Abusisi Story in Truthout
I’ve just published my first piece in Truthout, which is a comprehensive account of the Dirar Abusisi extraordinary rendition. This is the first account of its kind published anywhere outside the Ukraine (there have been previous earlier accounts by AP, the NY Times, and Der Spiegel which were less comprehensive and did not cover major elements of the story which may not have been known to the reporters).
As this is my first piece for Truthout, I hope you’ll read it, recommend it to friends, put it out via social networks, and comment freely in the threads. Thanks to Max Ajl, who offered me the name of the editor he’s worked with there.
Tomorrow, Josh Breiner will publish an interview he did with me for Walla, the Israeli online news portal. Link to follow…
UPDATE: For you Hebrew speakers, here it is. Please add a few positive comments in the Talkbacks if you can. So far I’ve been called mentally ill, and compared in my “love” for Israel to Adolph Hitler’s.
A friend posted a link to this interview at the far-right Rotter forum and this comment is the highest praise I could imagine, especially coming from someone who probably dislikes my politics intensely:
Just between us, we all rely on him to find out what’s hidden behind these gags.
And that, in a nutshell, is why I do this.
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i am from israel
i am very proud of my cantry
i hope one day u wiil anderstend that the arabs dont like u and dont like me or the american people/
if thay have the possibility thay will kills as boot.
have חג פסח שמח
אם נשאר לך שמץ מהיותך יהודי
Oren, I hope one day you will understand that things are not that simple. In the middle ages and even not so long ago, when Jews were hated and persecuted by the Europeans and the English (the ancestors of present-day Americans), the Jews in Moslim countries enjoyed relative freedom and prosperity. In Moslim Spain, Jews collaborated with Arab scholars in translating Aristoteles and other great Greek and Arab men of learning from Arabic into Latin, essentially saving them for the Western civilization.
They had and still have plenty of possibilities to kill us all over the world, but they don’t.
So Arabs do not inherently hate us. What they hate is their treatment and humiliation at the hands of American, Israeli and Arab elites. Have a good Pesakh!
I read the interview,nicely done!
i wanted to say that i appreciate your great and important work, and i hope that you’ll keep up (even though i don’t agree with all of your sayings).
Thank you very much,
i don’t know why you congratulate yourself about.
you are working with people whose description is “a snitch”.
you mix your political views, and those snitches have the same views.
you trample the security of israel, and you consider yourself a truthspeaker ?
are you realy that naive ?
do you realy think that any secret is worth discovering ?
you are not pro israeli, at most you are to the hamas and co. a “usefull fool”, as lenin called your kind.
Then your defintion of “journalist” is someone who “snitches?” If so, that wouldn’t be mine. You may not attribute much value to investigative journalism. But I do.
As for the rest of yr commment. Please don’t make me laugh…
Guy, please give concrete examples how Richard’s reporting jeopardizes Israel’s security.
אני לא מבין איך יהודי שיושב בגלות מרשה לעצמו להשתלח במדינת היהודים.
למה אתה לא עוסק במדיניות הנפשעת של ארצות הברית באפגניסטן ובעירק
אין לך שום זכות לעשות את אשר אתה עושה אם אתה רוצה להיות מעורב בנעשה במדינת ישראל תעשה עליה ותגור בשדרות או על גבול הלבנון ואולי שם יכנס קצת שכל למוח המעוות שלך
יש מספיק שונאי ישראל בין הגויים הם ממש לא צריכים חיזוק מבית
BTW, the “State of the Jews” also happens to be the state of over 1 million Palestinians who are citizens of that state. You seem to have forgotten this.
As for what I don’t engage with U.S. policy in Afghanistan or Iraq, you’re only the 40th commenter to attempt to make this argument. It got stale somewhere around the 5th or 6th time someone attempted to use it. By now, it puts me to sleep.
It amazes me that more than 1 person can attempt to make the lame claim that any criticism I offer of Israeli policies is treif because I don’t make aliyah. I thought that hoary old Zionist gem had gone the way of the dinosaurs.
המדיניות הנפשעת של ארה”ב היא בעיה בפני עצמה אך איננה מורידה מחומרתה של מדיניות ישראל. אינך יכול להציב תנאים לביקורת, אחרת לעולם לא תוכל לבקר אף מדינה.
אני יהודי שחי בארץ מלידה ואני רואה הרבה דברים שראויים לביקורת מבית ומבחוץ. תאר לך מצב בו גרמניה הנאצית (אינני משווה בין המדינות, חס וחלילה) הייתה טוענת שאין לעולם זכות להשתלח במדיניות שלה עד שהמבקר לא יעבור לשטחי הרייך.
