17 thoughts on “North Carolina Muslim Murders – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. @Richard – You move from saying you believe this was probably NOT a hate crime to comparing it to the kidnapping of Naftali Fraenkel, Yaakov Naftali and Gilad Shaer which was obviously a political act. It just doesn’t add up!

    Not to mention, kidnapping and hostage situations tend to capture int’l media. An example can be the latest case at Lindt Chocolat Cafe in Sydney. It was all over the news even before there were any casualties. In the latest case in Israel, the fact no demands were made and no bodies were found, just made it worse.

    And no, it wasn’t an islamophobic reporting since the gunman was identified many hours later.

    1. @ Ariel: I never said it was “probably not a hate crime.” I only said there were other conflicting claims. I do NOT put great stock in the killer’s wife’s claims. I do put stock in the victim’s family’s claims that it was a hate crime. But there isn’t enough evidence yet to support it.

      I did not compare the crimes to each other except in the sense that Pres. Obama denounced the Israeli crime and remained silent about the North Carolina crime, which I think is a schandeh & points to the power of the Lobby. Unfortunately, there is no Muslim-American Lobby here.

  2. Deah Barakat, a graduate student, was Syrian-American. His wife Yusor Mohammed Abu-Salha (whom he married on Dec 27th 2014) and her sister, Razan Mohammed Abu-Salha, were of Palestinian descent, daughters of psychiatrist Mohamed Abu-Salha. Yusor studied biology and went to Turkey last summer to work with Syrian refugees, and Razan studied architecture.
    This picture is from Yusor’s Facebook, it just breaks my heart, she posted it on Monday: a beautiful picure from her wedding with the words “Dancing with Daddy” and a red heart.
    In the afternoon, Razan responded “I cry”
    Next day they were both killed.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153033291963449&set=a.438093403448.210079.580418448&type=1&theater

  3. “another act of Islamophobia in that state. Duke University planned to permit the Muslim call to prayer to be played in the campus quad along with church bells.”

    I don’t know if you have ever lived in an Islamic state but I have. It is very annoying at 5AM to have defective loudspeakers blasting in your ears when you want to sleep. There is nothing in Sharia which obligates this and today there are programs on smartphones for all the 5 Islamic prayers so to blast the prayer call 5 times a day is a public annoyance. I am sure that you would not want a mosque near your house 7 days a week, 5 times a day screeching out noise which the great majority of people do no want to hear.
    This is hardly Islamophobia but just a public nuisance.
    There are many places in the US and England were the orthodox Jews have want to put up an Eruv and it has almost universally rejected. I believe in Toronto there is one but off hand I do not know of another.
    So I ask you, is this not Judeophobia? It may be categorized as un-aesthetic for the neighborhood but it could be also Judeophobia,no?

    1. @ moise: Thanks for offering your own example of Jewish Islamophobia.

      In fact, there are eruvim all over the U.S. in every major city with Jews including NYC, Los Angeles and even Seattle, where I live. I’ve never lived in other cities with large Jewish populations like Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, but I’m certain they exist there too. Why do you proclaim your ignorance of American Jewish life for all the world to see??

      Publish more know nothing crap like this again here & you’ll be history…

      1. You overlooked the essential point that I was making. An Eruv is not heard and barely seen if you are not looking for it. It does not bother anybody whereas a screeching call 5 times a day for prayer is annoying.
        Smartphones are readily available.

        1. @ moise: One of your ‘essential points’ was that Jews are treated worse than Muslims because they can’t have eruvim. This claim is patently false.

          If you raise your Islamophobic complaint about the call to prayer again I’ll moderate you.

          1. ” One of your ‘essential points’ was that Jews are treated worse than Muslims because they can’t have eruvim. This claim is patently false.”
            My point was simply the noise factor. As far as I am concerned they can build mosques wherever they want.
            i.e. eruvin. I have not lived in the US for 45 years and from what I remember Toronto was known for its eruv as one of the experts in the subject lived there. At that time there were no eruvin in NY and the simple reason for the difficulty of making one is the fact that if any car parks under the eruv{and a car is considered a רשות היחיד it invalidates the eruv. What has ensued since then I do not know.

          2. @ moise: You apparently either don’t read my comments to you or don’t care what I say. Now, you are moderated.

            If you “don’t know” about a subject, don’t pontificate about it. It makes you look like a fool when someone who knows better points out your errors.

    2. I lived near a mosque when I lived in Leiden: The call to prayer was done on Friday only, and not early in the morning. And the volume was lower than the average church bell. Why do you have to be so hysterical, as if compromise is an unheard of thing when Muslins are concerned.

      1. I just read that there is no ban on the call to prayer in the Netherlands, as it is seen as a right similar to the tolling of church bells. Only 12 mosques use this right, usually only on Friday and after consultation with the neighborhood.

  4. Of course this was not a hate-crime, it was just over parking! If this is true, then every lynching was about Blacks being in the wrong place, saying or doing the wrong thing, they had nothing to do with hating Blacks!

    There are politicians leading the emotional charge against Islam and Muslims. Right-wing Churches and Synagogues whipping up anti-Muslim fear, even the FBI and the Police is being trained to look upon Islam and Muslims as the greatest threat to the US and to the West. Any wonder that the gullible public believes it all and reaches for their guns whenever Muslims are in the picture?

  5. The local police department initially tried to treat this triple murder as a mundane case of ‘parking space rage’. The guy just “snapped” and happened to have his gun handy!
    That’s a Steelers fan for you.

  6. On Thursday night, the FBI said that it had “opened a parallel preliminary inquiry to determine whether or not any federal laws were violated related to Stephen Hicks’s fatal shooting of Deah Barakat, Yusor Abu-Salha, and Razan Abu-Salha… Meanwhile, on Friday, President Obama issued his first statement on the killings. “No one in the United States of America should ever be targeted because of who they are, what they look like, or how they worship. Michelle and I offer our condolences to the victims’ loved ones,” he said. “As we saw with the overwhelming presence at the funeral of these young Americans, we are all one American family. Whenever anyone is taken from us before their time, we remember how they lived their lives — and the words of one of the victims should inspire the way we live ours.”
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/fbi-is-looking-into-the-north-carolina-shooting.html

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