10 thoughts on “The FBI and the Terrorists Among Us – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. This is a lingering obscenity of 8 years of judicial and law enforcement criminally conducted by the FBI and courts during the Bush administration. This case like practically all before it will wind up in hung juries, acquittals or appeals. The new regime will probably stop these criminal practices, but unfortunately for those currently entrapped or falsely charged their cases have to play out in the legal system.

    1. The Sears Tower knuckleheads were convicted, and that case was even flimsier than this one. There is no reason to think these guys won’t go to prison for something or other. That seems to be the way these new terrorist prosecutions are going. No one is acquitted, they’re all convicted under the umbrella law of “giving material support”. With Obama flip-flopping all over the place regarding the prosecution of so-called terrorists, anything can happen and there is no evidence showing he will change these arbitrary prosecution procedures for the better. The FBI definitely needs to be put on a tighter leash and should not be allowed carte blanche in how it operates “in the field”. If this case isn’t entrapment, I don’t know what is.

  2. It’s more than a double standard between Jewish and Muslim groups Richard. The Jewish groups have gone way out of their way to actually criminalize Muslim groups, get their tax exemptions pulled, their assets frozen and their principals indicted and jailed. And they’ve been quite successful.

    The Daniel Pipes lawfare conference that Specter was recently shamed into not attending was a thin cover for “tort reform” pushed in Congress to prohibit Muslims from pursuing libel suits against neocon lies about Islam and Muslims. Juxtaposed against sweeping worldwide anti-semitism laws which prohibit and criminalize even truthful criticism against Jews and Judaism, the hypocrisy is breathtaking.

  3. Thanks for this, I blogged on this also, and was also disturbed. I think we should follow this case further to ascertain all the facts.

  4. RE: “In their view, what’s permissible and even laudatory for American Jews becomes suspect when it comes to American Muslims. Such a double standard is hypocritical and deeply unfair.”

    2. Highly Compartmentalized Minds
    As I said earlier, authoritarians’ ideas are poorly integrated with one another. It’s as if each idea is stored in a file that can be called up and used when the authoritarian wishes, even though another of his ideas–stored in a different file–basically contradicts it….

    3. Double Standards
    When your ideas live independent lives from one another it is pretty easy to use double standards in your judgments. You simply call up the idea that will justify (afterwards) what you’ve decided to do. High RWAs seem to get up in the morning and gulp down a whole jar of “Rationalization Pills.”…..

    4. Hypocrisy
    You can also, unfortunately, find a considerable amount of hypocrisy in high RWAs’ [Right-Wing Authoritarians’] behavior. For example, the leaders of authoritarian movements sometimes accuse their opponents of being anti-democratic and anti-free speech when the latter protest against various books, movies, speakers, teachers and so on. They say leftists impose restrictions for “political correctness.”…..

    ABOVE EXCERPTS FROM: “The Authoritarians” (261 pages), by Bob Altemeyer, Department of Psychology, University of Manitoba

    FREE PDF DOWNLOAD – http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
    ALTERNATE SITE – http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

  5. I hope they lock up these degenerates for the rest of their lives. The FBI have them on videotape planting what they thought was a bomb meant to kill Jews and any other Americans in the vicinity.
    Good work by the FBI.
    CAIR is not just a Civil Rights organization. Not with members like Randall Royer civil rights coordinator, Ghassan Elashi founder of Cair’s Texas chapter, Bassem Khafagi community relations director, Rabih Haddad Cair fund raiser, all convicted of terrorism related crimes.
    This is an organization that Steve Pomerantz former FBI head of counter terrorism stated: “Cair, it’s leaders and it’s activities effectively give aid to international terrorist groups.”

    1. You’re little more than a propagandist. These individuals are innocent till proven guilty. Calling them “degenerates” is disgusting and ad hominem besides. Plus I simply don’t believe anything you say barring evidence. Your future comments will be moderated.

      As for CAIR, I dare you to prove that ANY of its employees have been convicted of “terrorism related crimes.” A mere claim by you that something is true fails the credibility test sans proof. I have no idea who Steve Pomerantz is & I’ve followed this issues for several yrs. quite closely & certainly don’t believe a thing you claim unless you can provide evidence to back it up.

  6. Julian – I believe it was you who challenged the idea that there was wide-spread support for a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Israel-Palestine. Consequently, it is no surprise that you view others as ‘degenerates’ – a word meaning “to fall below a normal or desirable level in physical, mental, or moral qualities.” In order to deny reality as you do, one must be able to dehumanize others, to sustain the idea that they are ‘other’ than oneself. Usually, that happens when one doesn’t consider oneself quite up to the norm.

    Under any circumstances, such an attitude toward others is offensive to others; when it results in a desire to eliminate the ‘other,’ it is something to be opposed.

  7. Once again I prove you wrong. Here is your CAIR member convicted of terrorism related charges: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghassan_Elashi
    “Ghassan Elashi was a founder of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF), and was a member of the founding board of directors of the Texas branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Elashi was also vice president of InfoCom Corporation of Richardson, Texas, indicted along with Hamas terrorist Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook.[1] InfoCom, an Internet company shared personnel, office space, and board members with the HLF. The two organizations were formed in California around the same time, and both received seed money from Hamas leader Marzook.[2] Elashi was arrested in December 2002 for conspiracy, money laundering, and dealing in the property of a designated terrorist. In 2005, Elashi and two of his brothers were convicted on 21 counts of federal terrorism charges related to funding Hamas and the illegal export of electronics equipment to U.S. State Department-designated state sponsors of terrorism.[3]
    Also the FBI has cut ties with CAIR, due to it’s ties to terrorism.”
    Read the article. Maybe Fox News is lying?
    You had no problem making unproven accusations against innocent people like Rosen and Weissman because you don’t like their politics, yet jump to the defense of career criminals arrested for terrorism. These convicted felons are not degenerates? What would you call them good citizens?

    1. These convicted felons are not degenerates?

      That’s the 2nd time you’ve called Muslims degenerates. You’ve twice violated my comment rules & have lost yr comment privileges.

      As to yr charges, the conviction you mention for Elashi is under appeal. I wouldn’t expect you to note that since you’re a legal ignoramus and avowed anti-Muslim propgandist.

      Therefore he is NOT a felon since he has not yet served any jail time. Since the Bush gov’t failed to convict on the 1st attempt & the evidence is unbelievably flimsy, I’m firmly convinced the matter will be overturned on appeal. I also note the Bush judicial venue was in the Houston suburbs, Bush ancestral territory & one of the most conservative districts in the country. Next, Elashi was a board member of a LOCAL CHAPTER of CAIR, not the national organization. Do you have any evidence that any national leader or staff of CAIR has been convicted? Unlike you, I don’t blame an entire organization for the actions of a board member of a local chapter (& that’s assuming Elashi did anything wrong, which will be adjudicated on appeal).

      Just because the FBI suspended contact with CAIR means very little to me. The FBI has done lots of stupid things in its day. This very well could be one of them.

      You neglect to mention that after the FBI severed formal contacts with CAIR that the entire American Muslim community did the same to the FBI. Not that you’d care since you think the whole bunch of ’em should be thrown in a concentration camp I imagine.

      career criminals arrested for terrorism

      You mean career criminals entrapped by the FBI into alleged acts of terror. Since you understand and value our constitution, I’m sure you wouldn’t want to convict them before they’ve even been tried…Or would you?

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