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  1. RE: As the old UJA slogan used to say: “We are One.”
    MY COMMENT: Right, the “violent parent” and its enabler!
    SEE: Avraham Burg: Israel’s new prophet ~ By Donald Macintyre, The Independent, 1 November 2008
    Avraham Burg was a pillar of the Israeli establishment but his new book is causing a sensation. It argues that Israel is an “abused child” which has become a “violent parent”. And his solutions are radical, as he explains to Donald Macintyre.
    LINK – http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/avraham-burg-israels-new-prophet-979732.html

    RE: “The reality is that Iran’s acquisition of nuclear weapons is seen as a threat for reasons partly of Israel’s own making – foremost its absolute reliance on a policy of military supremacy and deterrence to underpin security.” ~ The Guardian
    MY COMMENT: Yes, Iran’s acquisition of nuclear weapons would partially rupture Israel’s “iron wall” (as advocated by Jabotinsky in 1923). And reliance upon the “iron wall” by its very nature (being the neighborhood bully) means that Israel has not developed much (if any) of an alternative approach to maintaining its security.

    1. If Israel is, ‘ “an abused child” who has become a “violent parent”, than what’s to become of the Palestinians when they ‘grow up’?

      1. MY REPLY: So you accept that Avraham Burg, former Speaker of the Israeli Knesset, is correct in comparing Israel to a “violent parent”?

        P.S. Why is it that “Proud Zionists” are so reluctant to intelligently rebut criticism of Israel, but instead resort to immature, childish tactics like changing the subject?

        P.P.S. SEE: Sinning against Zionism: Traitor to Country, by William A. Cook , Dissident Voice, 4/21/11

        Hell is where many false commitments must be unlearned. — Ricardo J. Quinones, Dante Alighieri

        (excerpt) Richard Goldstone’s journey from Justice to Sinner represents the spiritual act of dying in the Zionist world. By recanting his own report he has attempted to break the bonds that cast him into the sufferings in Caina, Antenora, and Judecca where, in Dante’s Inferno, those treacherous to their own, are removed from the light and warmth of their kin, their country, and their masters and suffer eternal damnation in the remorseless dead center of the ice in the most bottomless circle of Hell.
        Fortunately, Goldstone like Dante can learn that he has, in his journey, aligned himself with many false gods and many false attachments ignoring on the way the elementary truths that bind humankind ineluctably in one race in a bond of human grace.
        The Zionist world needs no Hell since it heeds no conscience. It exists on one foundation, a solid block of ice that freezes the soul of all who bear allegiance to its creed of absolute obedience, an ancient form of tribal slavery bound by fear that shackles the soul, by isolation that instills despair, by humiliation that corrodes self, and by victimhood that bonds the tribe in self-perpetuating agony. It is in this sense Medieval, a remnant of the inquisitorial mind that harbored no dissent, gave no credence to personal freedom, and obligated all to one monolithic understanding of commitment to the powers that control…

        ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/04/sinning-against-zionism-traitor-to-country/

    2. P.S. ALSO SEE: Moshe Dayan’s Widow Ruth: Zionist Dream Has Run Its Course ~ Newsweek/DailyBeast, 11/30/11

      (excerpts)…“I’m a peacemaker, but the current Israeli government does not know how to make peace. We move from war to war, and this will never stop. I think Zionism has run its course.”…
      …“Today we use foreign labor to work in Israel because Palestinians are not allowed. And this continuous expansion of the settlements everywhere-—I cannot accept it. I cannot tolerate this deterioration in the territories and the roadblocks everywhere. And that horrible wall! It’s not right.”…

      SOURCE – http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/10/30/moshe-dayan-s-widow-ruth-zionist-dream-has-run-its-course.html

  2. RE: “This clearly isn’t the behavior of an ally. More the behavior of a military power deciding to go out on its own.” ~ R.S.

    MY COMMENT: Not to fear, I’m certain Dennis “Israel’s Lawyer” Ross has everything under control!

  3. Even if Iran had nukes that is not a casus belli. In that case, Iran have a right to strike Israeli Dimona reactor etc.
    Iran wouldnt use it nukes, its for detterence israel however thought of using their nukes atleast to times in the 60s and 70s. Still we getting fed with the “iranian threat”.

    As soon as israeli leaders are pressured to stop settlement, accept peace they always start to point fingers at Iran. Now its on again. And dont belive for a second that US wont approve israeli strike. If US are so concerned about Israel start a new war in the region, well why dont US stop them? Obviously the concern is zero in america, they approve israeli strikes. If it wasnt for US acceptance Israel would never start a new war. They always need american green light.

