14 thoughts on “Jewish Terrorist, Charged With Multiple Palestinian Murders, ‘Outs’ Chief of Shin Bet’s Jewish Terror Department – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. As the government of Israel is a coalition and Mossad and the Shin Bet are “responsible” through different ministries, there’s no intrinsic guarantee that they won’t work at cross-purposes at the behest of one minister or another.

    It’s also probably a bit like the FSB and the SVR; the SVR is responsible for gathering technical and even political intelligence in the West, the FSB is apparently charged with the solemn duty of killing the Kremlin leadership’s political enemies by the most gruesome of methods in the West.

    The division between the two is much less clear than that between the FBI and the CIA, and is based more on the type of operation than on geographical area.

    Concepts of propriety sacred in America, mean little in Tel Aviv and Moscow, and probably a lot less than that in Paris.

    (The DGSCE response to a shipload of civilian protestors doing something they didn’t like, was a limpet mine as I recall.)

  2. I detect a contradiction here…on the one hand you say that the “SHABAK may not want to stop Jewish terrorists” since you think their views are “close to those of the Jewish terrorists”, but on the other hand, you correctly mentioned the Kahalani brother’s case in which the SHABAK encouraged them to attack Arabs and even gave them the weapons. If you notice, that occurred in 1994. What is important about that date? That was the beginning of the Oslo Agreements which were not popular among the public, particularly among traditional supporters of the Labor Party and MERETZ. The head of the SHABAK was Carmi Gillon who was and is still identified with the “peace camp” in Israel (he wrote a Master’s Thesis on “Jewish terror” which consisted of numerous articles by Uri Avnery) and the government thought it would be useful for propaganda purposes for people to think there was a Jewish terror undergound. In other words, the action was intended as political sabotage against the anti-Oslo Right. These activities culminated in the actions of Avishai Raviv, a SHABAK provocateur who assaulted Arabs in Hevron where he was sent to carry out provocations, and against Leftist Jewish figures such as HADASH MK Tamar Guzansky. Ultimately, he became Yigal Amir’s closest companion, as is described in depth in the Shamgar Commission report on the Rabin assassination.

    1. the Oslo Agreements which were not popular among the public, particularly among traditional supporters of the Labor Party and MERETZ.

      What fascinating fiction you concoct. Since Yossi Beilin & members of Labor were the ones who devised, negotiated & implemented Oslo you might want to check yr reality meter & recalibrate. What you mean to say is that Oslo was unpopular among your far right pro settler crowd.

      the action was intended as political sabotage against the anti-Oslo Right.

      Ah, that’s so convenient–only a Labor gov’t would be so cynical as to arm two settler crazies & allow them to fire an M 16 at the head of a Palestinian at pt blank range. Because they wanted to provoke a major bloodbath & blame the far right. That’s makes so much sense. Thanks for enlightening us as to your fever dreams & wild conspiracy theories.

      And the Shin Bet also colluded in the assassination of Rabin. Nice. Keep up the good work informing the world about the “truth” through your eyes.

      1. While i am not a supporter of the popular conspiracy theory about Rabin’s assassination, I do agree that your perecption of Israel’s labor/meretz crowd is unrealistic, Richard. The differences, de facto, between labor politics and likkud are more a matter of style or cosmetics. Definitely, the attempt to frame the settlers is plausible, despite the fact that the settlements are the creation of Labor. By making false divisions you overlook the fact that every activity in Israel is state sponsored, and so its much more disturbing to realize that those “jewish terrorists” are in fact coerced state agents, who are created and forced into “plausible deniability” status.
        nobody in Israel (and the elections are the proof) “buys” the meretz-labor facade anymore, among the lefties as well (or mostly). It was convenient to play “good cop/bad cop”
        traditionally, the Shin Bet/Mossad/atomic energy committees were bastions of labor, in the management level. and the scenario proposed up here in the talkback is plausible.
        I made the same comment re your over protectiveness of New Israel Fund, in light of the recent attack they endure. These people ARE part of the establishments they so called criticize. its a bit of a scam. Regardless of the true rifts in other issues bn the “old guards” and the new ones.( which are more on the issue of “how” and not so much on “what” to do, in terms of policies and wars).
        Kadima is the ultimate proof that by and large the political parties are in cohutes, and remember who headed Kadima’s creation.
        I think its important to listen to what people are telling you here, the violations of human rights in Israel run deep.

