7 thoughts on “Obama, Bibi Meet–Earth Doesn’t Move – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. You expect vastly too much…too soon. Obama is not yet done getting all his ducks in a row with his pending speech to the Arab world, personal confabs with Mubarak and Abbas, let alone an Iranian election that will inform him where he stands exactly with Tehran.

    You also make too much of this character Ross, who may just as likely be a witless cipher into the Israeli Lobby and Tel Aviv. And Obama had not promised ‘military action’ at the end of the year. He clearly stated and affirmed that the policy of dialog will be “reviewed” at that time. I would also say its not a bad idea to remind the Persians Obama’s offer of rapprochement isn’t an eternal fruit that can be plucked whenever it suits a Mullah’s fancy.

    I had not expected anything earth shattering out of this meeting. Both reiterated their previous positions. Early analysis by IPF and others remarked this meeting lasted longer than planned and was marked by a lot of tension. It should also be remembered that its Mitchell who in the final analysis will be the driver ramming Obama’s I/P agenda, whom Israelis and Palestinians are principally going to have to deal with. That’s what proconsuls are for.

    There have been lots of disappointments, especially these past 8 years when the stupidest man in the universe sat in the US presidency. You can be assured there will be more. But Obama has already passed the point of no return on this issue. He has clearly stated I/P peace and a two state solution is a vital US national security interest in the region.

    This diplomatic dance will be taking off soon enough, and I suggest everyone have their seat belts in hand when it does.

  2. Richard,

    I think you really nailed it here. Congratulations. I hope your analysis will he picked up around the Net.

    Ira

  3. Obama did restate his support for a two state solution and call for a settlement freeze. But there was absolutely no response from Bibi.

    But there was, louder than words: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1086339.html

    Iran:

    “I don’t take options off the table when it comes to U.S. security, period,” the president said.

    Isn’t the ostensible reason Netanyahu is lobbying for a green light to an Israeli attack on Iran the alleged danger to Israel’s (not the US’) security?

  4. Richard said:
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    But perhaps, as happened with Yitzchak Shamir, who was driven from office when he proved unable to work successfully with George H.W. Bush, Bibi will be swept from power and a more pragmatic leader will take the reins who will see more eye to eye with the American president.
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    Actually there is a historical precedent for this. Netanyahu was swept out of office in 1999 and succeeded by THREE Israeli Prime Ministers who were in office for a total of 10 years, each of which was committed to the “2-state solution”, yet none of them succeeded in reaching an agreement with the Palestinians. So even if Netanyahu is ousted once again, why should things end up any different?

    Regarding the settlement freeze…..the media has been filled with reports since the meeting of Obama with King Abdullah of Jordan stating that Obama is working towards a regional peace deal. Figuring that the Palestinians are not strong enough to make the necessary concessions to Israel in order to close a deal, Obama wants the rest of the Arab world, particularly Saudi Arabia to take the initiative and offer some tangible example of the peace they are supposedly offering in the Saudi-Arab Peace Plan we keep hearing about, prior to completing negotiations. Speculation was that Israel would be allowed to open interest sections in the Arab countries, and they would allow Israeli travelling on Israeli passports to enter the countries. In return, Israel would be expected to reciprocate with something like a complete settlement freeze. If this is the case, we will not see a repeat of the Bush I’s policies of demanding Israeli concessions, such as the settlement freeze, up front, but such a concession would come as a result of Obama’s pushing both sides to simultaneous concessions which would then presumably pave the way to a final agreement. If this is correct, don’t except a public hectoring of Israel from Obama, but rather quiet diplomacy.

  5. History can also be a great deceiver to those who unwisely and uncritically seek the affirmation or guidance of past precedents for their time. The Middle East as well as the global geo-political environment are two vastly different realities either side of 19 March 2003. What worked or didn’t work under past leaders is no guarantee such means, methods or policies will work for today’s or tomorrows leaders.

    The irrevocable consequences of the strategic disasters the US has and for sometime will continue to suffer, is forcing paradigm shifts in US foreign policy as the US appraises and takes stock of its evolving national security interests in the Middle East. Retrenchment and rapprochement with enemies are the policies and the means of the US for the foreseeable future.

    Israel also is in a similar boat due to being a chief conspirator, aider and abettor in that ‘strategic disaster,’ and can no more escape the consequences of their stupidity than the US. What remains to become known is whether the Israelis can save themselves or become a footnote in world history. Like it or not, the two state solution is the only path to Israels survival in the Middle East, while the one state scenario at this precise point in time, no matter how imagined or by whom, spells not just the end of the Zionist project but also a Jewish home in Palestine.

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