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    1. @ Bertrand: You’re comparing apples to oranges. Netanyahu actually made and aired a commerical for a GOP presidential candidate. An NGO which actually had no connection to Obama other than a few of its executives working at one time on an Obama campaign is not a “US adminmistration interfering in Israeli elections.”

      You see, if you falsely construe articles like this one, I will call you out. Make sure whatever you offer to support your claims actually reflects them. If they don’t, you will look foolish.

      So no, my claim is not “erroneous.” But yours is.

      1. It is not my claim, but the claim of WaPo Opinion Columnist, Jennifer Rubin, who said, and I quote, “While the administration has shown exceptional deference to “moderates” in Iran his [Obama’s] administration couldn’t be bothered to avoid gross interference with the elections in the only democratic country in the region.”

        ‘Avoid gross interference’.

        Richard said:

         An NGO which actually had no connection to Obama other than a few of its executives working at one time on an Obama campaign is not a “US adminmistration(sic) interfering in Israeli elections.”

        Actually, Obama’s State Department allowed OneVoice to deploy its United States taxpayer-funded campaign resources to launch, “the largest anti-Netanyahu grassroots organizing campaign in Israel in 2015”.

        That sounds like ‘gross interference’ to me.

        1. @Bertrand: Jennifer Rubin is a neo con and daughter of Elliot Abrams a neocon anti Iran war hawk. She the most right wing of all Washington Post columnists and has a deep pro Israel bias. She is a Likudist an anti Obama. Nothing she writes is credible.

          I’ll have to check every source you use from now on. And you must provide links so I can do that.

          You may post one comment per comment thread from now on.In that comment be sure to include any links to any sources you include.

  1. Richard,
    Three points:
    Netanyahu never sat in Ben Gvir’s apartment. The negotiations were in Netanyahu’s home in Cesaria.
    2. Goldstein was an MD, not a dentist.
    3. You are well known to support democracy. As such, anyone democraticly elected in a public election, to a public office, is allowed to serve. Concerning the possibility that Ben Gvir will serve in the Israeli cabinet-it would seem that this is an internal Israeli issue. Do you not agree?
    Efrat Porat

    1. @ Efrat: there are pictures of Netanyahu seated with Ben Gvir & Smotrich with the Goldstein picture hanging on the wall behind them.

      Yes, you are correct about Goldstein being an MD.

      anyone democraticly elected in a public election, to a public office, is allowed to serve.

      Absolutely untrue. Every democracy has provisions which exclude elected officials from serving for a variety of offenses. Some are civil offenses, some criminal. Not to mention recalls which remove elected officials from office. Nor is Ben Gvir “elected” in the sense that other democracies elect people. VOters don’t vote specifically for Ben Gvir. They vote for a party or coalition. Not the same.

      It is true that I support democracy. But Israel is not a democracy. It is a corrupt theocratic ethncracy.

      As for Ben Gvir’s serving in a cabinet: definitely not just an ‘internal Israel issue.’ Nations have every right to determine their relations with other states. If they sanction those states for whatever reason, they may do that. The fact that it has a political or economic impact is not the responsibility of the sanctioning party.

  2. Ben Gvir is a gobshite. We know that already.

    But how many traitors and insurrectionists are still sitting in the United State Congress? Dozens, I’d venture to say, and most of them would keep their seats if there was an election today.

    Let’s not even consider comparing Bibi to Trump.
    Bibi, though a venal character, didn’t attempt a violent coup d’etat.

    1. @ Clancy: Bibi was in power for 15 years not 4. Nor did he need to mount a coup detat. The Likud has had total power (except for a short Interval) in Israel for 50 yrs.

      Very few Americans know what Ben Gvir is. And a significant minority of Israelis support him.

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