          1. why far fetched ?
            its very practical to conduct a certain hardline policy (for instance in the territories) and blame it on “vigilantes” that were properly groomed, wittingly or not, to serve the role. La guerre comme la guerre (sp ?).
            In fact the “settlements” as a concept are just that. Its labor “shtik” and some say a golem that now usurped the master.
            that’s very much israel, the “instrumental” treatment of citizens for some uber complex strategy to outsmart the “world”, never mind the costs. its very convenient to inflame an artificial boogieman, and then off-set them with palestinian demands. I do not condone that. People have a right not to be cynically brainwashed in order to later condemn their extremism. definitly it turns out that some brainwashing sticks and outlives its original time limits. therefore, if there are agent provocatuers acting among disturbed youth, for instance, in the territories, its a grave matter that I don’t take lightly, even if I dislike the target crowd to begin with. people like teitel, the american born jewish terrorist of last year, appears to me,IMVHO, a case of chronic, long term, abuse by government, given his family background. or at least deserves a second look.

    2. ” That was the beginning of the Oslo Agreements which were not popular among the public, particularly among traditional supporters of the Labor Party and MERETZ. ”

      That is completely untrue .
      Who was it you think that filled the square the night of the peace rally when Rabin was shot in the back ?

      We who were once Meretz have now become Hadash bar_kochba132 , for this you may thank the ” anti-Oslo Right ” .

      Has nothing to do with SHABAK or Carmi Gillon our vote is due to the policies of your far right pro settler crowd.
      You are driving us further Left with your lies and your politics of fear , your hatred of us and of anyone that does not support the dream of a Greater Israel .

      Yigal Amir silenced one voice , those of us that were there that night refuse to be silenced , the Israeli ” peace camp ” is still very much alive and we do not think ” there was a Jewish terror undergound ” we KNOW that there is .

  3. It’s very interesting…
    When the Shabak goes against a Leftist, you are very concerned, write one article after the next and defend the probable criminal.
    When the Shabak goes against a Rightist, you defend the Shabak in certain points and attack the probable criminal. So far for your ‘fairness’ and ‘universal values’.
    But another interesting point:
    Pearlman is not allowed to see his family and even not his lawyer! I just try to imagine what articles you would have produced, if Anat Kamm or the Hisb’Allah freaks from Balad would have been forbidden from seeing their lawyer?!

    1. So you think that my identifying a Shin Bet agent by name and by picture means I’m defending it? What planet are you living on? I am uniformly critical of the Shin Bet. But yes, I think people like Pearlman who have likely murdered Palestinians are extremely dangerous. I hadn’t noticed that Anat Kamm or Ameer Makhoul had killed anyone, yet they are treated as bad or worse than a likely killer like Pearlman.

      Can you show me where you complained about Makhoul being tortured & treated precisely the same as Pearlman. Then I’ll sympathize. BTW, I don’t support torture against Jewish terrorist any more than I do against Palestinian suspects. But the Jewish terrorist are far better equipped to withstand their interrogations.

  4. I haven’t commented very much lately, but I still check in to read your blog which I find fascinating.

    I’m in a funk over the issue of Israeli occupation since Obama’s been grovelling before Netanyahu.

    Where’s the justice when the world looks the other way while Israel continues down this road? I’m not sure what it will take to end the occupation and the mounting injustice.

  5. BTW, I don’t support torture against Jewish terrorist any more than I do against Palestinian suspects. But the Jewish terrorist are far better equipped to withstand their interrogations.

    Jewish terrorist – guilty till proven innocent
    Palestinian suspects – innocent till proven guilty

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