36 thoughts on “Israeli Justice: Blind, But Crooked as Well – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. The Channel 1 TV documentary looks like a melodramatic, tear jerking hatchet job. Too much pathos for my American sensibilities.

    BTW. We all know that nothing is going to happen to the driver.
    There may well have been an injustice right after the accident, but nothing will come of that either.

  2. Some forums in Israel report that she left to England.

    Most of the article is great but your comment “There was no mention of any blemish in the bride’s past” is troublesome. No one knew the case was closed b/c of crooks in the police and prosecution. So what? They should mention an accident in which she did nothing wrong? How cruel is that? Should we now remind everyone the misdeeds b/c they might have been exonerated unjustly?
    Some of your exposures are important (Hashem Sha’aban al-Sayyed for example) but others just seems to be some form of shaming.

    1. @James: “She did nothing wrong?” She killed a 16 yr old boy. And she wasn’t “exonerated.” The crime was barely investigated. As for shame, there’s much to go around in this case. Your comment is but one part of it.

      1. Closing the case was probably a crime in which Ruth David had a share. But are seriously you suggesting adding any past suspicion to a wedding announcement?
        This is recipe for a great society.

    1. According to that blog the case is no longer triable since 11.7.2015 as it has התישן (can’t remember the word in English)

      Maybe they can still bring a civil case?

        1. Not that I agree with it, however, in the US, there is a federal statute of limitations of 5 years for involuntary manslaughter – which is usually the charge for death caused by reckless driving.

          1. False. Just look up the case of Dori Calgsblad.
            Powerful attorney, vehicular manslaughter. 13 months in prison.

          2. @ Michael: So Israeli justice worked in one case. Shall we examine every case Ruth David prosecuted to determine how many hundreds of them were perverted by her corruption? The chief prosecutor of Tel Aviv. Not some assistant DA working in a cubicle. The top dog. Working with the other corrupt top dogs in the police.

          3. Seriously, you want to debate which political/justice system is more corrupt?

            Two minutes worth of “former judge / district attorney sentenced” yields thousands of hits.

            Do you really want to analyze white/non white “justice” in the US?

            Do you really want to analyze rich vs. poor justice in the US?

            Do you really believe a former president, PM, finance minister, mayors etc., would even be tried in the US for charges that they are brought to trial, sentenced and imprisoned for in Israel?

            Yes, corruption exists. It’s difficult to weed out. Just look at your own city.


          4. @ Michael: I don’t need to “debate” which system is more corrupt. It’s yours hands down. We have 365 million people in this country. You have 7 million. If we had 50 times the corruption & dysfunction Israel has we’d have long ago disintegrated into a miasmic mess of a country. As it is, we’re holding on pretty well. As for Israel, not so much.

          5. The US has a population of approximately 325 million not 365
            Israel has a population of 8.4 million not 7
            So the ratio is 1 to 38.5 and not 1 to 50.
            You have more than enough corruption and dysfunction of your own – and in your own city’s police department and public works department (your state appears to be doing fairly well).
            Most countries are a miasmic mess – it just depends how much involvement with “government” is actually required on a day to day basis.

  3. You know James, on some level it’s understandable that you get your panties in a bind over the things that Richard reports. Clearly you see the exposure of such information as being damaging to the security of the state. You’re wrong but I’m willing to concede that you come by your misconceptions honestly, what with all the Kool-Aide your quaffing. That being said, what’s the “national security interest” here? Furthermore what’s your vested interest in running interference for this pos? What? You pick up a stipend for blowing smoke up everyone’s ass? Lol

  4. Shoded Yam, you don’t need to be a christian to be able to forgive, not to mention, not to keep reminding a person of a past suspicion. This case should defiantly be re-examined and go to trial but between that and blaming the press for not mentioning a dismissed suspicion is a big difference.

    My post has nothing to do with security. Richards write that comments are for “education, ideas, humor, criticism–everything that makes up a full-throated discussion”.

    1. Listen, James. I’m a 51 year old man. Go sell the Mother Teresa shtick to the Birthright kids when they get off the plane at Ben Gurion, cause I’m not buying the shit that your shovelin’. So I ask again, what’s your interest in running defense for this woman?

      1. At what point did I defend her? I have clearly stated the opposite.
        I just don’t see what an accident of a family member has to do a profile article about the business.

        1. Tell me James? Why is it that everyone else in the room is holding their nose as if someone took a dump behind the sofa except you? What? You’re “hard of smelling”? Give it a rest Jimbo.

        2. A woman from a prominent family gets married who has killed a young man. That’s not worth mentioning?

          I just realized that it’s very possible the family and the media at the time didn’t even know she was the killer because the crooked authorities had done such a good job of buttoning the case down.

          1. Shoded Yam – stop misrepresenting my comments and for g-d sake, it is time you clean behind your sofa.

            Richard – what you are saying is “If someone killed but it was completely NOT his/her fault, society should still hunt them for the rest of their life”. At the time that article was written, this is how it was treated.

            AND… how cruel should the reporter be – “Shani got married to her love but let’s not forget she killed someone and as far as we know, it wasn’t her fault”.

          2. @ james: This is getting old. That was your last comment in this thread.

            Mentioning a criticial fact of someone’s life in the newspaper is not “hunting them.” It is called reporting. People do it all the time.

        1. No Jimmy, you’re confused. Not “comments misrepresented”, but comments “presented disingenuously”. Btw. That little tickle you feel in your backside, That’s my foot in your ass. Lol.

          1. This is very mature for a 51 years old. LOL
            Very disappointed it is your foot. I was hoping you started foreplay.

  5. “Richard Silverstein July 13, 2015, 12:15 PM
    The difference is that being rich in Israel will ALWAYS get you off. Not so in the U.S.”

    O.J. Simpson?
    Ethan Couch?
    Snoop Dog?

    1. I don’t know who Ethan Couch is nor do any other Americans. OJ Simpson’s case is infamous & a perfect example of justice failing & most Americans view it that way. I’m not arguing that American justice is pure. Just that it generally works far better than Israeli justice.

      1. These examples are of people whose trail was public and still managed to dodge the charges. It is much worse. Can you imagine what happens in backstage like in this case? How many cases are being dumped silently?
        The comparison in Israel would be Ehud Olmert but he gets what he deserves now!

        1. This again is just 1 example. Overall, the conviction rate is well over 99% in Israel Vs 65% – 80% in the USA.

          I just think it would be more appropriate to substantiate these claims with more that one example before making such a broad generalization, which prejudices the the Israeli justice system and the judges, lawyers and law enforcement individuals within it.

          As a Hebrew speaker I can attest that this case is raising lots of questions, not only about the formerly accused but also the parents of the deceased. There are contradictions in testimonies, that no one raised any objections to the outcome of the initial investigation, etc. There are also wider implications that if there was corruption many cases would have to be revisited so people are paying close attention to this.

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