8 thoughts on “In Contentious Meeting, Abbas Tells Shin Bet Chief: “You and I Can Both Sit Together in a Cell in the Hague!” – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. “…Israel objects to Hamas as a terrorist group..”.

    Lets not mention Irgun and its affiliates.

      1. And your point is? Irgun, the Stern Gang, Haganah were all terrorist groups a short 72 years ago. And they decimated Palestine through terrorism. In fact, Israel was founded on terrorism, so I’d suggest you think carefully about who you support.

      2. Go all the way back to Cain and Abel, Avram..or even just as far as the Mosaic law of thou shalt not kill.
        How Jewish would that make your IDF? Hardly kosher.

  2. Abbas: “I decide whether there will be elections and no one else.

    Sclerotic and autocratic.

    The Palestinian people deserve better.

  3. RE: “Abbas: You’re telling me this? Who built up Hamas?”
    SEE: “How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas” | By Andrew Higgins | The Wall Street Journal | Jan 24, 2009
    [EXCERPTS] Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago.
    “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.
    Instead of trying to curb Gaza’s Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat’s Fatah. . .
    . . . When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and ’80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel. The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya, registering the group as a charity. It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools. Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.
    “When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,” says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early ’90s as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military. “But at the time nobody thought about the possible results.” . . .
    ENTIRE ARTICLE – https://web.archive.org/web/20090208223439/http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

    1. I believe they did think of the results.
      A religious injection to derail the secular politics of the PLO.
      Results? Palestinians, as per program, divided and ruled….out.

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