55 thoughts on “Seattle’s Israel Lobby Falls Prey to Anti-BDS Hysteria – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. BDS does not want the State of Israel to exist. Period.
    Therefore, BDS is more a threat to the Jews of France, who are now making aliyah in record numbers. The religious Jews of France are coming to Israel ‘because they cannot live as Jews’ in France.
    Eventually, non-religious French Jews will become the targets in France, and they will have to make aliyah too.

    1. Jackdaw, your incoherent brain fart claims on the one hand that BDS causes French Jews to immigrate yet at the same time you are implying that it’s a good thing because even non-religious French Jews will immigrate to Israel. Does that mean you support BDS? I have read many retarded comments by Zionists but yours seem to top them all.

    2. @ Jackdaw: Another comment rule: do NOT publish opinions that aren’t supported by evidence. You’ve made an absolutely false claim about BDS. Either you will provide credible support for this claim within 24 hours or you will withdraw it. Here. If you do not provide credible proof or withdraw the claim, you will be banned.

      BDS is more a threat to the Jews of France, who are now making aliyah in record numbers.

      Not only is this a non sequitur since there is no connection between BDS and the Jews of France, this is grossly OFF-TOPIC. Also the claim about aliyah in “record numbers” is misleading. There is an uptick in aliyah from France. The increase is incremental & not as dramatic as you attempt to make it out to be.

      Eventually, non-religious French Jews will become the targets in France, and they will have to make aliyah too.

      This is nothing but a steeping heap of bullshit served up as pro-Israel propaganda. I find you offensive. I don’t mind disagreements, but when arguments lose track of reality and travel into hasbara-bizarro-world, the whole enterprise becomes puerile.

    1. See Finkelstein’s dissection of “My Promised Land” entitled something about “same wine, different bottles”…?

  2. Errata:Please note that the Iran event referenced took place at Town Hall, not Temple De Hirsch Sinai

  3. I thought that it was perhaps this incident that took place in France in 2004 that inspired the story:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3891609.stm
    I remember how Muslim-hater Sylvain Ephimenco was all over it for days in the newspaper Trouw, and when it turned out the girl had made the story up, he never apologised for all he had written.

  4. @Richard I do not confuse “Jew” and “Israeli” at all. Israel created a citizenship to ape democratic values — i.e. government exists to serve the people of the geographic state, once those people were largely Jewish. But then Israel goes a step further and creates a “nationality” that exists outside the state’s borders and this nationality is “Jewish.” With the “Law of the Return”, the state was not simply an administrative utility for its citizens but a super entity created and served by “nationals” located anywhere. I do not confuse the two (Israeli and Jew) by conflating them for the purpose of making a point about Zionist enterprise.

    1. @ Davey: You conflate Jews, Judaism, Israel & Zionism regularly. Just because classical Zionists conflate Israel with Judaism does not mean you may assume that their doing so entitles you to do so. It doesn’t. Yet you do it regularly. If you feel you do not, then either you don’t read carefully or are confused.

      1. I conflate Jewish and Israeli as per the actual framework in place in Israel, in order to to demonstrate the contradiction of pursuing a Jewish “nationality” in a “democratic” state. I attempt to show that :Jewish” is not a nationality like “French” for example. Now you say I’m not “entitled” to adopt this conflation for rhetorical purposes.

        It is perfectly plausible that some Jews felt relatively comfortable and safe in the ghettos but I cannot say so short of advanced academic work. I’d even go so far as to suggest that ghettos were neither good nor bad, but were an adaptation of the times. So I am not entitled and not credentialed and also borderline “anti-semitic,” the sum of the responses to my comments.

        But, I am not careless or stupid and it is beneath you (Richard) to avail yourself of such insults especially as I have never taken such a tact with anyone here, including yourself.

        1. It is perfectly plausible that some Jews felt relatively comfortable and safe in the ghettos but I cannot say so

          No, it isn’t plausible at all. It’s flies in the face of historical evidence and common sense. This idiotic statement is equivalent to Israelis arguing that Gazans have never had it so good under Israeli siege. This is a careless & stupid statement and that’s being charitable.

          You’re done in this thread. No more responses. You’re welcome to join other threads but I strongly urge you to avoid the gross generalizations and ahistorical claims you’ve made here.

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