I read both links.
despite the difference of opinions, the “welcome” you received in the walla talk-backs was really disgusting, uncalled for and uncivilized.
Maybe you will be disgust enough with such comments, directed at you, and you would tone down the harsh words you are directing towards what seems to be Israel commenter’s on your blog (calling someone drek, hasbaratist, liar, ignorant and few other pearls).
You can’t preach for a free of insults debate ding what you doing, and i think that the debate within the jewish community should be a real debate, but should remain of a civilized nature.
Ben: The article (in Hebrew) Specifically mentioned that Richard is from the extreme-left side of the political map. Most of the Israeli people don’t like the extreme-left (and there’s a simple proof in numbers: See how many votes Meretz is getting every election. Each election, the numbers goes down in big steps), so naturally Richard got this “welcome”.
Richard: I added your blog to my RSS feed. I’m from the right side of the political map here in Israel and I’ll be happy to read your post and if possible – reply to them.
As for the Abu Sisi case: I’m pretty sure that the agency (I guess the Mossad?) who kidnapped him had some very convincing evidence before he was kidnapped. I’m sure that Abu Sisi’s defence lawyers will have access to the information as will the judge and the prosecution. We have a system here and Abu Sisi could appeal to a higher court if he’ll have issues with the verdict (after he’ll be in trial).
I am NOT from the “extreme-left” & this was the only statement in the interview I disagreed with. The interviewer also called me “liberal,” which I feel much more comfortable with. My views are not that radical in an Israeli context & as time goes one they will become less & less so. I don’t support Meretz.
First, the Mossad had no convincing evidence because the indictment’s “evidence” is threadbare & embarrassing. Read the extensive posts I devoted to analyzing & critiquing the indictment. IT was a pathetic document. Why is it that so many Israelis say “the Shabak/Mossad must have convincing evidence or they wouldn’t have done x or y?” Why do you trust things based on blind faith? And no, lawyers do not have access to the evidence unless the victim refuses to plead to a lesser charge & demands a trial. In which case he is guaranteed of a life sentence or something close to it. You have a perverted security-obsessed judicial system, not a real process that honors due process or the concept of innocent till proven guilty. Security suspects are guilty, period.
I almost choked on my orange juice when I read that… are you for real? Not only are you considered extreme, you’re considered the extreme of the extreme. To say otherwise is to lie to yourself and others.
I’m sorry to say that as an Israeli I see the exact opposite happening.
I am getting increasingly uncomfortable with the way that the peace and justice movement in Palestine/Israel is always tied up with the political left. I don’t think it helps to make it sound as though this is a leftist enterprise, as that may just alienate huge groups of people: they won’t consider what we’re saying because they hold prejudices about what it means to be left-wing, and they don’t want to be considered lefty.
When I came through the checkpoint last week there was a teenager crammed into the cage-like tunnel that leads into the building, pressed on all sides by people. There was at least an hour’s wait to go through and he was feverish. Waiting in the heat wasn’t doing him any good. I tried to pass my water flask to him, but it wouldn’t fit through the bars. His mum explained that they couldn’t turn back; their permit for Jerusalem was only valid for that day. So I went to get a soldier. He listened. He told me that I could get the family out of the tunnel and bring them to the tourists’ turnstile, and he would see that they got through OK. I did this, and when we arrived in the second half of the machsom, I found that the soldier had filled a cup of water and even rooted out a squashed box of paracetamol.
I wasn’t about to go handing him a medal for that (in the rest of the world it’s just common decency, and it’s a sign of occupation’s awfulness that here it passes for something extraordinary). But it made me think. That soldier and I do not see eye to eye politically; two minutes of conversation revealed that. He believes that he is doing something essential for national security by working in that hell-hole. At the same time he had just done something compassionate – small, but compassionate – and I can work with that. I don’t need to know somebody’s political affiliation before I say to them, “Here is a sick child; can we do something?” Once we have helped the child, I might be able to say, “This is activism for Palestine. Do you realise it?” I can reach them in a way that I could never manage if I tried to do it through political debate.
