51 thoughts on “IDF Murders 17 Gazans, Wounds 1,400 in Great Return March Protest

  1. Little to no attention in media, just a tiny detail …

    Jewish Bride Taken By Prophet Muhammad (pboh)

    Just a reminder for the Jewish tribes of the Arabian peninsula …

    “Our country doesn’t have a problem with Jews. Our Prophet Muhammad married a Jewish woman. Not just a friend—he married her.” [Source: Arabian Prince Salman interview with The Atlantic while traveling the New World – sightseeing new WTC building perhaps?]

    1. ‘Little to no attention in media, just a tiny detail …

      Jewish Bride Taken By Prophet Muhammad…’

      So are you celebrating the tolerance of Muhammed or protesting the defilement of Jewish womanhood?

  2. Thanks Richard for the excellent deconstruction of the odious IDF propaganda tweet, particularly the missing third panel about what the IDF brings to a peaceful demonstration. You nailed these hasbara bastards precisely. I wish this critique would appear in mainstream western media, but of course it won’t.

  3. …and evidently, Bernie Sanders has decided he won’t be running for President in 2020. At any rate, he certainly won’t be winning.

    ‘…Bernie Sanders has condemned the killings, in a tweet this afternoon.

    The killing of Palestinian demonstrators by Israeli forces in Gaza is tragic. It is the right of all people to protest for a better future without a violent response…’

    1. @ Colin WRight: Bernie’s tweet, while decent, was decidedly milquetoasty when it came to the Israeli siege of Gaza. He wrote that the U.S. should try to be helpful to Israel in ending the siege. What the hell does that even mean? My hunch is that it was written by his lib Zio Israel foreign policy staffer, Matt Duss.

  4. …and Israel formally agrees that for her, it’s normal to shoot down unarmed demonstrators.

    ‘Israeli minister rejects calls for investigation into Gaza killings, applauds army instead’

    In context, not a crime at all. I’m inclined to agree; accept Israel for what it is, and there’s no reason to even raise an eyebrow.

    Of course, I feel all commercial and diplomatic ties to Israel should be suspended. Pending the introduction of an egalitarian state, the sole form of permissible contact should be that airliners could go in empty and come out full.

    But no, I wouldn’t call Israel’s actions a crime. For Israel as it is currently constituted, this is normal behavior, and ‘crime,’ after all, is a term that is defined relative to the norms of a society. In the US, beef-eating isn’t a crime; in Israel, killing Palestinians isn’t a crime.

    I accept that. I understand completely.

    1. “the sole form of permissible contact should be that airliners could go in empty and come out full.”

      Like boxcars in, boxcars out, Colin?

      1. Assuming the boxcars went in empty, you’d have an analogy!

  5. ‘…Beyond me why RS keeps such a rabid anti-semite posted.’

    Okay. I’m an anti-semite — who lionizes Israel. Have I got this right?

  6. ‘“Seriously, guy…
    I think you need to learn how to use a dictionary or get a better one. The usage is correct’

    Amazing. So you’re seriously insisting that I’m an admiring and uncritical supporter of Israel, given to heaping it with unqualified praise?

  7. Re my point about how a critical distinction is that what may occur elsewhere but is a crime there is just mighty fine on Planet Israel.

    ‘Netanyahu Blasts Erdogan, Praises Israeli Army after Gaza Killings ‘

    Find the bit about Nixon praising the National Guard for shooting down the students at Kent State.

  8. This just in:

    ‘Rights groups slam Israeli ‘crimes’ in Gaza, say ‘shooting unarmed civilians illegal’ ‘

    ? Surely not if the killers are Israeli?

  9. RE: “. . . Trump administration Middle East policy has been hijacked by a pro-settler cabal run by Jared Kushner, David Friedman and Jason Greenblatt, all of whom offered generous financial support to settlements before they entered the White House. It’s ironic that they in particular have risen to such positions of influence in the Trump administration due to their sworn, ferocious allegiance to Trumps financial interests before he became president.” ~ R.S.

    MY COMMENT: Can you imagine the mountain of dirt Kushner, Friedman and Greenblatt must have on Donald Trump? Easily enough (not incuding any priviledged information) to put him in prison for the rest of his life, I would think.

  10. …and my entry for the prize video from Friday’s festival of murder.

    link to mobile.twitter.com

    An Israeli sniper shoots a Palestinian while he is praying.

    I suspect there isn’t one, but if there is, I wonder what God thinks of people who shoot people while they are praying?

    What does He think of people who support shooting people while they are praying? As I say, people support Israel as it actually is are beyond the Pale.

  11. ‘Not all of us can be native speakers.’

    Yeah, I regret some of that post, and I’d have edited it if I’d had the option — but ‘lionize’ when he means ‘vilify’? That was a bit much. Speaking for myself, I try to avoid using words if I don’t know what they mean.

