4 thoughts on “Israeli Talks With Hamas…Sort Of…to Free Shalit – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. It’s strange how they kidnapped Hamas ministers in a direct attempt to force a release of the Israeli soldier, how it seemed to have worked with Hamas making direct appeals for a prisoner swap, but the Israeli leadership still doesn’t want to move forward. But then, everything is justified if you are an Israel hawk.

  2. Yes, it’s the oddest thing that Israel has adopted the worst tactics of its enemy. If you object to the idea of kidnapping your own soldiers & citizens why would you attempt to use the same tactic against yr enemies?? Unless of course you feel that in fighting yr enemy there are no moral impediments to yr behavior.

  3. hamas can produce results since they are in charge there now…they were able to get johnston the bbc reporter released, that was a sign to the europeans that they can produce results and are in control…i do not believe they will not produce the soldiers unless some european entity they can trust brokers a really good deal for them….all in all this will create pressure among the european or united nation states that are not biased in favor of israel and the u.s to make demands on israel that will favor hamas…whether its recognition or some other such political capital. my money is on the arab nations from now on, they will never surrender to the zionist and will create havoc forever until they find a solution, i am exceedingly happy that the will not allow the zionist government of israel to abuse them any longer.

    thats my take
    good luck to all of you with zionist dreams of an israel without palestinians you have found a foe as determined as you.

  4. Yes, it’s the oddest thing that Israel has adopted the worst tactics of its enemy. If you object to the idea of kidnapping your own soldiers & citizens why would you attempt to use the same tactic against yr enemies?? Unless of course you feel that in fighting yr enemy there are no moral impediments to yr behavior

    Odd that you should mention that:

    The legitimate basis for the IDF’s operation was stripped away the moment it began. It’s no accident that nobody mentions the day before the attack on the Kerem Shalom fort, when the IDF kidnapped two civilians, a doctor and his brother, from their home in Gaza. The difference between us and them? We kidnapped civilians and they captured a soldier, we are a state and they are a terror organization. How ridiculously pathetic Amos Gilad sounds when he says that the capture of Shalit was “illegitimate and illegal,” unlike when the IDF grabs civilians from their homes. How can a senior official in the defense ministry claim that “the head of the snake” is in Damascus, when the IDF uses the exact same methods?

    True, when the IDF and Shin Bet grab civilians from their homes – and they do so often – it is not to murder them later. But sometimes they are killed on the doorsteps of their homes, although it is not necessary, and sometimes they are grabbed to serve as “bargaining chips,” like in Lebanon and now, with the Palestinian legislators. What an uproar there would be if the Palestinians had grabbed half the members of the Israeli government. How would we label them?

    Collective punishment is illegitimate and it does not have a smidgeon of intelligence. Where will the inhabitants of Beit Hanun run? With typical hardheartedness the military reporters say they were not “expelled” but that it was “recommended” they leave, for the benefit, of course, of those running for their lives. And what will this inhumane step lead to? Support for the Israeli government? Their enlistment as informants and collaborators for the Shin Bet? Can the miserable farmers of Beit Hanun and Beit Lahia do anything about the Qassam rocket-launching cells? Will bombing an already destroyed airport do anything to free the soldier or was it just to decorate the headlines?
    A black flag, 3rd july 2006

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