On the other side of the coin, it’s possible to be a card-carrying leftist and do nothing good for justice at all. I’ve attended several intercultural events here, organised by left-wing Jews, and most of them have made me uneasy – the conversation is dominated by those same left-wing Jews, who tell Palestinians how much they care about them while the Palestinians sit there silent. When Palestinians try to speak about things that matter to them, they are met with defensiveness, or faux solidarity – let’s-all-criticise-the-Israeli-right-together. But nothing useful. Headache pills and water and an ability to listen to a request for help are more useful than that.
I’m less interested in political identity now; I’m interested in how compassionate an individual person has it in him/her to be, and I’m prepared to be surprised on that. I’m also hoping that such an approach might be enough to halt or at least slow the societal hift to the right, which in itself tends to be a defensive herd reaction.
Listen to what the self-described smolani (leftist) has to say smearing someone else who truly is on the left. What true leftist would do such a thing? Shai, change your blog URL so it doesn’t embarrass the Israeli left.
If my views were as extreme as you claim no Israeli publication or media outlet would have any interest in writing about them.
I wholeheartedly agree that political affiliation can and does cause alienation. But these are undeniable facts. The peace and justice movement is aligned with the left in Israel.
I’m sorry you feel offended but I’m only saying what is true. I feel bad about it just as you do but it is the reality. Also your attempts to ridicule my blog are getting old… you should seriously stop taking everything so personally.
It’s not necessarily a bad thing to be considered extreme, Richard. 🙂 After all, Martin Luther King encouraged his supporters to embrace the word: “[T]he question is not whether we will be extremist but what kind of extremist will we be. Will we be extremists for hate or will we be extremists for love? Will we be extremists for the preservation of injustice – or will we be extremists for the cause of justice?”
A few days ago I went to a seder and overheard my host saying to someone I’d never met before, “Oh, you should talk to Vicky, you two would get along, her politics are really radical!” I still can’t get used to this description (radical by whose standards? I vote Liberal Democrat, for crying out loud! What sort of self-respecting radical does that?!) but I no longer argue. The Israeli political spectrum does seem to be skewed to the right, and what passes for centrist in the UK is left-wing here.
Shai, you misunderstand me slightly. I realise that the peace and justice movement here is powered by people who are left-wing. I haven’t met any Likud voters strolling the streets of Bethlehem recently. 🙂 My point is that it doesn’t have to be this way – you can get people who identify as centrist or rightist to perform acts of justice, without them realising that this is even what they’re doing. Say ‘activism’ and people imagine a bunch of left-wingers marching through Bi’lin; phrase it as a request for water and they see it as something they can give. Over time, perhaps this will affect their political and social worldview for the better.
I’m sorry, but David Wilder is drek & will always be called so. I do not call anyone else by that name except him. And if you think that because someone threatens my life in a Walla talkback that this means I should be nice to people w. whom I disagree here, well that doesn’t quite compute. I have NEVER threatened anyone or wished anyone dead here. If you don’t understand the diff. bet. my words & theirs then I guess I can’t help you.
you can tell yourself all day and night to you are doing noble work.
but you’re not.
you’re taking things out of context, you recklessly endanger the security of israel.
your views are here are not those of an observer, but those of a politically (perhaps socially) motivated persona.
far away in the USA you endanger the security of israel, the same security that is compromised by hamas.
this guy was kidnapped, i don’t know exactly why.
maybe it was a mistake maybe not, but the decision to take him was based on security, not a whim.
you ignroe that.
you’re not noble, you’re a snitch.
How would you know & on what informed basis do you make this judgment? You have no basis other than blind faith & that’s precisely what I’m saying the Shabak doesn’t deserve, nor does any security service in any nation. No blind faith. But rather faith based on evidence & transparency to the greatest extent possible.
Guy, please be concrete on how Richard’s reporting endangers Israel security.
By your logic, if a relative of yours is mistakenly kidnapped by, say, a European secret service, is held captive without access to a lawyer for weeks without any charges, without access to family members and children, treated the way that in many countries is considered torture and then present charges based on little more than forced confession, would you then say that such treatment is justified because it is done out of security concerns? Would you call a journalist who attempts to investigate the matter and help your afflicted relative a “snitch” and accuse them of endangering the security of the European country in question? I hope you can honestly answer these questions.
not specific endanger on THIS case.
but having sources the way he describes them, means journalists (that’s at least how i understand this) who pass to him information they themselves are getting in less than “normal” methods.
he gets (being fed realy) what they want him to get.
he publishes it.
that’s not serious.
as for the issue of “example”, and i answer richard as well :
you and people like you attribute the worst reasons all the time.
me, i know that i don’t know enough to judge, if he was kidnapped i’d like to think that whoever made the decision had sound reasons to do such a thing (i’ll remind you, by working along with ukraine gov. and risking much on international area).
so when he writes this (and btw, there was nothing new in what he wrote, not even an alternative “truth”) he basically puts israel to trial, and he has no tools to do that.
to me it’s endangering israel.
and a more concrete for you, is his “publishing” of a secret israeli base, if that is true, then you have what you asked about.
