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  1. It is only natural for a professional hacker to hack for his own gain. In fact, wouldn’t it be borderline professional incompetence if the hackers didn’t hack the pay/grading system for their own gain? A trivial bump of one’s personnel scoring, and viola!

    Employers of hackers, civilian and military, should take into account that trivial internal hacking will probably be performed. Comes with job description. It’s about the same as expecting a secretary not to gossip and gather gossip intelligence at the kitchenette.

    1. @ lepxii: You can’t possibly be Israeli or you wouldn’t have written what you have. The IDF image in Israel is one of fairness and purity. No soldier who believes in this ethos would do what these officers have done. Of course reality is different than image. But these soldiers violated basic norms and trampled on the army’s image. For you to excuse this with the basic argument, “boys will be boys,” shows how little you understand the Israeli psyche.

      You are little more than a wannabe hasbarist.

      1. I am a cynical post-post-Zionist. I accept many of the post-Zionist claims, yet have come to realize that though some issues were glossed over due to Hasbara (internal first, but also externally… e.g. it was very socially convenient to say “they ran away”) that the decisions facing the Yishuv then and today required hard measures.

        As for the army – you’re stuck in the early 80’s. There is a great degree of cynicism regarding the Israeli army and particularly the keva component. This is far beyond a single cynic post-post-Zionist….. Mainstream Israeli media has been running skits on the fat keva army officers for the past…. 5-10 years. There is a wide perception that corruption, pay, and pensions (worth 1-2 Million USD at retirement at age 45, lifelong hightpay) are exaggerated.

        [on the slip side the millium and hova are sacrosanct]

        See eretz nihaderet (leading MSM skit show) –

        1. @ lepxii: Whatever a post-ZIonist is, you aren’t. You are a Zio-apologist through & through. Post-Zionists don’t defend the Yishuv and Nakba.

          As for the IDF, I understand there is great cynicism & have documented here in several reports. But the majority of average Israelis still hold the IDF is high regard and expect much more from it than the average Israeli institution.

      2. Israeli military prisons are full with drug dealer and other common criminals. Ethos has nothing to do with it.

        I thought you may consider him a HERO. He was stealing from the army itself which you probably consider a MITZVA.

      3. Hey, as an Israeli I want to comment on this
        Many of the Israeli soldiers and citizens stopped believing in the ethos you are talking about a long time ago. The fairness and purity of the IDF is something they tell us as a soldiers on basic training, they tell it to Taglit kids that are dying to do something cool and go to the IDF, or we hear it on Hasbara.
        When you see that the army is so rotten from the inside you stop believing this, The IDF is as corrups as any other israeli institution, and the humen matterial is just bad (and I’m not talking about the Israel-Palestine problem at all).
        Specificly the 8200 unit are definitely exspected to be more moral,
        What I was basically trying to say you are right, but only about a VERY few elite units in the IDF.

        (I hope my English was good enough, I wish I could say it in Hebrew :))

    2. Strange! Any society so technologically advanced that it can attack the outside world with leading-edge hackers, can also protect itself with “unhackable” systems. Commercial companies throughout the western world devote considerable effort to protecting their human resource systems from both internal and external attack with rigorous security protocols, the segregation of sensitive data from less sensitive and full audit trails.

      So how can this be? Perhaps Israel has believed its own myths about human perfectibility as personified in the IDF elite, and so simply doesn’t bother with elementary precautions, or perhaps short-termism and lack of strategic thinking are endemic in this dysfunctional state. This is a state whose politicians and diplomats repeat the same mistakes time after time, that lacks proper systems to review and learn from bureaucratic and military errors, that refuses to adopt transparency, that insists that when a policy has patently failed the failure was simply in the lack of determination and vigour that was applied, and which constantly disregards its own “rule of law (e.g. ignoring red traffic lights) and international law (e.g. simply assassinating inconvenient opponents). Such a state is bound to fail in so many respects.

    3. “It’s about the same as expecting a secretary not to gossip and gather gossip intelligence at the kitchenette.”

      Any other insulting cliche’s on offer?

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