19 thoughts on “Ariel Becomes Israel’s New University of Occupation – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. Everything in the Occupied Territories (education included) is being delivered – and got – through the muzzle of a gun.

    1. According to Ariel College’s hasbara yes, according to a Meretz-member of the Knesset no.

      I read somewhere (maybe the University’s own hasbara ?) that Ariel has the highest % of “Arabs” [i.e. Israeli citizens] of all Israeli universities. Haaretz had an article back in August saying that 500 “Arabs” were already enrolled last year, according to the College.

      1. So the only “Arabs” who can enroll are also Israeli citizens? Not Palestinians who live in the West Bank?

        1. But why, oh why, would anyone WANT to enroll to a “university” that, as Richard so aptly put it, is accredited by the military and not some academic authority?

          Would it not be in the best interest of the said palestinians to enroll to some distinguished institute run by palestinians and being taught in Arabic, their mother-tongue?

          Of course, alas, no such institute is to be found… but I’m sure that’s Israel fault too, and not, hmm, let me think, the fact that in the 20-odd years since Oslo accord not a single cent of the contribution money granted by the world at large went to develop a thriving, successful academic network.

          1. @Ohad: You’re an idiot. There are of course a number of good universities and colleges in Palestine, both the West Bank & Gaza. They are, of course, supported by donations from many sources including from “the world at large” which you claim hasn’t happened.

            There’s a problem when you’re semi-intelligent as you clearly are and think you have infinite command of facts and argument (which you don’t). You come across as commanding but once you see through the haze you’re nothing but a Wizard surrounded by smoke and mirrors.

            As to why those 500 Israeli Palestinians might want to enroll in Ariel–why because it’s a State-founded school and they’re citizens of that State, or did you forget that? And Arabic may or may not be their native language, but they’re certainly entitled to enroll in any school the state sponsors no matter what the language of teaching.

            As for Palestinians resident in the West Bank, it should be their school as much as any settler’s.

            Israeli State funded universities are a “for profit” venture? What are you smokin’?

          2. @ OhadF
            “no such institute is to be found…but I’m sure that’s Israel’s fault too (…..) not a single cent of the contribution money blahblahblahblah….”
            You don’t know what you’re talking about !
            I encourage you to read Sari Nusseibeh’s autobiography: “Once Upon A Country: A Palestinian Life”, and you’ll get an insider’s view on how Israel has done everything possible to prevent a “thriving, successful academic network” to develop. Nusseibeh taught at Bir Zeit, and is the president of al-Quds University. Read carefully the pages about the Wall…..
            Not to mention the university professors from aborad who have to renew their residence papers constantly, and the Palestinian professors sitting in Israeli jails…
            A European report: Israel targeting Palestinian academics:
            Or what about the IOF setting up extra checkpoints – by pure coincidence, of course…. – during Tawjihi-exams or closing down the universities for months, even years.
            Yeah, The-Only-Democracy has absolutely no responsability, there isn’t even an occupation going on, is there ?

        2. My impression is that no Palestinians from the West Bank are allowed to study at Ariel College, simply because it’s in a settlement, and Palestinians are not allowed to enter settlements. That’s at least how the Meretz-member in the above article debunk the hasbara.
          I read an article maybe last year where the journalist spoke with Israeli Palestinian students studying in Ariel. One of them said that she studied there for economic reasons, and that her family wasn’t too happy (or maybe her friends, I can’t remember) about it.
          PS. The comments to Dahlia’s article are interesting too. Sinjim is a Palestinian living in the States, and Philos is a Hadash-voting Mizrahi Israeli who proudly claims his Iraqi origin, and who has left Israel by now. I’ve learnt quite a lot through his comments.

          1. You wrote: “Palestinians are not allowed to enter settlements” but you must know that isn’t true.

          2. Yes, according to Machsom Watch among the Permanent Prohibitions:
            no. 7: Entry of Palestinians into the areas of the settlements (even for those whose lands are within the built up area of the settlement)
            I wonder if some of your settler-readers here have the guts to tell us how much they pay a Palestinian labourer for a day’s work, compared to if he were an Israeli Jew.
            I saw a programme recently: French Jews living in a settlement, Palestinian construction workers were guarded by an armed settler during their work hours, he didn’t have a whip though…..

          3. That sentence of mine that you ‘quote’ has a continuation: “That’s at least how the Meretz-member in the above article debunk the hasbara”. Why don’t you read that article, and eventually discuss the case with Zahava Galon.

      1. They are studying whatever courses the “university” has to offer to its student crowd (I don’t think Ariel offers medicine, for example) and they study there because they (or a grant, to those who qualify) pay full tuition fees. No goodness of anyone’s heart is at play. Universities are a “for-profit” business after all.

  2. It’s one thing to build houses on occupied land – and illegal – but establishing a university which either limits or disqualifies the people under occupation from attending sends a clear message, that Israel isn’t going to ever get the hell out of the West Bank and that it fully expects the Palestinians, and the world, to just suck it up.

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