1. you didn’t answer my questions about the hypothetical situation of a relative being kidnapped by a foreign secret service.
2. Richard is an investigative reporter. He reports stories that others cannot or will not report under the government gag orders. He uses all the sources available to him. He goes on further to search the Internet, translate from foreign languages, talk to family members and other people involved. If that’s not serious, than no other reporting in the media is serious either.
3. you’d like to think that the kidnappers had sound reasons. By the same logic, you probably like to think that Hamas and Hizbollah have sound reasons to target Israeli civillians, etc., right? This logic is absurd.
There is little risk of International condemnation for Israel so far. Ukraine denies everything, but doesn’t challenge Israel. Virtually nobody knows about this case outside Israel, because it is not being reported in truly mass media. And the big brother (the US) will always lend a helping hand if need be, be it openly like in the UN Security Council or behind the scenes.
“he basically puts Israel to trial.” In other words, you mean Israeli special services can do whatever they want anywhere in the world without any accountability, and whoever reports on this, trying to bring them to account, puts Israel to trial? Ever wondered if Israel may be endangering itself by engaging in illegal practices and harassing the Arab population in and outside its borders?
6. What secret base do you mean?
leonard, why would israelis be kidnapped by foreign intel. orgs ?
are israelis intentionally endanger other countries ?
if what israel claims about abu sisi is correct, than he intended to hurt israel (directly or in the long term), do you realy compare the two situations ?
there was an israeli former colonel who has a warrent for his arrest from columbia.
if he is handed over i won’t lose sleep, because he allegedly helped drug lords.
do you see the difference between law and terror ?
richard is NOT an investigative reporter.
he is a funnel for information from israeli journalists (or other sources in israel) who want to bypass gag orders or censorship.
israel is not hizballa and not hamas, if i need to explain that, then this whole exchange is pointless.
if you compare the methods of the two, you are so far on the left, that talking to you is an excerise in futility.
and no, israeli secret services have to follow orders, they have come under the eye of the supreme court and have been following the directives made since then.
don’t go into “srael can do what it wants”, because that’s not the case.
the secret base is a story richard silverstein put here.
You can’t be serious. After the violations of national sovereignty & thefts of individual passports by Mossad which endangered the lives of numerous dual nationals you ask whether Israel intentionally endangered other countries? Germany, Ireland, Australia, Britain, Dubai. A number of them have expelled Mossad station chiefs for doing precisely what you claim Israel has not done.
“If” what Israel claims about Abubisi is correct. This is the 2nd time you’ve used that conditional. You have absolutely no proof that this is true while I’ve presented convincing evidence it’s likely NOT true. Shabak does not follow “law.” THey violated international law when they kidnapped Abusisi. Shabak respects no laws except those convenient to it.
It terms of national security issues, Israel isn’t far different. The only diff. is that it is a national gov’t & they are political movements. If you dislike the comparison tell yr gov’t to obey international law. Then it will have no reason for being compared.
The Supreme Court hardly monitors the security services & exercises wide latitude in security matters. You’re both naive & ignorant in the extreme. Shabak can do virtually whatever it wants & does so.
I agree that our discussion looks almost pointless. I’ll give it another (maybe last) try.
1. “are israelis intentionally endanger other countries?”
Israelis intentionally endanger security of palestinian people in the Occupied Territories. This is extensively documented in numerous sources. I don’t know about other countries. There was the Lavon affair: “As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, “unspecified malcontents” or “local nationalists” with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt’s Suez Canal zone. The operation caused no casualties, except for the members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured. … the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident…. In March 2005, Israel publicly honored the surviving operatives, and President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.”
Operations like this one endanger security of other countries and that of Israel itself.
Further, Israel bombed nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria, and was most likely involved in infecting the Bushehr nuclear plant in Iran with a computer worm. From Syrian and Iranian standpoint, this endangers their security, so if they follow your logic, you’ll find it justifiable if they kidnap Israelis on foreign soil, right?
2. “if what israel claims about abu sisi is correct …” And if it’s not correct? There is no independent evidence as to any of the allegations against Abusisi. Why do you chose to blindly believe them?
