29 thoughts on “Israeli Welfare Ministry, Foster Agencies, Traffic in Palestinian Children – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. Child welfare cases are nearly always convoluted, and the true facts, hard to discern.
    But Richard, seems to have all the answers.

    Sorry. I’m not buying this facile rendering.

    1. @ Barbar: I challenge you if you don’t buy my “facile rendering” do some detective work yourself. Get the agencies who refused the chance I offered to explain their side to do so.

      If you think I make stories up out of whole cloth or exaggerate, you don’t know the half of it. Try talking to women who’ve had their children stolen from them. You wouldn’t be singing the same tune, I assure you.

  2. Richard – you don’t mention where you got all the info from. The only link directly relatewd to the story is to the FB page which never even mention the Palestinian father.

    Also, can you please share your source of the 4000$ & 500$ figures you mention. While 500$ sounds like the least foster parents will get monthly which may not even cover all the expesnses, 4000$ for the agency sound like too much money and it will be interesting to see if it is true.

  3. The Israeli child welfare system could be improved obviously, though not everything is as bad as anti-child-welfare activists (e.g. Lori Shem-Tov) portray it to be. There will always be some families which don’t have basic fitness to raise a child and in whom a child is in danger.

    Regarding Palestinian children, if we accept that life under -occupation- (or the PA) is horrible and inhumane, then placement en-masse of these children in Jewish homes could be justified as this is in child’s interest to live a better life.

    1. @lepxii: Thanks for your appallingly racist noblesse oblige. But if indeed what you claim is true ( it isn’t) then why not remove all Palestinian children from their families? Indeed, Israel could be a Light unto the Nations by taking these poor children & offering them such wonderful opportunities for lives as Israeli Jews. And those who don’t find homes with Israeli Jewish families might be offered to familes around the world who can’t have children of their own. Israel could even reap a financial benefit by charging a “redemption fee.” Not to mention that this would substantially reduce the demographic threat posed by the exploding Palestinian birthrate.

      I tell you this is a win-win for al concerned. Even Pakestinian parents will come go realize hoe much netter off their children would be raised amidst culture & civilization, as opposed to backwardness & tribalism. And you deserve all the credit because you inspired this wonderful concept!!

      1. It is hard to imagine that lepxii is serious. Israel creates the horrible occupation then uses that to justify kidnapping children! It is the kid who murdered his parents and then defended himself claiming he is an orphan.

        What lepxii describes, on a national level, would be very close to Lebensborn, Himmler’s program for absconding with “aryan like” kids from other countries. and raising them as good Germans. From their own perspective, Germany also had a demographic problem.

        I do not think it is religion which dominates Israeli society, I think it is racism primarily. What thinking American could support this?

  4. @Richard

    The child welfare agencies have confidentiality restrictions, so they can’t comment on cases.
    The Nazareth Court, however, should have public records pertaining to the father’s suit.
    The courthouse is where you should go if you wish to present a more balanced, more informed story to your readers.

  5. @Mike Huler

    I’d love to comment on the facts, but only one side of the story, the mother’s, has been told.
    Do you not see that?

    1. @That is no fault of mine. I made numerous attempts to elicit the child welfare apparatus’ perspective. They have maintained stony silence. Why don’t you encourage them to reply? I’ll happily publish their response as I told them I would.

  6. lepxii.
    Israel has been committing genocide on the Palestinians ever since it was born. the only reason “the civilized world” does not shout this fact is because Israel is the darling of the US which is the thousand-pound Pit Bull that no country dares to face. The only reason Israel has this protection is because US Congress lives in the pockets of the pro-Israelis such as Adelman, Koch Brothers, AIPAC, ADL etc., etc., ad nauseaum.

    Were it not for these protections, Israel would probably not be the apartheid state devoted to rule for one religion (Judaism) and the destruction of others (Christianity and Islam). Here is the specific law in the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html):
    Article 2:
    •(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

  7. @lepxii

    “Regarding Palestinian children, if we accept that life under -occupation- (or the PA) is horrible and inhumane, then placement en-masse of these children in Jewish homes could be justified as this is in child’s interest to live a better life.”

    So you move a child to a dysfunctional family in an illegal settlement – in the occupied West Bank. Well that really helps – NOT.

  8. Re: “Borderline” – it’s not a young adult book.
    And it was not “banned,” either. Teachers can’t *assign* it for reading, but it’s on a list that students can choose from.
    (The reasoning behind taking it off the first list is indeed preposterous and goes against the very essence of literature. It is also, indeed, sadly reflective of the current atmosphere here.)

  9. @Lepxii

    Your logic baffled me. If you are convinced that life under occupation is so bad that it justifies taking children from parents living there you should go all out to condemn the occupation. Have you ever done so?

    I doubt it. Instead you seem to be advocating stealing those children away.

    At one stage Australia did similar things with half caste aboriginal children. This is now seen as a black page in its history for which a former Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, has officially apologised in parliament. The day we will see a similar scene in the Knesset seems miles away, if it ever arrives.

  10. jafar Siddiqui,
    If Israel has been performing genocide why is this conflict persisting and the “Palestinian people” increasing and multiplying? The facts do not support such a claim.
    Regarding child removal, this would of course be done, if at all, on a case by case basis and in accordance with the interests of the particular children, and not as a comprehensive policy. If a specific child is living in an unsafe environment (in which he is perhaps used as a illegal combatant and sent on offensive missions (pelting stones) against an armed army) then the child’s interest would be placement in a safe environment in which he isn’t in danger of bodily harm.

