4 thoughts on “UN Two-State Conference: Beating a Dead Horse – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. LA Distraction: Attack on Iran Imminent

    Blogosphere on fire 🔥 past hours.

    Huckabee: a future Palestinian state could be formed out of land from Muslim countries rather than in Judea and Samaria.

  2. The two state solution seems a wonderful idea, but what would a Palestinian state look like? Has anybody described what sovereignty for Palestine really means?
    Most experts accept that the current borders are not viable, and a return to the 1967 or the 1948 borders would not be accepted by Israel. In addition the meaning of “sovereignty”, what a Palestine government can do within its borders, have never been discussed, as far as I am aware. Would the Palestine government have the right to a military force, tanks, jet fighters, naval warships???

    Is anybody discussing these issues? Does anybody think Israel would fit in with the dictionary meaning of sovereignty of Palestine? Would America fit in with it?

  3. I am baffled. I simply do not understand how or why intelligent people would even waste time discussing a “Two-State solution”, it is as realistic as a discussion on the establishment of a Native American state within the city of New York. “Two-State” is a dead concept unless the Palestinian “state” consists of another large open-air prison like Gaza and that is no path to peace.
    Where and HOW would it be established? Let’s just look at some issues…
    Israeli Jews are not about to go back to even the 1967 borders; they are not likely to evacuate any settlements on the West Bank either. Gaza is flattened along with about 200,000 Palestinian men, women and children, most of whom are still buried under the rubble.
    Israel insists on complete _defense”) military control over air space and the “right” to “hot pursuit”, Israelis will still demand the water they have been taking from Palestinian territories for decades and it will want veto over any foreign relationships, business or otherwise. No military for Palestinian “state”. Transit through Israel from West Bank to Gaza “will be negotiated”.
    Yeah, I can see how successful the Palestinian “state” will be!

    Nothing is going to change until the US stops supplying Israel with unlimited weapons and money, along with Europe; that is a difficult thing to imagine when there are so many in US Congress blindly support Israel (even now with Genocide in full swing). THHEN Israeli Jews will have to face the fact that the only way for them to continue to live with security and dignity is to have ONE state that includes Christian and Muslim (Palestinians) as equal citizens. Until then, Israeli Jews can happily slaughter away the people who subconsciously remind them of their Shoah survivor ancestors.

  4. The concept of ethnic partition – the two state ‘solution’ – has always been toxic. It’s just a euphemism for apartheid. (link to bureauofcounterpropaganda.blogspot.com)

    As for recognition of The State Of Palestine leading to, or ‘building momentum towards a two-state solution’ (link to theguardian.com), it demonstrates deep confusion. 147 countries already recognise Palestine and the UN in 2012 elevated the state of the state of Palestine from ‘non-member observer entity’ to ‘non-member observer state’. Even more countries recognise the state of Israel, a full fledged member of the UN. So there are already two recognised states. If the objective of the two state solution is for there to be two states, it’s done. But nobody actually thinks that. They must not believe that the entity they aimed to recognise is actually a state. In any case, with all the talk of ‘reforming the PA’ and disarming Hamas, it’s clear that whatever Palestinian state they envisage will definitely not enjoy the right to self determination. (link to bureauofcounterpropaganda.substack.com) So nothing actually changes, one way or another. And in any case, now that Ambassador Huckabee has uttered the quiet part out loud, we know a Palestinian state in historic Palestine is off the table. (link to theguardian.com)

    Apart from that, under current circumstances, a call to recognise The State Of Palestine entails endorsing ethnic partition in principle and the state of Israel as a Jewish state in particular, as well as legitimising the quisling PA. (link to bureauofcounterpropaganda.substack.com)

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