11 thoughts on “Gaza War Day 16: Israel’s Defense Minister Ordered Use of Obsolete Armored Vehicle Leading to 7 Soldier Deaths – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. The US consul was requested to respond to the American deaths of those going like jihadists to Israel to help the Israeli military ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, advance Netanyahu’s re-election chances, and to make a energy resource play in northern Gaza. Two of them were reported killed in the line of duty.

    I’m sure after being queried, the State Department consulted its experts, who told the State Department that Israel’s operational abilities are laughable, that their claims of accuracy are absurd given the wanton 80-90% civilian casualty rate, and that, in addition to all of this, the cost-benefit rational by Israel’s leadership was self-serving, irrational and messianic (see the three reasons I listed above for this offensive).

    In an appropriate response to Israel’s heinous acts and conduct in these operations, which additionally set US strategic assets, interests and security also in jeopardy because the world views Israeli actions as only being executed with impunity because of the US, the State Department via the FAA ordered the airways to and from Tel Aviv closed. Even the Israelis know that Ben Gurion airport is safe from harm (those rockets can’t target it anyway — a lot of selective memory here).

    I think the best policy for Israel is to refrain from further operations here immediately and claim its objectives a success, and to really focus on the real and only existential threat to Israel, ISIS. It is also the recommendation of experts across the board, like on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, in the NY Times, Washington Post, and more, that ISIS be treated as the most dire threat in the region. Thus, Israel should be tasked to go after ISIS. With Israel’s terrorist hunting prowess, the special relationship we share, it’s a no-brainer. Right? 🙂

    If Israel cannot face ISIS head on, then it might as well tell everyone to pack their bags and go home. Because for years I’ve been listening to a campaign of lies about the “Iran nuclear threat hoax” from the same parties, and I’m worried that the fight Israel starts it will not be able to end. The only show of deterrence that is within potential for Israel is to face ISIS head on. Nothing else. Israel believes in fighting “terror”, right? 🙂

    1. I, for one, am excited at the prospect of Israel donating its very first troop to the “War on Terror” after 13 years. It was that long ago that Netanyahu proclaimed to Ha’aretz that “9/11 was good for Israel” because it created an American sentiment against Israel’s regional opponents. I think he would be in agreement that Israel is the front line for terrorism and this is a perfect fit.

      1. PersianAdvocate

        There has been one, tiny and short IDF combat action of less than a day in a HAMAS outwork in the suburb of Shejaiya, and the whole country is collapsing in an orgy of recrimination and finger pointing. To give just one example, a Nahum Barnea in Yedioth is claiming the battle (sick) of Shejaiya the “Bint Jbeil of Gaza.” Give me a break!

        I have to believe your postscript about Israel being the “…front line for terrorism and this is a perfect fit…” was made in jest, because your concern about Israel not being able to finish what it starts has been irrefutably demonstrated in the Shejaiya affair. Israel facing “…ISIS head on..?” They can’t even finish the job they started with HAMAS with every advantage in the book.

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  3. “Netanyahu finally speaks his mind”
    I cannot abide by the weak Kerry-Obama stance — Why offer Gaza money, a pittance to the $11 Million a day o Israel.
    Why does the US pay Israel for an army it uses to destroyed Gaza, then ‘offer’ $40 million something to ‘help” pay for Israel’s vile destruction ~ How back to front this is!! Pay to bomb, then pay for ‘humanitarian’ aid.
    US money will not undo, what has been done to Gaza and it’s people and the arrogance of the offer adds insult to injury.
    The humanitarian thing would have been to strike Israel with sanctions, and withdraw military aid.
    It looks to me like a bribe to “persuade” a ceasefire, disingenuous.
    Who would really benefit from such a maneuver?
    Who ever benefits – the Palestinians?

    Kerry and Obama are, shamelessly, refusing to take responsibility for America’s responsibility here. Calls for “restraint’, and statements of ‘concern’ are hollow and Netanyahu couldn’t care less. He is assured, apparently, from the US unending narrative of Israel’s right to defend itself spin, and outpouring of American taxpayers dollars.
    Has congress no shame?? and are they not supposed to represent Americans and American people’s interest over Netanyahu and ideologies that persecute, segregate and marginalize people.?

    Every minute that passes, a life is lost and scarred – torn, thanks to a brutal, authoritarian entity that America has refused to condone.
    Media is being used for propaganda, and Americans are in the dark, as ever, as the powers that be manipulate the facts.

  4. When M-113’s were used in Vietnam, soldiers rode on top of them and not within because they would rather take their chances being sniped then dealing with aluminum shards (“spall”) if the vehicle was hit by a rocket grenade or heavy ammunition. But let’s not forget that the IDF was still using WWII-surplus M3 half-tracks in the 1970s as scout cars, so sending soldiers to their deaths in substandard vehicles has precedence.

  5. I’m sure you’ve all seen it before, but just in case you haven’t there’s a wonderful video from 2012 by Nina Paley that’s good for a laugh at (grimly) at ancient & modern history’s occupants and conquerors that have marched through the Middle East, and specifically the Levant to claim it as theirs…and whose land it may REALLY be if we fail to summon up our diplomatic, cooperative and tolerant natures to the occasion:


  6. I know that mechanization is seen as the epitome of modern warfare, but I have to wonder if these APCs just reduce the soldiers inside to helpless bystanders and targets. These vehicles are often blind to a degree, limited in maneuverability, and seem helpless in urban areas. What happened to the concept of light infantry that was not dependent on being buttoned-up in a vulnerable vehicle? I’d think that more mobile and quick fire and maneuver tactics by dismounted, dispersed infantry might be more efficient in many situations. These lumbering APCs are just begging to be shot at with hand-held rockets or grenades, or ambushed with mines or booby-traps, and when this happens, the occupants tend to all become casualties. But modern armies seem wedded to the idea of more and heavier armor, even though these forces have not been successful at strategically defeating determined guerilla forces. They do kill a lot of civilians and make rubble out of cities, though.

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