  11. @lepxii
    “If Israel has been performing genocide why is this conflict persisting and the “Palestinian people” increasing and multiplying? The facts do not support such a claim.”
    —— This is true.
    “Regarding child removal, this would of course be done, if at all, on a case by case basis and in accordance with the interests of the particular children, and not as a comprehensive policy. If a specific child is living in an unsafe environment (in which he is perhaps used as a illegal combatant and sent on offensive missions (pelting stones) against an armed army) then the child’s interest would be placement in a safe environment in which he isn’t in danger of bodily harm.”
    —— This is nuts. I had hoped you were kidding, but obviously not…

  12. Arie has said it all in response to Lepxii.
    Lepxii then throws in the kitchen sink by saying kids are recruited to throw stones at the gallant Israeli Army (which is then obliged to kill the of course!). You have obviously never lived under a hostile, toxic, occupation, the kids whose elders have been humiliated or killed or disappeared, do not need any encouragement to throw stones at Israeli tanks and trucks or even at soldiers.
    I would be most interested to know if you have applied the same “logic” to Jewish kids who throw stones at Palestinian kids and adults while under the watchful protection of adult Jews and soldiers? Should the Jewish children who are brought up under such hostile “education” be removed to the safety of perhaps, a loving Arab family in another country where they may be brought up as good Christians or Muslims?
    If it’s good for the gander…

    Istead of arguing from a point of total ignorance (or denial?), you should first read the convention (it is brief)…conceived, written and helped into adoption by a Jew (Rapael Lemkin) by the way. “Genocide” is not applicable only when there is a Shoah or a complete wiping out of a people, it can be on a very small scale as well. Read the convention and then tell me you are proud of what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
    As for thr reference to the Palestinians “multiplying”, You should be ashamed of yourself. Such references were also made about Jews and other people regarded as vermin by their oppressors.

  13. Curiously, the removal of half caste Aboriginal children, referred to by Arie, was also done “in accordance with the interests of the particular children”.

  14. Lepxii & Yaniv – not sure what environment you two talk about. The girl was raised for awhile by her mother and nobody suggested she she threw any rocks or was used by militants.
    In the Israeli system, all fathers are at a disadvantage when it comes to custody of children, even in cases of shared custody.

    The Facebook group of the mother doesn’t mention the father at all, not even once. I bet they would rather Adel to stay with her current parents than go to a Palestinian village.

  15. [Comment deleted: your comment is not only off topic but it repeats arguments you”ve already made here. Do not repeat arguments & do not stray from the topic of the post.]

  16. Richard – what is absolutely false? and what is your proof to it?
    Have you even spoken to either mother or grandmother? You are vague about it and don’t write how you learnt about the story. Did you hear of it from the father himself?

    Are you going to tell us or use the ‘confidential source’ card again?

    1. @ Arik: I had extensive conversations with Daniella and others involved in the case who I will not name. One of the things you don’t realize is that all the parties who spoke to me are in jeopardy. Social workers may use ANYTHING against a mother. Including the fact that she exposed elements of the case to me. Other sources who I spoke with face similar sorts of jeopardy. If you understood the autocratic nature of the child welfare system and how much mothers are under heel, you would not be so flippant.

      In fact, only a woman who is truly desperate would be willing to speak to me. She must believe she has nothing left to lose because all of any value has been stripped from her.

  17. If you want an Israeli misuse of power in regards to child welfare (not related to Muslim/Jewish issues) see this one –
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijrawZrkmwo

    the vice-mayor of Lod threatening a mother with child-welfare if she doesn’t remove a FB post.

    I wouldn’t say this is necessarily a strictly Israeli phenomena, but rather misuse of power by politicians and bureaucrats.

  18. I realized this article can put the family jeopardy, this is why I wondered where you got the information from.

    I wonder what Daniella thinks about your article, making her case into a matter of nationality and racism. So far she haven’t linked it on the Facebook group you mentioned above or her personal account.

    1. @ Arik: Would you like to know how many times she used the term “racist” & “racism” in our conversations? Not to mention that she thanked me profusely for my article. She is a woman whom the system has driven to desperation. She has no other hope. No other outlet. Every other hope & option is closed off to her.

      My post has been widely circulated in the very large community of mothers whose rights have been trampled by the child welfare system. I think I’ll accept their esteem rather than your dodgy guesses about Daniella disliking my work or refusing to acknowledge it. You have no idea how lame your vapid attempts are. Do you think I do these things on my own? That I invent cases to write about? Or that total strangers suggest stories to me about which they know nothing or no one? No, the principals come to me & ask for help.

      You realize the article can put which family in jeopardy? If you mean “Damri” then you’re a total idiot. He is one who got Daniella arrested & has the entire array of the State behind him. Who will harm him? Or do you believe I muster an army of readers ready to take up arms to right the wrongs about which I write??

  19. Chillax man.nobody referred to Damri, I haven’t even mentioned them. You are either paranoid or just looking for any reason to use the word idiot.

    BTW, do you have info about the latest gag order in Israel. Something to do with a person from Uvda investigation.

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