    Regarding photos. Thats no evidence to begin with, and note that in the israeli media they are talking about a suspicious “truck”. Oh where have I heard the fairytale about the mobile truck? Oh yes Iraq.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_weapons_laboratory

    Iraqi nuclear weapons, Niger letters, The laptop containing all information about nuclear weapons http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21994

    or why not bring up when US urged to build nuclear weapons.

    CIA Doesn’t Want You To Know It Gave Iran Nuclear Blueprints

    http://www.emptywheel.net/2011/01/06/cia-doesnt-want-you-to-know-it-gave-iran-nuclear-blueprints/

    Enough of this warmongering israeli madness.

    1. Yes — I remember a van or trailer in which biologic weapons were being concocted…somehow the trailer was a giveaway for biologic weaponization. Go figure.

  4. Fox News is reporting that the Israeli ministers who had opposed the strike are now in favor:

    “Sources close to senior Israeli cabinet officials told Fox News that senior ministers who used to oppose a strike are now for it.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/05/us-keeps-focus-on-sanctions-for-iran-amid-speculation-over-israeli-strike/

    I’m not seeing any follow-up on this so don’t know how plausible or believable this story is but FWIW.

      1. To be fair, John says he doesn’t know how believable it is.

        However, if Fox News is saying it, we can be sure that Kevin Rupert Murdoch, aka “The Dirty Digger” wants us to believe it.

        My own impression is that Obama himself doesn’t like being led by the nose at all, let alone being led by the nose to a potential nuclear war. However, some of the leading by the nose is being done by people either actually in his administration, or in powerful positions in the Democratic Party and it’s difficult for him to kick against the traces.

        The Werrity affair has removed the only cheerleader for Israeli action from the UK government, though Cameron is a compulsive appeaser and is probably only dithering over which side he appeases, other than Merkel and Sarkozy, of course.

        Perhaps Cameron, and indeed Obama, could have their thinking crystalized by asking The Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, what the financial consequences of a war with Iran might be.

        We’re in a position where the financial and economic reaction to a conflict really could do more harm than even a limited nuclear exchange. Damage the world economy any further, and hundreds of thousands will die in consequence. Perhaps rather more than hundreds of thousands: the economy is now the life support of seven billion souls and its not in good shape.

  5. This is smoke screen. There is no way the US wouldn’t know about an Israeli attack, and if there is one, you can surely bet that certain actors in the US government pushed it forward and had it sanctioned. The very opposite effect will result from such a mistake. Iran is not a national security threat to America whatsoever. Another unjustified invasion, this time, of a country with a solid defense doctrine, war-tested, 4x the size of Iraq (UK, Germany, France and Spain combined!) with 100 million strong plus a large and influential diaspora population, with all kinds of terrain – nearly every kind you can imagine, and a continuous civilization and culture spanning millennium, even at one time saving Judaism entirely.

    Makes sense… if you are purposely committing national suicide (taking the US down from within). I turn a suspicious eye to ALL the war mongers. It smells of treason.

  6. the idea of Israel ‘going rogue’ was not something I thought could be possible — way too big and a pre-emptive offensive operation; so it made sense that Netanyahu and Barak were only doing a war dance as a threat since otherwise the US would be moving naval and other military assets to striking distance for support.

    so if there is a rogue operation planned, it must be the case that it is intended as an independent operation, at least at the outset. Maybe Netanyahu and Barak are real sure one strike will rap-up the whole neutering Iran of nuclear facilities.

  7. If Israel “goes its own way” then surely the US Congress will want to encumber further payments to Israel for this high-handedness. Unquestionably, the US will hold up $3 billion in military aid and further UN support to teach Bibi and the handful of warmongers in Israel and AIPAC a lesson they won’t soon forget, a lesson about who is the puppet and who the puppeter. Surely, this is right, is it not?

    I am being facetious, in case someone doesn’t get it.

    1. RE: “I am being facetious, in case someone doesn’t get it.” ~ David

      MY REPLY: I was fairly certain of that. The only other possibilities were that you had just arrived here on Earth from some distant galaxy, or that you were stark, raving mad. And since your comment was coherent, AND IT WAS NOT IN ALL CAPS, I eliminated the possibility that you were a lunatic.
      But, thanks for confirming that you are not a recent arrival from some distant galaxy. Rumors get started so easily these days.

      P.S. Stark, raving mad – http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/stark-raving-mad.html

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