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  1. Richard. I have a question I’d like to ask you about the ‘two-State solution’. I’d like to know how many Palestinians you’ve spoken to about the ‘two-State solution’, and what were the opinions they held about ‘two-States’?

    1. @ Seamus: Your question doesn’t really interest me very much personally. But I just read a poll that 44% of Palestinians support a two state solution. I find this amazing considering how humiliating & oppressive Israel’s ongoing Occupation is. But it does attest to the flexibility & pragmatism of Palestinians in the face of Israeli rejectionism.

      1. The Palestinians are not doing Israel a favor by accepting a two state solution (nor does Israel does them a favor by accepting it). As much as they may detest Israel, that’s their most realistic option for self determination. If anything, I am surprised that that poll suggests that the majority of them oppose the idea. In the foreseeable future its either that or continuation of the existing situation. Anything else is an illusion.

        1. @ Amico:

          I am surprised that that poll suggests that the majority of them oppose the idea.

          It doesn’t say that at all. In fact, if 44% favor 2 states it doesn’t mean 56% support one state. Have you forgotten about undecideds or those favoring the status quo (oddly there may be a few such)?

          1. I stand corrected
            My view was indeed too simplistic.

            In addition to those you mentioned, BTW, there are some (I have no idea about their number but I recently heard few of them talking about it recently) that support the idea of annexation by Israel. Their argument was that they lost fate in the two state solution and believe its better to be full Israeli citizens (like the Palestinians within the green line borders) than continuing with their current situation. This is not really a “one-state” scenario but if that will ever happen (and with the current political situation in Israel-it may) that scenario will be realized unless Israel will not give them the right to vote and thus becomes an apartheid state.

          2. @ Amico: I disagree. If Israel annexes the West Bank and offers Palestinians there full citizenship, then this IS a one state solution. The problem is that eventually Palestinians will become the majority and enjoy commensurate political power. That is something the “Jewish state” cannot permit.

            But I do agree with most of the rest of what you said. The other option is annexation w/o offering rights. That IS apartheid. That’s the way things are headed. But the Likud will try to maintain the status quo as long as possible so it doesn’t have to make such a decision.

  2. On your twitter, the title of this post come “FBI Arrests White Supremacist Planning Synagogue Attack After Trump Bristles at Anti-Semitism Question” with the first picture of the Haredi guy and the White House.
    It just seems very wrong.

    1. Amico “thus becomes an apartheid state”
      RS “But I do agree with most of the rest of what you said. The other option is annexation w/o offering rights. That IS apartheid”
      So what you have been claiming with others in the world that Israel is now an apartheid state comes out that you are contradicting yourselves or probably perverting the real situation.

      1. @Sheker [inside joke: he calls himself “emeth” or “truth” & I call him “Sheker” or “Lie”]: Of course Israel is a de facto apartheid state. But if it annexed the Territories & denied citizenship/equal rights it would be a de jure apartheid state. Go look up the difference.

  3. I think Trump knew the implications of what he said about the two state solution. Many of his Zionists supporters strongly oppose the two state solution and he was giving them something they wanted. I think this is a positive development. We can now discard the two state fantasy that was used for the last two decades by right wing Israelis to cover up their theft of the West Bank. The whole process was one big scam and the sucker in this grift was the American people. Trump has now removed the big lie in this game. This a positive development since it will give impetus to BDS — no longer will it be necessary to argue incessantly about the “peace process” when trying to convince American progressives who in their heart support justice for the Palestinians.

    1. Hi ‘Seamus’, I stopped reading here : “Most progressives in the US view Israel as an aggressor, oppressing the poor noble Arabs who are being so brutally denied their freedom.”
      Someone who begins an article with such a dumb caricature, is either an idiot himself or is trying to treat his readers as idiots.

    2. @ Harry: You have a lot of fucking nerve threatening my life (I translated his earlier threat in a post but never approved it as a comment since I don’t publish death threats) and then posting this comment. Asshole. Banned.

  4. Richard deletes a link to an article written by a journalist and Elizabeth stops reading the article after reading one line.

    So much for a free and open exchange of ideas.

    1. @Seamus Ignoramus: You comment here, you follow the same rules everyone else does. If you object to the rules no one says you have to follow them or comment here at all.

      You’re not looking for a “free & open exchange of ideas.” You’re looking for a venue to expound yr hasbara.

      Nor does Elisabeth owe you any level of attentiveness when yr hasbara is so full of Arabophobic nonsense.

    2. Seamus, it seems you lack the ability to recognize biased and dumb prose. That is too bad for you, but cannot be helped. Just refrain from pushing such substandard drivel to others, would you?

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