24 thoughts on “Israel Violated Ceasefire Talks, Spied on Meshal, and Targeted Deif for Assassination – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. You ought to read Mr Forbes’ latest editorial in his latest magazine.
    The rant of a likudnik paid by casino owner. Makes zero sense absolutely nuts. He may be rich but above the shoulders it’s lonely very lonely. Perhaps sad to see how low the mighty have fallen

  2. ” Let’s look at the record: Israel ransacked the West Bank thus provoking the initial missile barrage. ”

    No. Hamas admits to having been behind the kidnap/murders of the three boys, which prompted the West Bank arrests.
    You might add the Hamas plans for a West Bank coup and third intifada into the mix as another reason for the arrests.


    1. @ Black Canary: More hasbara. “Hamas” has not admitted anything. Go back and read what Meshal actually said & not what the Israeli hasbarist media regurgitates to you.

      The other bubbeh meiseh about the 3rd intifada and West Bank coup is a concoction of some overeager Shabak interrogators or possibly the PMO seeking to gin up hysteria against Hamas. These secret police claim al-Aruri was the mastermind of this conspiracy. A guy who’s in exile in Turkey. A guy who may’ve just said Hamas was responsible for the kidnappings, then took it back almost in the same breath. He’s a credible source.

      If I believed every half-baked idea or claim Israeli cabinet ministers spewed I’d think Israel was even more guilty of war crimes than it otherwise is. I know enough to disregard the nonsense they spew & don’t confuse the idiotic ramblings of a political wannabe with official state policy. Yet you don’t have the savvy or intelligence to do that when it comes to Hamas. You want to hate so you pick & choose among the detritus and contrive a satisfying but flagrantly false reality.

      Hasbarists “hear what they want to hear & disregard the rest.” Pitiful. Your next overstatement or lie will earn moderation.

      1. I believe simon and garfunkle said this quote about all men not hasbarists, and that’s what you have done with Mashal’s speech.
        3-5 people can’t pull off what they did:you need a car supplier, gun supplier, body burier, hider of the perpetrators, financers, escape route helpers, etc.
        fortunately spontaneous murders rarely happen (like the bulldozer murders) but rather are meticulously planned by large organizations.

        1. @ Shmuel: Of course it was S&G I was paraphrasing & most Americans would know that & I’ve quoted the original wording several times before here with attribution. So I wasn’t trying to slip anything by ya. Don’t worry.

          Even if 20, 30 or 50 co conspirators enabled the terror attack, it wasn’t an official Hamas operation. It was a rogue operation. Even Israeli intelligence believes this & has said so in the media. I’m not saying it was spontaneous. But it certainly was nothing like official Hamas operations which are much more meticulously executed.

          1. You haven’t a leg to stand on. If it was a rogue operation why didn’t Hamas immediately hand the kidnappers over to the police investigation when they found out about it? They supported it once they knew about it. That makes it an official Hamas operation. No question. I think you are hearing what you want to hear and disregarding the truth.

          2. @ Slevdi: Really? So when renegade Hamas militants committ a crime then Hamas should just go to the Israeli (or even Fatah) police and hand those militants over? Do you know any militant group in history that’s ever done anything like this? In fact, the term moser came as a despicable curse levelled by Jews at any Jew who reported another Jew to the secular authorities in Russia, Poland, etc. So if we Jews hate such people, then Hamas should ignore that & just “do the right thing” as YOU define it?

            The only thing that’s official here is that you’re a hasbarist.

  3. Well when rhe u.s army decided to kill it wanted terrorist ,they get the o.k by the govtment if the bomb meant for the wanted guy will kill up to 40 people ,so in israel case 12 people died is like what the u.s would of done if they had thi kind of situation and they did it vety often in iraq and afhanitan and you are saying that the u.s should watch israel ???? You are funny

  4. “Let’s look at the record: Israel ransacked the West Bank …”
    How could you so blatantly omit the kidnapping and murder of the three Israeli children? Is this what your journalism has become?

