Not content merely to destroy mosques, the Shabak has done one better, it has imprisoned without bail yet another Israeli Palestinian imam charging him with crimes which, on the face sound grave, but which on closer examination seem less so:
Sheikh Nazem Abu Salim has allegedly used…web site and…sermons to back global jihad and declare solidarity with Al-Qaida
Israeli authorities have charged an imam from a controversial mosque in the northern city of Nazareth was charged Sunday with inciting violence against Pope Benedict…
Sheikh Nazem Abu Salim, who heads the Shihab A-Din Mosque, was arrested by police a month ago along with Mohammed Naarani, on suspicion of illegally unionizing [ed., this must be an error and probably should read “organizing”], conspiring to commit a crime and support for a terrorist organization…
The indictment said Abu Salim preached “an ideological world view identical to that of global jihad” and wrote “publications that supported and identified with the terror organization Al-Qaida”. It said Abu Salim’s teachings inspired attacks against Jews and Christians, including the murder of one Jew.
The Shabak seems unable to differentiate between an Israeli Palestinian who refuses to toe the Israeli party line and one who is truly a fomentor of terror. Abu Salim’s main threat as far as I can tell is that he is a fiery, cantankerous, even intolerant preacher who rouses his flock to resistance against both Israeli and U.S. policy in the region. He appears to be a zealous advocate for Islam, one who bears little fondness for any religion that, in his view, harms Islam. But a terrorist? Accomplice to murder? Hardly.
Here, for example is a quotation from the right-wing Maariv of statements he has allegedly made. I’m trying to do research to get the original Arabic and so do truer translations hewing to his original intent. But for now, this is what I have. In the first case, he spoke about the Pope’s visit to Nazareth:
It is true, we did not want the Pope to come here [to Nazareth]. The world-wide solution to every problem is Islam. This the imperialist Americans do not want. The Communists are gone and now they are at war with us. They seek an Islam that is weak and beholden to them as it is in America, and not true Islam…True Islam is content to live within its own faith, having mercy on the weak. But against us stands the evil global empire, America. Allah is the One who will solve our problems. There is murder against the Muslim ummah around the world–in Gaza, Afghanistan, Iraq, and more. They intentionally murder women and children. After the Gaza flotilla, Israel seeks to show the world that it is with the Christians and against the Muslims.
Maariv quotes another comment by Abu Salim on the Pope’s visit:
We are opposed to the visit by the Pope who has cursed the Prophet Muhammad, attacked Islam and approved of the slaughter in Gaza.
The prosecution claims that on his website, Muslim 48 (which Israeli authorities have taken down), he explicitly endorsed the views of Osama bin Laden. It further claims that he advocated acts of violence and that his followers committed such acts at his urging, including the murder of a taxi driver, kidnapping of a Domino’s Pizza delivery man, and cacheing of weapons for the purpose of acts of violence against “IDF soldiers, the Pope, and any target that harmed Islam.”
According to this Bar Ilan University professor publishing at News1, an Israeli right wing news portal-scandal sheet, Shabak arrested seven Israeli Palestinian youths accusing them of the crimes noted above. Several confessed to the killing and others allegedly attempted to travel to Somalia to join in global jihad. They supposedly got as far as Kenya, where authorities allegedly stopped them and returned them to Israel. All supposedly are devout followers of the Sheikh, if you believe what you read. But I think that remains to be seen and proven.
As is usual in these cases, I see lots of charges and no evidence. While I have not yet explored Abu Salim’s views in great depth, I haven’t seen any solid evidence that any of these charges are based in hard evidence. Where are the guns? Where is the proof that Abu Salim inspired anyone to kill a Jew? Where are the words of Bin Laden on the Muslim48 website (though it has been taken down I am exploring whether the site may be archived or cached somewhere online). What real violence against the Pope did he inspire?
It looks like the Shabak just got another Palestinian korban (victim) and created another martyr.
During the Shah’s reign, the SAVAK, trained by Mossad, would charge, abduct and imprison people similarly. Now, SAVAMA, basically the successor of SAVAK (same people, bigger organization under Khomeinists and so on) does the same thing by throwing people in Evin without charges.
