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  1. RE: “Israel-Palestine Peace Talks: Road to Nowhere” ~ R.S.


    . . . We’re on a ride to nowhere
    Come on inside
    Takin’ that ride to nowhere
    We’ll take that ride

    Maybe you wonder where you are
    I don’t care
    Here is where time is on our side*

    Take you there, take you there

    We’re on a road to nowhere
    We’re on a road to nowhere
    We’re on a road to nowhere . . . ~ from the 1985 album “Little Creatures”

    Talking Heads: “Road To Nowhere” [VIDEO, 04:04] – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWtCittJyr0

    * P.S. FROM ALISTAIR CROOKE, London Review of Books, 03/03/11:

    [EXCERPT] . . . Israel’s vice-premier, Moshe Ya’alon, was candid when asked in an interview this year: ‘Why all these games of make-believe negotiations?’ He replied:

    Because … there are pressures. Peace Now from within, and other elements from without. So you have to manoeuvre … what we have to do is manoeuvre with the American administration and the European establishment, which are nourished by Israeli elements [and] which create the illusion that an agreement can be reached … I say that time works for those who make use of it. The founders of Zionism knew … and we in the government know how to make use of time.

    SOURCE – http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n05/alastair-crooke/permanent-temporariness

  2. RE: “But Bibi had to open his big mouth in order to show his ultra-right constituency, which was livid at freeing ‘terrorists’, that he’d gotten something substantive in exchange. This is the Big Guy to a tee. He doesn’t give a crap about how this will play for a Palestinian public.” ~ R.S.

    MY COMMENT: My question is, couldn’t Netanyahu have convinced his ultra-right constituency that he’d gotten something substantive in exchange for the prisoner release without having done it so publicly?
    I suspect that Netanyahu did it very publicly because he very much cared how this would play for the Palestinian public. I believe that one of Netanyahu’s main goals was to HUMILIATE, undermine and weaken Abbas by very publicly implying that Abbas had agreed to this settlement construction as a quid pro quo for the release of the prisoners. Netanyahu would love to so humiliate Abbas that Abbas and the Palestinian negotiators would have no choice but to storm out of the negotiations to “save face” with the Palestinian public. In that event, Israel (with the help of the compliant U.S. mainstream media) would once again gleefully blame the Palestinians for yet another failure of the “peace process”.

  3. Bibi, a bad faith negotiator? No… I – AM – SHOCKED. In his head, Kol Nidrei night is 365 days a year. There are a different set of rules for the superior Chosen ones according to the far right. Why bother with good faith against subhumans? Iran has no inalienable right as mandated by internationally accepted treaty, and Israel gets to use it as a sword despite never signing it (and violating every aspect of their own complaint against Iran). The Israeli lobby doesn’t have to register as an agent of a foreign government despite swarming Congressional halls like locusts to start an illegal Syrian war against American interests and only to the benefit of expansionist Israel. The list goes on. Everyone in the world notices this, and the writing on the wall reads that this causes a natural hatred against this faction who exempts themselves from rules and laws. Except, this faction of the far right then spins this natural resentment towards specific malfeasance wrongly against a larger demographic of Judaism, which they inaccurately claim to represent as a whole. My whole guess is that by surging anti-Senitism, the far right eventually hopes to strategically fill the larger land area between the Euphrates and Tigris they have openly claimed well ahead of time.

    Btw, just like sausage also, you never know what’s in it!

  4. ]These “talks” were never meant to lead anyone anywhere, just to pass (win? waste? who cares?) time.

    The Israelis’ game is to continue embedding even more colonist population in the occupied territories, thus making the prospect of compromise-based solution even less likely, while engaging the Palestinian leadership in collabourational enforcement paid by American money.

    The Palestinian leadership’s game is to keep living the relatively good life in Ramallah while lamely trying to soften the ever-intensifying blows continuously inflicted on the vital interests of their hapless people.

    The European governments’ game is to maintain a semblance of a “peace process” going on, in order to placate the growing impatience of their constituents with this moral ticking bomb on their doorstep.

    The American administration’s game is to maintain the remnants of international goodwill they might still have while minimising confrontations with a potent foreign-interests lobby which seems to own the Congress and nurture fearful respect by most MSM.

    As for the Palestinian people — individuals and their collective community alike — they are too busy to play games, trying to eke a living and support their families while their land is being literally robbed from under their feet.

  5. I don’t believe that anyone had any hopes for thee talks in the first place. The pressures were to hold talks, not to conclude peace. Not even to conclude a disastrous (for Palestine) peace.

    Forget the settlements. they would happen whether or not. The prisoners (or others in their stea) can be (re-) arrested.

    What interests me is the likelihood that Abbas will NOT press forward toward Palestinian membership in ICC and other organizations. Palestine needs international support. It has NO OTHER hope, thin as that one is proving to be. Even turkey (I read recently) blames Abbas as part of an axis-of-evil that includes Saudi Arabia. (Turkey is reported to be buying Chinese weapons, snubbing NATO and USA.)

  6. Abbas and his entire crew are Quislings, pure and simple. He has no mandate to negotiate at all, never mind cede chunks of Palestine. His term has long expired and he rules by virtue of his people’s enemies. He helped block the Goldstone report, supported Israel’s attack on Gaza, and has refused to go to the ICC. Israel’s End game has always been more ethnic cleansing, which was always intrinsic to the entire Zionist enterprise. When a tiny minority- 5% at the turn of the 20th century – aspires to rule the roost, the available means of becoming a majority are rather limited. Ethnic cleansing and dispossession is part of Zionism ‘s DNA. As for peace talks, all you need to know is that US and UK threatened the PLA with retaliation if they took Legal action at the UN. How is it possible to threaten a victim if they attempt legal redress and still retain a shred of credibility and still bleat about human rights and the peaceful settling of disputes. It’s not, at least in the rational world.

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