makes the news why do you Present it as if the former MK made them, while he did nothing but mentioning the name of that unit?

        1. @Amit: On the contrary, there are some Aman units that are well known, like Unit 504, which Uvdah profiled last year.

          Shama HaCohen’s website revealed the name & existence of the unit. Once my source saw this he exposed further information about its operational mission (foreign assassinations among other things).

  4. Carmel Shama is no longer an MK.
    He managed to get himself blacklisted by a powerful gang within the Likud which demoted him to a marginal position on the list. He ended up outside parliament, at least until any Likud MK dies, resigns or jailed for corruption…
    He’s intending to run for mayor of Ramat-Gan (part of greater Tel-Aviv), once its current mayor, Bar – a Likud veteran himself and former commander of the Border-Police – is, at long last, convicted in a bigtime local-government corruption trial.

    1. @Drew: I never connected the unit described in the article to which you linked to the unit in which Shama HaCohen served. You did. But these two units have nothing to do with each other. Shama HaCohen’s unit had nothing to do with staunching IDF leaks, which is what the unit you featured does.

      So the only “mix-up” is in your own head, I’m afraid. But nice try, Sherlock. Keep up the good work!

  5. It is a shame, a crying shame, that Israel and only Israel does such things with secret ops and that atleast you have the good sense to make this secret outfit known so that we can be aware of just how immoral Israel truly is.

    1. Many other vicious and criminal regimes do these sort of things it is true, but nobody does it with quite as much chutzpah and frequency and most commonly, in the name of others as Israel. Its history of assassinations and false flag terrorism is second to none and a matter of particular interest since it most often involves and is against nations who see themselves as allies or even “loyal servants” of Israel.

      Anyway it isn’t the point. This article is about a specific matter relating to Israel’s assassination and spying program and doesn’t need any qualifiers about other nations’ activities in the first place. The hasbara is not surprisingly, very thick on the ground as usual. pun most definitely intended.

      1. Again, saying Israel is the worst or that it’s second to none at assassinations is a distinction without a difference. U.S. crimes are more numerous and more damaging in the long run. That’s not to minimize Israel’s, but I find the need to measure or single out Israel as the world’s worst offender in various categories to be a meaningless undertaking.

  6. Some slogans:

    Zahal: Like “F Troop”, but in Hebrew.

    IDF: We try to live up to George Patton IV’s line “A damn fine bunch of killers.”

    IDF: What’s a secret?

    The IDF: A National Guard that thinks it’s an Army.

  7. The official response of the former MK, can be found on it’s page here:
    חבר הפנה את תשומת ליבי לחשיפה של הבלוגר המפורסם סילברסטין אודות שירותי הצבאי ויחידתי. אין ספק לאיש דמיון מפותח בכל מקרה פעם ראשונה שהיית חלק מחיסול היה בפריימריס האחרונים. צפו אך אל תאמינו לכל מילה.
    this is what he states: A friend brought to my attention the expose of the the famous blogger Silverstein concerning my military service. No doubt Silverstein has a vivid imagination. First time i was involved with assassination was during the last primaries. Watch but don’t believe all that said.

      1. Counter intelligence is usually being preformed in the targeted state, in this case Israel.
        This type of work requires different skill set then the type of work involved assassinations in foreign countries.
        the chances the same unit will deal with both do not exist.

        1. @EladR: If I have a choice between believing you or my source I choose my source. Even Shama hasn’t denied the unit engaged in assassinations. Counter-espionage activities can happen anywhere: inside a country or in a foreign country.

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          2. I’m sure the folks who serve at Kidon would be more then happy to learn that there is an Aman unit doing their Job as well. 🙂

        1. What’s especially petty & childish about this is that I’ve written blog posts about my reporting of these incidents explaining where there were errors & why. I’m not concealing anything. They write these imbecile comments as if they’re dredging up dark, embarrassing secrets.

          1. You may call this petty and childish but I think that any objective observer would agree that the credibility of your source is at the heart of the matter. As you wrote above, you choose to rely on your source on the subject of this AMAN unit. If your source is the key than anything that casts doubt on his/her credibility is certainly relevant and not “off topic” (deleting relevant posts that don’t tow the party line – pretty ironic on an anti-censorship website, don’t ya think?). I asked you if this is indeed the same source who you claim was duped in the Prisoner X affair. You have yet to answer. If it’s true then this is simply a case of bad journalism. An ethical journalist does not base an entire story on an unnamed source who has been proved to be so unreliable. If it’s not the same source then please let us know.

          2. @Zo-zo:

            You may call this petty and childish


            Get over yourself and stop telling me what constitutes “ethical journalism.” When you tell me in which journalism school you took your course in that subject or at which media publication you practice this vocation, then I’ll respect you. Till then, I don’t owe you or anyone an explanation.

            But I will say that my source has a variety of his own sources. While there have been some stories he got wrong, we’ve tried to isolate & avoid those who were sources for those reports.

            Prisoner X was four years ago. Stop dredging up old news. THis subject gets mighty old mighty fast. So this is last you or I are going to say about it in this thread. Capiche?

  8. From an “intelligence” site:
    Agaf ha-Modi’in Agaf ha-Modi’in (AMAN) “Secrecy”

    Aman produces comprehensive national intelligence estimates for the prime minister and cabinet, daily intelligence reports, risk of war estimates, target studies on nearby Arab countries, and communications intercepts. Aman also conducts across-border agent operations. Within Aman is the hugely respected and powerful Unit 8200 (technical/communications). In Eye Spy 60, the magazine carried a most informative feature on this technical intercept and communications organisation (below).

    2006-2010 – Maj. Gen. Amos Yadlin
    2010-present – Maj. Gen. Aviv Kochavi

  9. All this nonsense and Mr. Silverstein didn’t even realise that Unit 504 IS THE UNIT the MK mentioned. That is what happens when you pretend to have an insider’s view of Israel from a Seattle suburb. When Amit recommended that you do some very basic research you should have listened.

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