How is Shabak any different?
Only one major difference, in Israel they have an investigation, legal representation for both the pre trial custody hearings and for the actual trial, an indictment, a trial and right of appeal. Also there is the press and blogs like this that report and criticise freely.
Just because the accused, in this case or others, happens to be a Palestinian Israeli doesn’t necessary mean he is automatically innocent as is assumed on this blog whenever someone like this is even found guilty by admission by the courts. Can’t you ever accept that some of these being investigated or accused actually committed some crime? Not all have to be peaceful “political” prisoners that are dragged off the streets for no reason other than their ethnic origin.
Richard Silverstein says
Leaving out a few things, aren’t we? The torture? Wiretapping of conversations bet. lawyer & client, refusal to allow client to consult w. attorney, incarceration of virtually unlimited duration. Complicates things a bit doesn’t it?
You’ve got it backwards. The Israeli system dominated by the secret police presumes guilt in security cases (whether victims are Jews or Palestinians, but esp if the latter). I don’t presume Abu Salim is innocent. But I do presume fraud on the part of the Shabak & demand that it prove its case transparently, which it never does.
You know, I’m funny that way. I’d rather a guilty man go free than 1,000 innocent ones go to jail. In the Israeli system priorities are entirely diff. YOu get the conviction at all costs whatever it takes even if it means trampling over rights & individuals. That isn’t kosher. But Israeli largely accept this legal mayhem as a Faustian bargain w. the secret police because they think it buys them peace & quiet. It only buys them deep injustice & temporary peace, which is a false peace.
Shabak has plenty of charges against it in the same regard – lack of due process, etc. But to say that Iran has no legal system is also propaganda mythology. There is legal representation and a right to appeal. Press and blogs, like this, criticize Iranian policy freely. I bet if Richard was a Gazan in Gaza writing this blog he would have already been snuffed.
Shabak and Savak sound alike, too. Next thing you know, the settlers will form militias that sound like Basiji to enforce the law as they see it fit.
Richard Silverstein says
They already have paramilitary security squads, but their jurisdiction is only for their own settlment. It’s possible at some future pt the IDF will privatize settlement security at which time you can look for Basij type paramilitary groups to reign.
There’s a Jewish proverb saying “Doing what Zimri did, and asking for Phineas’s reward”. It means – You do something bad, and you’re asking for a reward. There’s also another proverb saying “Dina Demlahuta Dina” which means “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
Muslims must separate their Mosques from political activities if they want to gain the protection afforded to places of religion. This is what the Jews always did – Synagogues were for worship (and usually – for sharing the woes and troubles of living in the Galout) but always “Dina Demlahuta Dina” – Synagogues were never used to incite revolt.
Religion should be separates from politics and national struggle; especially it should be distanced from terrorism.
If the Muslims do as Zimiri did (i.e. use their Mosques as places for recruiting terrorist, for inflaming the masses, for storing explosives) they can’t ask for a reward such as Phineas’s.
Richard Silverstein says
But you’re observing 2 standards aren’t you, one for Jews (settlers in this particular case) & another for Muslims. Extremist hotbed yeshivas, synaoguges & settlements get a pass while egregiously violating yr prohibition on political incitement, but Muslims get hammered for doing precisely the same thing. I know what that’s called where I come from: hypocrisy.
You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. What about the synagogues used to store Lehi munitions? And the ones where Kahane’s grandson congregates planning their next outrages on W. Bank mosques in places like Tapuach?
Good luck on that. When Ovadia Yosef takes yr advice then we can talk as you’ll sound a bit more credible.
Why does Yosef get his reward in the form of the chief rabbinate??
Excuse me, is this a blame competition? How is the Lehi’s alleged behavior sixty years ago relevant to what I’m saying? Are you saying that Muslims today in Israel, Gaza, Germany, London, Scandinavia and the States should use the Mosques as safe houses for terrorist activities? Or perhaps you opinion is that in Israel and Gaze it’s allowed but elsewhere it’s not? Or maybe you claim that indeed they shouldn’t use Mosques for terrorist and subversive purposes but I, as an Israeli, is not allowed to make this claim?