3. “Do you see the difference between law and terror?” Terror is what one often chooses to call the actions of one’s enimies. Tell me: operation Cast Lead that killed hundreds children in Gaza – is it not an act of terror? Lehi’s bombing of the King David hotel, organized by Menachem Begin, or the killing of Count Folke Bernadotte, who saved many Jews during the WWII, sanctioned by Itzhak Shamir, are these not acts of terror? Yet these terrorists went on to become prime ministers of the State of Israel.
4. You may call Richard what you want. I choose to look at the facts and arguments he presents.
5. “israel is not hizballa and not hamas”. Yeah, thanks for pointing out the obvious. Reciprocally, I am sure you will condemn Lehi, Stern’s gang, Ben Gurion, Begin, Shamir, Baruch Goldstein, Yigal Amir, etc for the attrocities they perpetrated in the name of the Jewish people.
6. “and no, israeli secret services have to follow orders, they have come under the eye of the supreme court and have been following the directives made since then”. Ok, whose orders do they follow? By kidnapping Abusisi, which directive of the Supreme Court do they follow?
7. I still don’t know what secret base you’re talking about. Be concrete.
Have a good day!
My sources get their information from credible political sources just like any Israeli reporter might. Information doesn’t come from “less than normal” methods unless you’re saying that a garden variety leak that happens scores of times a day or week inside Israel constitutes “less than normal methods.”
I have no idea what you can possibly mean by being “fed” information. Are you implying that the person “feeding” me information is betraying Israeli interests? That would be beyond absurd. I don’t get “fed” anything by anyone. I have free will and the ability to research any information offered to me. I check & double check to be sure what I’m “fed” is correct & accurate. If I don’t trust the information I don’t report it. If I do, I do report. And in the vast majority of cases I (or my sources) am right.
As for whether my work is “serious” I’d posit that Truthout & Walla (the most popular website in Israel) have better things to do than publish work by someone who isn’t “serious.” They appear to have a serious disagreement w. you on that score. It also appears another reporter for a major Israeli paper may be interviewing me as well. He too appears to want to waste time with someone who is “unserious.”
I’d like to think that too. Most of us want to believe that our gov’t acts in ways that are transparent & fair. But unlike you I’m not willing to leave things like this to chance or the secret police.
Nothing new in what I wrote? Are you daft? Why do you come here then? To rehash old news? Tell me where in Israel you can read what I reported in Truthout? I don’t put “Israel” on trial. I put Israel’s intelligence services & political leadership “on trial” if I put anyone on trial. That is far diff. than what you stated. This doesn’t endanger Israel unless you make the mistake of thinking “l’etat c’est moi.” Last I checked Tamir Pardo & Yoram Cohen weren’t named Louis XIV & had no royal prerogatives that would make anyone confuse them with the State itself.
A secret Israeli base? I’ve reported on several so you’ll have to be specific (S’dot Micha, Unit 8200, etc.). But every Israeli base I’ve reported is well known to most Israelis. The fact that such bases are “secret” is meaningless & I have no idea who they’re protecting by labelling them so.
the story was revealed in full in israel, i don’t know if you had the story before or after (i don’t remember the exact date).
when i say “nothing new” i mean that you didn’t report anything that was not reported in israel.
you just acted as a conduit of information, this isn’t investigative reporting.
you were FED infromation that israeli journalists wanted you to have, so they can go around the gag order.
in a nutshell (to qoute you) that is all you did.
you were a method of going around a gag order.
and gag orders, to paranoids like (you ?) some people, are a way to hide the TRUTH, as if this is aliens and the x-files, where as those who put the gag orders are following protocolls based on israel’s defense.
you are a walking danger, you think you speak the truth, you’re just a tool for the israeli journalists.
get real, will you ?
The story was NOT revealed in full. Israeli reporters have told me they cannot report on the Jordanian detention or how Abusisi arrived in Israel. You only know half the things in my article because I wrote it & researched it. Much of that material has NOT been reported in Israel. The fraudulent information in the indictment hasn’t been reported by anyone either as no Israeli media so far will dare to face down the Shabak in such a bald-faced way. So you’re wrong again & either you haven’t read my article or you can’t read or you’re simply lying.
Reporters receive information from sources every day & the best reporters have the best sources. Israeli reporters have been passing information to foreign journalists to bypass gag orders for decades. I’m so tired of you who have no background in journalism opining on the quality of my work. It’s simply tiresome & irrelevant. Get on to a new subject & stop repeating yrself. That’s not a request either. Do it.
