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  1. more grist-for -the-mill…

    ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi Reported Dead – for at Least the 7th Time in 12 Years
    by S.M. Gibson

    …The media and government has obviously created a cycle of kill-capture-injure of a single person all while the general public has never seen more than brief snippets of the apparently immortal boogeyman.

    The al-Baghdadi narrative makes Orwell’s 1984 look tame in comparison and, if history is any indicator, this is not the last time we’ve heard from al-Baghdadi.

    A timeline of the al-Baghdadi narrative:

    2004 – Al-Baghdadi was in U.S. custody
    2007 – Iraqi officials report the death of al-Baghdadi
    2007 – U.S. Major General William Caldwell said it was not known who al-Baghdadi was or if he even existed
    2007 – Brigadier-General Kevin Bergner told a news conference that al-Baghdadi did not exist at all
    2009 – Reuters reports that Iraqi forces had captured al-Baghdadi
    2010 – Al-Baghdadi is reported dead by Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki from an airstrike
    2012 – Al-Baghdadi is captured in Iraq
    2014 – Al-Baghdadi made his only alleged public appearance in Mosul in June
    2014 – Al-Baghdadi is reportedly killed by a U.S. airstrike in September
    2014 – Al-Baghdadi is ‘critically wounded‘ from air strikes near Mosul in November
    2015 – Al-Baghdadi is once again ‘seriously wounded‘ from a U.S. air strike near Nineveh
    2016 – Al-Baghdadi is reportedly killed again by coalition air strikes in Raqqa
    2017 – Al-Baghdadi is wounded from an airstrike and has to relinquish control of ISIS for five months
    2017 – Al-Baghdadi is killed yet again by Russian airstrikes in Syria
    2018 – Al-Baghdadi is ‘severely wounded‘ in an air raid
    2019 – Al-Baghdadi allegedly appears in a video released by an Islamic State media group
    2019 – Al-Baghdadi kills himself during U.S. raid
    The Russian military has dismissed Trump’s al-Baghdadi speech as propaganda, while Iran’s Minister of Information and Communications Technology, Mohammad-Javad Azari Jahromi, declared that the U.S. had simply destroyed its “own creature.”

  2. What do you suggest they should have done with Al Bagdadi?
    Give him a fair trial? Lock him in a cell and throw the key away? How do you call this a murder?
    You progressives have lost it a long tine ago.

    1. @ Sigal Yaakobovitz: You Israeli fascists lost it even longer ago.

      There is an international criminal court that is meant for exactly these sorts of cases. He should have been captured if possible and hauled before the ICC and convicted of genocide.

      As it was, he committed suicide. But clearly, if they murdered Bin Laden they were not about the let al Baghdadi live. He knew that. It’s why he blew himself up rather than take a bullet in the temple from a Delta Force ranger. When you force someone to commit suicide it’s still murder. Especially since you were going to kill him anyway if he didn’t kill himself first.

  3. You you suggest risking people life to capture him alive then spend millions on a trial and prison. Why? Don’t we have starving children? Why risk more people to maybe saving a terrorist life?

  4. As I said on the other side I respect people’s opinion and choice what to believe or not to believe but I want to be honest here, the story for example of Osama Bin Laden turned out to be false (there is a document that shows his nickname Tim Osman) and an article that says he had died of illness.
    I certainly don’t agree with the hasbara who deny everything despite there are articles that prove otherwise.
    The only thing I can say about this guy, I won’t believe his death until Trump shows proof and if he can’t it means this event never happened and it was all an excuse to withdraw an Israeli spy, the most disturbing thing about him is that he demonized Islam like radical Zionists do.

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