Re Israelis planning attacks on Mosques –
1. Mosques are being used today for the purposes I’ve already mentioned
2. Palestinians physically attack our holly places: Throwing stones on people praying at the West Wall, preventing access to holly places in Hebron and Beit Lehem, inciting terror preventing Israelis from visiting heritage monuments such as Herod’s tomb. Remember that they’re dwelling on the birthplace of OUR heritage.
3. Palestinians attack our holly places politically (like that ridiculous statement by UNESCO claiming that the Tomb of Rachel is a mosque, a statement that totally disqualifies this organization).
4. Palestinians cause much suffering to Israelis living in the Judea and Samaria, which makes “hitting back where it hurts” kind of logical.
Regardless of the above I’m totally against partisan attacks on Mosques (or any “taking the law into one’s hands”, for that matter). That’s what a state is for. We built Israel so that the Israeli Jews living here will have the same level of state protection as they do in other advanced Western Democracies and one should leave to the state what’s the responsibility of the state.
And exactly for this reason – to prevent Jewish extermist from wrong-doings – we have the “Jewish Division” in the Shabak.
Richard Silverstein says
You were the one who claimed that Muslims use mosques for terror. I merely pointed out that Jews do the same. Where do you think Meir Kahane learned his ideology? In a yeshiva of course. Jewish sacred spaces are used in precisely the same ways as mosques. They educate, but often indoctrinate. And they are equally political.
Good Lord, do they? I’m sure they have absolutely no reason to do so & such attacks are unprovoked. I seem to recall a visit by Ariel Sharon during which he stuck his tongue out at worshippers at the Dome of the Rock. Or was I imagining this?
Gosh darn it, I forgot about that. I was under the mistaken impression that it was Israel throwing Palestinians out of their homes in East Jerusalem and elsewhere.
God yes, that was so ridiculous for UNESCO to acknowledge that the Tomb is also a mosque. How foolish of them to try to describe the actual reality of the site. BTW, you don’t seem to have things right. UNESCO didn’t call it a mosque, it said that it was both a mosque and a tomb.
Damn, you’re right. And all for no reason. No provocation.
Yes, instead of having Meir Kahane’s grandson burn down mosques and fail miserably, we should recruit the ILA & Border Police to do the job properly. That’s what a state is for isn’t it? A little state sponsored anti Muslim pogrom?
Didn’t work out quite so well though, did it? Jews are much more secure and protected by western states than are Israel’s Jewish citizens. Ever wonder why it’s more dangerous to be a Jew in Israel than anywhere else in the world?
And they did a bang up job on the Chaim Pearlman case, didn’t they? Murdered how many Palestinians and walks out of prison without any charges being filed? Look how they got Jack Teitel as well. Murdered God knows how many Palestinians and Israeli gays & then gets declared cuckoo so he won’t have to serve time alongside a ‘real terrorist’ like Marwan Barghouti. Yes, the Jewish Division of Shabak is, if it’s possible, even more competent than the rest of that bunch that persecutes Palestinians.
I seem to recall a visit by Ariel Sharon during which he stuck his tongue out at worshippers at the Dome of the Rock.
Never heard of it, and would be MOST interested if you could provide a (reliable source, non-Palestinain/ Photoshopped) photo.
Richard Silverstein says
Don’t be such a literalist. Sharon stuck his tongue out at Palestinians figuratively by walking on their holy ground uninvited.
Ariel Shatil says
One could add that Sharon’s visit to the Al-Aqsa Mosque took place just ten days after the eighteenth anniversary of Sabra and Shatila. That significance did not go unnoticed among Palestinians although Israeli media did its best to disregard it. I seem to recall Sharon hinting that the timing was not accidental although in official interviews he denied it with a smile and a wink.
Richard Silverstein says
Just like he as much as admitted with a smile & wink that he was responsible for killing Arafat. The whole lot are a despicable bunch.
Ariel Shatil says
And now they have arrested another Imam and trashed his place up:
This is really going to blow up in our faces. First the Supreme Court upholding the decision by a right wing judge to allow settlers to settle in the middle of Ajamy because it was a “done deal”, and now this. As I also live smack in the middle of Ajamy I’ll have a firsthand view on how it develops.