Those who instituted the gag order did so entirely arbitrarily with no consideration to Israel’s real national defense & what truly might harm Israel’s security.
The only one who is the danger here is you who believe that journalists rather than the secret police endanger Israel’s security. You’re a danger to your own country’s democracy. But you’re not alone. Unfortunately there are many Israelis who buy this hook, line & sinker.
Correction to my talkback: he wasn’t kidnapped, it was a cooperation between Israel and Ukraine.
No, your statement is flatly wrong. He was kidnapped. Period. Just because 2 nations collude to kidnap a citizen of a third country doesn’t make it legal. It’s still a kidnapping. Still a violation of the laws of the country where the crime happened & international law. And Israel & Ukraine will eventually pay a heavy cost for these perversions of law & due process.
So, Hetz, if a relative of yours is kidnapped by a foreign secret service in illegal cooperation with the host country’s corrupt secret service, you’ll say it’s ok, it’s just cooperation between the two countries, right?
The Israelis went to quite a bit of effort to grab this guy and they think that they had a reason.
…….”According to the indictment, Abu Sisi received his doctorate at the Kharkov Military Engineering Academy in Kharkov, Ukraine, and studied under Prof. Konstantin Petrovich, an expert in SCUD missile control systems. During his studies, Abu Sisi acquired extensive knowledge in missile development, control systems, propulsion and stabilization.”
I know, I’ve already written posts analyzing all of the inanities in the indictment. Rather than repeat what I’ve already posted here why don’t you look up the post I wrote about it & read what I wrote. The indictment is a tissue of nonsense. The military academy referred to in the indictment ceased to exist in 1992 & Abusisi didn’t get his degree until 1992. The only professor with a name that comes close to the one in the indictment didn’t start teaching at the institute until 2004 while Abusisi was long graduated by then.
What happened to that good reason Shabak had for kidnapping Abusisi??
Fuster, indeed, please read Richard’s posts on this issue. A simple check (if you speak Russian) of Abusisi’s diploma and the abstract of his Ph.D. thesis reveals that this is all bullshit. He never went to the Military academy, his Ph.D. is from a different institution and on a topic that has nothing to do with any military technology and everything to do with municipal power supply. Prof. Konstantin Petrovich Vlasov was teaching at the Kharkov Academy of Municipal Economyd, where Abusisi studied at the time, and had nothing to do with any military programmes. There are many other caveats, like for example, knowing the Soviet system, a foreign student wouldn’t even closely be allowed to access any classified information relating to military technology.
Probably, as Richard points out, Abusisi just invented the story in prison so that Shabak stop abusing him any further.
Presumably Richard you respect the rulings of the courts in Israel…knowing how truely independent they are.
If they find him guilty will you accept that he was part of an enterprise that targets jewish civilians?
Why don’t you spend some time reading my views on the subjects you’re asked about before wasting my time explaining my views on a subject I’ve written thousands of words about. Israeli justice related to security cases is abysmal. No such thing as due process or innocent till proven guilty. I don’t accept Abusisi is guilty until & unless they release the evidence used to charge & convict him. And they won’t.
I’ve been following your posts on this story. Can you tell us why you apparently now believe the “Petrovich” of the indictment refers to Barakhov Konstantin Petrovich rather than Konstantin Petrovich Vlasov? See your post titled “SHABAK CHARGES AGAINST ABUSISI FURTHER DEBUNKED” for the distinction between the two individuals.
Let me add that it would be enlightening to learn the entire career background and published papers of Konstantin Petrovich Vlasov. Did he ever work on military applications of systems engineering? Was he involved in the SCUD program?
No, he has no background that I know of in any of these fields. His academic field is mathematics.
@chas, I couldn’t find a complete list of his publications on the net. Everything I could find refers to electrical power supply. You can try to contact his Department of Urban Supply: http://www.ksame.kharkov.ua/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=221
They might be able to help you.
Richard, I don’t know how you can deal with the barrage of negativity spewed at you all the time. It’d affect me in terrible ways. After reading all the hate and ignorant stuff yesterday in the comments threads, I got so upset and negative myself that in my mind I’d get mad at people in traffic and on the street for no reason. I wish you strength in dealing with that.
If I may ask you, please, as far as possible, refrain from personal attacks on people, this may only make things worse and turn them further away from your reporting. But please do go on refuting their views, arguments and claims and presenting your research and theories.