6 thoughts on “Israel and Egypt’s Junta, Birds of a Feather – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. White House denies rumors of cutting Egypt aid

    The Obama administration is denying media reports that the United States plans to cut aid to Egypt.

    “The reports that we are halting all military assistance to Egypt are false,” National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said. “We will announce the future of our assistance relationship with Egypt in the coming days, but as the president made clear at UNGA (the United Nations General Assembly meeting in New York), that assistance relationship will continue.”

    Looks like CNN et al got it wrong (as they so often do).

    1. Cutting Military Aid and Funds to Egypt

      State Dep’t Press Release – U.S. Assistance to Egypt

      As a result of the review directed by President Obama, we have decided to maintain our relationship with the Egyptian government, while recalibrating our assistance to Egypt to best advance our interests. The United States will work with the interim Egyptian government and Congress to continue to provide support that directly benefits the Egyptian people in areas like health, education, and private sector development. We will continue assistance to help secure Egypt’s borders, counter terrorism and proliferation, and ensure security in the Sinai. We will continue to provide parts for U.S.-origin military equipment as well as military training and education. We will, however, continue to hold the delivery of certain large-scale military systems and cash assistance to the government pending credible progress toward an inclusive, democratically elected civilian government through free and fair elections. The United States continues to support a democratic transition and oppose violence as a means of resolving differences within Egypt.

      “Egypt will not surrender to American pressure and is continuing its path towards democracy as set by the roadmap.”

  2. Here is one thing that I don’t really agree on.

    The Muslim Brotherhood lost democratic legitimacy with Morsi’s amendments to the constitution back in 2012, if not earlier. They also stood by and supported the crackdown on anti-MB protesters gleefully, or did nothing when pro-MB or Salafist thugs went out and beat up or tried to kill anti-MB demonstrators on other occasions.

    During his time in office, Morsi allowed greater freedom for fringe extremists and sectarians to go on radio or television and preach overly hateful messages; saying that the Coptics were “evil” or not true Egyptians, or that Shia’a were “evil” and should be killed, or that the people who considered themselves “followers” of these people were the only “real Muslims” and everyone else was an infidel or a heretic– divisive, disgusting, lying claptrap that often caused the sort of people who listened to believe that “they were sanctioned” in attacking the “enemies” laid out in the messages of these extremist ideologues. Morsi personally stood by and said nothing when the same sort of people spoke at a rally, again mostly attended by the more violent sort of Salafi, talking about how they needed to fight a holy war in Syria and to “kill all the Shia and the Alawi vermin”.

    When Morsi was elected, the overall voter turn-out rate was something like 30%, and Morsi won with 51% over the “Mubarakite” Shafic, who had 48%. I’m not saying here that this election doesn’t matter– apart from the conservative Islamist support base, Morsi did make promises about improving the internal issues in the nation, especially concerning jobs and the economy– but I am saying that it wasn’t as though it was this resounding, undisputable, everyone-loves-him Morsi victory.

    If one looks at the multiple and varied groups who had gone into opposition, or were created in opposition, to MB rule, one has to take into account that they represent the opinions of a large portion of Egyptian people, and it would be preposterous to say that these groups are all anti-democracy or pro-repression (not that I’m saying you’re saying that here, but there are some people who do seem to be saying things along those lines– admittedly, many of these sorts do seem to be overly sympathetic to the MB). These groups, as well as what amounted to millions of Egyptians, asked for Morsi to step down from office due to the fact that many people were dissatisfied, or angry, with his behaviour while in office, and when he refused to do so, the army stepped in and removed him from the presidency.

    At this point, naturally it becomes a lot less clear, and I’m not going to be one of those people who tries to absolves the army of any wrong-doing, or who says that “Al-Sisi is a saint” or anything like that. I condemn the massacres of anyone who died afterwards, especially during the summer– although I see a big difference between the Palestinians as a people and the supporters of the MB and their more extreme allies who’ve been protesting since July. The only main similarity between the two is that they both get shot at, although the Palestinians, as you know, naturally, are shot at as “per usual” and most often out of hand, and in response to staging protests or actions in anger over being denied their basic rights, or the theft of their land, or everything else that has been going on for decades. A lot of the MB supporters mainly seem to be upset that so many in the country turned out to be anti-Islamist, or at least anti conservative Islamist, and there is a dearth of essentially malicious, overly sectarian rhetoric, if not outright violent rhetoric, being thrown around by people demonstrating in favour of Morsi.
    No doubt some are unhappy that it seems as though they won’t get their so-called “Islamic state” (which would be, as per their specific ideals, an ultra-intolerant, pro takfiri Salafi state) because Morsi’s not around to passively condone their antics anymore. I guess these sorts decided that it would be best to vent their anger by attacking random Coptic churches/ any other people in Egypt who weren’t the “violent Salafi” brand of Sunni. These sorts seem to make up the nucleus of the insurgency in the Sinai– “black flag” groups who at least partially have alliances with Al Qaeda, and who have no claims or legitimacy to anything or for anything (far different from the Palestinians), and who appear to believe that the best recourse is to try and attack the Egyptian military and police in the Sinai, and hope to frighten people living there as part of a collective punishment to the nation because of Morsi’s removal.

    I’d like to apologize in advance if this seems at all rambling– I think the sentence structure and everything is good though.

    1. Before I look like an idiot in this regard– I should’ve wrote that for the elections, the first round saw a voter turn-out rate of 46% of eligible voters, and the second round 52%. Almost half still voted for the guy tainted by his relationship with Mubarak, and the issue of 48% of the eligible voter base not voting in the second round is something to consider.

    2. @ Kyle: You’re completely off-base. You blame Morsi because he didn’t speak out about this or that outrage when most national leaders similary don’t speak out against outrages like these within their countries. A president isn’t responsible for every bad act that occurs in his country nor is he responsible merely because he doesn’t denounce it. Morsi may’ve been an especially bad president, but there have been far worse presidents in the world who completed their terms w/o coups being mounted against them. There is only one way to topple a president in a democracy, by voting. Unfortunately, Egypt’s Mubarak-era courts rejected the Constitution and none could be completed that might’ve provided an alternate roadmap to impeach a president. But those are the ONLY ways to go. Anything else is illegitimate, period.

      You’ve shown you simply don’t know anything about the Brotherhood, its members, their views, etc. You’ve essentially justified a military coup. That’s about the most despicable position any so-called progressive can take.

      Your comment was off-topic as well. Other readers have written precisely the same sort of ignorant anti-MB comment before. So let that be the end of this subject.

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