    Then too, I feel little compunction about how I treat hasbarists. I try to be nice to anyone who lies within the Richard-you span — really, I do try. However, those who outright support Israel just as it is are another matter.

  12. It’s not God that is on the side of the Israelis, it is Satan and they are evil beyond redemption

    1. ‘It’s not God that is on the side of the Israelis, it is Satan and they are evil beyond redemption.’

      I have tried that line of reasoning with my personal Evangelical. Maybe ‘Israel’ is a perversion dreamed up by the anti-Christ? Isn’t he supposed to come before the actual Messiah and pervert his word?

      Theologically, it seems to fit the facts.

    2. Give me a break Linda: Most of them are just scared and brainwashed. Pure evil usually has little to do with people doing bad things. You can leave Satan out of this.

      1. ‘Give me a break Linda: Most of them are just scared and brainwashed. Pure evil usually has little to do with people doing bad things. You can leave Satan out of this.’

        It’s an interesting point, actually. Evil is at least conceptually meaningful — and sometimes Israel and Israelis seem to incarnate it.

        Often, words aren’t so much accurate or inaccurate as useful or not useful. For example, talking about ‘nations’ such as France and Germany in the context of the Middle Ages isn’t particularly useful; it becomes very useful if we’re discussing the late nineteenth to late twentieth century.

        I think ‘evil’ at least arguable starts to become a useful and valid paradigm when it comes to modern Israel. After all, let’s reverse your argument: in what sense is Israel NOT evil? Can’t evil be a reality, and Israel embody it?

      2. ‘Give me a break Linda: Most of them are just scared and brainwashed. Pure evil usually has little to do with people doing bad things. You can leave Satan out of this.’

        There’s another way of looking at this, too.

        Many people aren’t going to ‘leave Satan out of this.’ They’re going to insist on viewing Israel in religious, eschatological, millenial terms — as the site of Armageddon, the Messiah’s return, and so on.

        And in a way, they’ve got a point. After all, if it weren’t for all of that, Palestine would be of no more significance to anyone than Lebanon, or for that matter, Albania. The Zionists are there in the first place because of Palestine’s religious significance — else they’d have settled on a bit of South Australia.

        So okay — discuss it in their terms. And in their terms, I could see the modern state of Israel as embodying good, or as embodying evil.

        I’ll take evil — and I’ll try to convince them of that. The alternative is to leave them to pursue their millenial dream without you offering anything meaningful at all to counter it.

      3. Elisabeth: Agreed. All of the theological bashing about ‘Satan’ and ‘hell’ that thrives on both sides leaves me cold.

        1. ‘Elisabeth: Agreed. All of the theological bashing about ‘Satan’ and ‘hell’ that thrives on both sides leaves me cold.’

          However, a critical point is that the Satan and hell angle doesn’t leave others cold, and if you’re ever going to get anywhere, you’re going to have to address the conflict in their terms as well as yours.

          You can cite Israel’s crimes to an Evangelical until you’re blue in the face; as long as he’s convinced Israel’s a fulfillment of biblical prophesy, you’re not going to make much headway. Now, get him thinking that maybe the state that calls itself ‘Israel’ isn’t what Jehovah had in mind, and you’ve made progress.

          The most critical element in US support for Israel right now are the millions of Evangelicals who think it’s the fulfillment of God’s plan. That certainty has to be shaken if US support for Israel is to be undermined.

  13. ‘…Trump admires Jews like them because they fulfill all the Jewish stereotypes: they’re tough, they’re mean, they’re protect his money. In any other context, we’d call that anti-Semitism…’

    Oh I think you’re behind the times, Richard. Away with all that sensitivity and compassion and victimhood.

    The new UBERJEW is the MASTER. He wears big boots and stomps and stomps and stomps and stomps…

    It’s really pathetic — or would be, if it weren’t so evil. To think that a self-image could degenerate to something as shallow and vile as this. I mean, stand up for yourself — by all means. However, don’t deny your own humanity. Stormtroopers sweeping through the Ukraine isn’t ACTUALLY the apex of the human condition.

    This is one of those trains of thought that leads me to decide I’m better off being gentile. It’s bad enough bearing the responsibility for Israel that comes with being American. I’d hate to be Jewish to boot. Think of being literally related to the creatures that revel in it.

    1. ‘…Think of being literally related to the creatures that revel in it.’

      Sigh. It just dawned on me that I am related to ‘the creatures that revel in it.’

      Look at all those Evangelical Christians. They’re all for Israel — and the bloodier, the better.

  14. My. There’s a pleasant surprise. The Guardian — which I thought had long since been brought to heel — has actually gotten up on its hind legs.

    ‘Strip Mourns Dead after Protest is Met with Bullets.’

    Kind of sad this is actually noteworthy, but it is something.

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