12 thoughts on “If Israel Outlaws Palestinian Political Voices, Declare One State – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. Bravo, Mr. Silverstein. Jump right in. The water is cold but invigorating. And it’s hot, heated by the radiation of wisdom and compassion. The Golden Rule has not and never will be revoked, no matter what rhetorical contortions the Zionists employ.

  2. The most intelligent proposal I’ve read in a long time. It reminds me of our (Irish) attempts to work in the parliamentary system in Westminster with the ultimate goal of Irish Autonomy. It didn’t quite work out that way, but it sowed the seeds for the idea that Ireland could exist on its own, without British rule. The parallel is tenuous, but still. Great idea Richard.

  3. The only problem I see is the military aparatus at the state’s disposal is huge and far-reaching. Then again, once they start throwing Jewish people in prisons alongside Palestinians (which could be inevitable at this stage, regardless of whether such a political body is set up or not) then the claim that the state of Israel is synonomous with the Jewish people/ religion will become ever more tenuous.

  4. a wonderful proposal. I suggest we start it out by trying it on a small locality, say haram a sharif (temple mount). Lets see how jews and muslim share the sacred precinct allowing both sides free excess and freedom of religious expression. One this pilot is successful we can implement it in the rest of the country.
    BTW, the actual voting percentage of arabs in Israel is only 10% lower than the national average. The reason the number of arab MKs in the Knesset is relatively small is because the waste of votes on tiny splinter parties and because many arab voters vote for non-arab partys like labor, meretz, shas’ and even likud.
    http://www.idi.org.il/%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%98/%D7%92%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9F-75/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99-%D7%94%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%AA%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%91%D7%91%D7%97%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-2013-%D7%9E%D7%A0%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%93%D7%AA-%D7%9E%D7%91%D7%98-%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%AA/

    1. @ eli: Welcome to the latest hasbara visitor from the planet Zio-land.

      It is actually the Israeli far right which has poisoned the relationship with religion. So I reject your disingenuous suggestion. I’d rather reduce the conflict to its political components & fix those. As for how to fix things on the Temple Mount, Muslims should have full access to their 2 sacred mosques. THere is absolutely nothing in Jewish halacha or tradition that insists Jews must access the Temple Mount in order to pray there. Jews should have access to the Mount in the same way tourists do, but not for religious worship. Having Jewish access to the Kotel is sufficient for religious worship.

      As for the rate of voter participation, it’s usually 65-70% among Jews and less than 50% among Palestinians. That’s far more than the 10% you allege. “Many” Palestinians vote for Labor and Likud?? Are you off your rocker? Perhaps if you include Druze a few may vote Labor. But no Palestinians vote Likud and almost none Labor.

      1. Richard,
        Too bad you don’t care to verify your claims. Doesn’t improve your credibility.
        In the latest election the average vote was 67%. Among the arab sector it was 58%. That’s a 10% difference.
        As for the claim that no Palestinian votes likud, the figures show your wrong. In furedis likud got 15%. In alut – 9%. In nazaret 344 votes for likud. In sakhnin – 121. In um el hahem – 19.
        Its quit easy to check, you know.

        1. @ eli: I wasn’t talking about one election, but about the average over the past few ones. The vote among Israeli Palestinians was 56% according to Jerusalem Post, a source I presume you value. Not 58%. And Palestinian voting was much lower in previous elections (closer to the 50% figure I mentioned). Israeli Jewish voting was at a higher percentage in previous elections & the spread was closer to 20% than 10%.

          I never denied some Israeli palestinians didn’t vote for Likud. I’m sure some southern whites would vote for Black Muslims if they were on the ballot, and some Blacks would vote for the Tea Party. Wonders never cease. But the vast majority of Israeli Palestinians would run a thousand miles before voting for Likud.

  5. ” THere is absolutely nothing in Jewish halacha or tradition that insists Jews must access the Temple Mount in order to pray there.”
    There is nothing in the Islamic shari’a which obligates a Moslem to pray at the temple mount either.
    That fact that is is forbidden for a Jew and others to pray or carry a prayerbook or to even move their lips is indicative of the Arabic mentality,’na’arish’.
    As you may or may not know there are diff opinions in Judaism concerning the ‘holiness ‘ of the temple mount. From the point of view that the ‘holiness’ still remains to the opinion that since the destruction of the temple there is no holiness there and no problem to ascend to a place which is ‘registered’ as being bought by the Jews from the Jebusitesj in a book called the OT which is the foundation of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, not taking into account a fair amount of plagiarism and and gross chronological mistakes or the later two.

    1. @ Noach: THis is nonsense. Are you saying that the 3rd holiest shrine in Islam which contains two mosques is NOT a place where Islam tells Muslims they must pray? Are you daft? Is there a synagogue in the world where Jews would not feel obligated to pray?

  6. Tomer Persico who teaches at TAU has an interesting article on the politization of the Temple Mount:
    http://972mag.com/how-likud-became-the-almightlys-contractor-at-the-temple-mount/98402/
    “This is but the peak of a multi-year process, during which the ruling party has turned from a traditional-secular party professing a security-based rejection of territorial compromise into an ethnic-nationalist party, which places a mythological concept at the center of its agenda. This mythic narrative is based on the belief that the Temple Mount constitutes a metaphysical focal point for the People of Israel, a sort of divine power socket – the connection that charges the nation with force and vitality. (…..)
    The Temple Mount serves Regev, Feiglin, Edelstein and Elkin as a national flag around which to rally. The location of the temple to them is nothing more than a capstone in the national struggle against the Palestinians, and sovereignty over the Mount becomes a totem embodying sovereignty over the entire country. “

  7. 100% agree with you on this one Richard. Though one slight change break Israel into cantons. Personally the government is too strong and israel should be broken up regionally and politically to ensure cohesion and prevent one persons laws and values being put on someone else. Like telaviv could be its own with its own laws on marriage and there could be a canton in the negev to make sure the bedowin govern the way that want to be. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_(country_subdivision)

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