    1. @ Shmuel: So you’re claiming that the kidnapping & murder of the 3 youths justified massive government sponsored pogroms in the W Bank leading to the killing of 7 Palestinians, ransacking of thousands of homes & arrest of 500 Palestinians, almost all of whom had nothing to do with the crime?

      As for the killings, at most 3-5 people were involved in that. As for the West Bank pogroms, an entire nation sponsored that. Which is worse?

      1. It’s not a question what is worse, but rather why you chose to start the present conflict on the time line of the WB arrests rather than the fact of the murder of the three jewish boys. The time line you chose is false and deceiving even if you feel Israel’s response to be too severe

        1. Shmuel, you’re absolutely right. There have been so many Palestinians murdered in the West Bank it’s difficult to pick a starting point. Richard could have started with the half dozen or so Palestinians murdered in the days before the 3 settler boys went missing. Two of them were teenagers posing no threat to IDF; yet they were executed in cold blood by Israel. Let me know if you missed it and I’ll post the videotapes of the murders.

        2. @ Shmuel: So you believe that the killing of 3 Jewish boys justifies the murder of 7 Palestinians, the arrest of 500 Palestinians most of whom had nothing to do with the crime, & the ransacking of thousands of private homes by 10,000 IDF troops. You think all of this was done solely to solve the crime? If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.

          Of course the murders of the boys was a heinous crime that deserved to be solved. But collective publishment is not criminology. It’s vengeance pure & simply. And if you take vengeance on Palestinians they’re going to take vengeance on you. That’s what the rockets were. And if you continue the war more Israelis will die (I only refer to Israelis since I realize the deaths of Palestinians are purely a secondary matter to you).

    1. @ Shmuel: False. Meshal said that the killers had some unspecified affiliation with Hamas, but that neither he nor any other leader knew about the operation till after it happened. “Hamas” did not know about, nor was it responsible for the kidnapping & murders. As has been reported right from the beginning, renegade Hamasniks took the law in their own hands & engaged in an act of terror.

      History is full of incidents in which individuals or small groups acted on their own, sometimes w/o the knowledge of others with whom they’re affiliated, and upset the course of history. The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand is but one example.

      YOu’re the fourth commenter making this false claim. The next commenter who says Hamas admitted responsibility for the kidnapping will be moderated.

        1. @Daniel: I’ve already rebutted this 4 separate times in the threads here. & told the next person who published this claim lacking in credibility, they’d be moderated. Mazel tov, it’s yr lucky day. Instead of being reality-free, we’ll be hasbara-free or at least Daniel-free.

          Some guy claiming to be a Hamas leader exiled in Turkey makes a claim (whose video quality is almost indecipherable) that Hamas was responsible (being in Turkey how would he know?), then almost in the same breath corrects himself & says the opposite. That’s highly credible as you are.

  5. Thank you for this report, Richard.
    I couldn’t help wondering, how the tracing of phone calls by Israel wouldn’t have been a major concern, and how this could have happened, considering the stringent security measures needed and taken by Hamas.
    It is unfathomable, to me, unless there were other ‘forces’ operating, at the time.
    I had no doubt Israel was planning an escalation during these so-called ‘ceasefire negotiations’, and I am not alone in that.
    This, was an opportunistic exploitive action, once more. There is no end, apparently, to the deception and contrivances, designed by IDF and it’s manipulation of events on the ground and it’s intentions.
    I see no change in this and the atrocities continue.
    I have read about Netanyahu ‘outraged’ at the possibility facing ICC charges, and his blame charade.
    I have seen reports of Netanyahu – perhaps, with the help, again, of financial/military backer, the U.S. – escaping accountability ..
    I hope this will not be the case.

  6. [comment deleted: I do so love it when hasbarists attempt wit & it falls as flat as a day-old open soda can. For that feeble, stupid, offensive attempt at wit, you’re moderated.]

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