73 thoughts on “Barack Obama: Dying to Give a Damn

  1. I believe O. regularly rains missiles on other countries.

    1. Only every other day or so, I think.

  2. TIBOR: “I am thinking of a joint Israeli-Jordanian framework, which the West bank and its inhabitants in their entirety will belong to… ”

    How can one possibly respond to such an arrogant statement? (I’ll wait for Deir Yassin and Mary to give it their best shot)

    (Sorry, Richard, no REPLY option)

  3. Tibor wrote:

    “I think Obama understood that the real dividing line is not anymore Arabs versus Israel but one that runs through the Arab world between those that yearn for normalcy and don`t want to be left behind in a fast moving world and the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah that want to keep “the flame” of the “grand resistance” and with that their own relevance and domination. Obama has chosen to side with the former.”

    This seems to me largely wishful thinking. I mean it is not impossible that the US foreign policy establishment holds this view – the country has, after all, shown a remarkable aptitude for betting on the wrong horses in the last sixty years or so – but that affairs are developing as Tibor wants them to seems to me highly improbable.

    What Israel has managed to do is to bring about an Egyptian-Turkish axis to begin with.

    The Turkish Review – “Today’s Zaman” wrote on 11/19::

    “The name is quite intimidating: “Turkey-Egypt High Level Strategic Cooperation Council.”

    The Turkey-Egypt axis represents the most important aspect of the general trend wherein they try to alter and put a stop to Israel’s attacks on Gaza. In the Middle East, the harmony emerging between Turkey and Egypt will also inflame Israel’s paranoia. The Arab Spring destabilized the delicate balance which the US and Israel have worked, year in and year out, to create through labor, money and scheming.

    We must look at Israel’s Gaza attacks as a dangerous trap set for Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi. Is there any other explanation for the continuation of the attacks even while Morsi visited Gaza? The same trap is set for Turkey.

    Prime Minister Erdoğan’s visit to Egypt is a critical point to see if the two countries Israel set traps for will fall into or overcome them. Israel is pressuring Turkey and Egypt to act thoughtlessly.

    Israel declared war not on Gaza but on the new order, with Turkey among its numbers, in the Middle East. However, the growing closeness between Egypt and Turkey is based on a deep mental, historical repertoire and societal support. It does not appear to be easily abandoned”

    Erdogan made no secret of what he thinks of Turkey’s former ally. The Turkish Hurriyet Daily news reported today:

    “Erdoğan described Israel yesterday as a “terrorist state” for carrying out its bombardment of Gaza,

    “Those who associate Islam with terrorism close their eyes in the face of a mass killing of Muslims, turn their heads from the massacre of children in Gaza,” Erdoğan told a conference of the Eurasian Islamic Council in Istanbul. “For this reason I say that Israel is a terrorist state and its acts are terrorist acts.”

    Egypt’s and Tunisia’s reactions were equally harsh:

    Glenn Greenwald wrote in the Guardian (17/11/12):

    “In reflexive defense of Israel, the US government thus once again put itself squarely at odds with key nations such as Turkey (whose prime minister accused Israel of being motivated by elections and demanded that Israel be “held to account” for mounting civilians deaths), Egypt (which denounced Israeli attacks as “aggression against humanity”), and Tunisia (which called on the world to “stop the blatant aggression” of Israel).”

    Well, perhaps those harsh voices don’t represent Tibor’s dream category, those “who yearn for normalcy” (and thus won’t oppose Israel) but, as it so happens, they are far more likely to determine policies in the region.

  4. What does the much trumpeted Quartet (Blair et al) say about this latest outrage?

  5. Its understandable that you do not support raining iranian made missiles from gaza on israeli territory and even towns/cities.
    But can you stop if from happening?

    The answer would be a ‘BIG NO’.

  6. ● RE: “[T]here is no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders. So we are fully supportive of Israel’s right to defend itself from missiles landing on people’s homes…” – Obama / “O’Bomber”

    MY QUESTION FOR OBAMA / “O’BOMBER”: What country on Earth would tolerate being subjected to an illegal blockade for more than five years? ? ? Israel is truly the “little sadist”, but Obama, AIPAC and the United States are the “Big (Global) Sadist(s)” ! ! !

    ● SEE: “U.N. experts say Israel’s blockade of Gaza illegal”, By Reuters, 9/13/11
    LINK – link to reuters.com

    1. ● P.S. MY SELF-CONGRATULATION(S): I am feeling so darn good about having voted for Jill Stein of the Green Party rather than “O’Bomber”, who obviously authorized Israel to once again “mow the grass” in Gaza in keeping with Israel’s “Iron Wall” obsession. I do not believe Netanyahu would have been able to “play” Jill Stein (“for a fool”, or “like a violin”) nearly as easily as he has been able to “play” Obama.
      I guess I should thank my lucky stars that I don’t live in a “swing state” where I might have been tempted to vote for Obama/O’Bomber as the “(not very) lesser evil”!
      Israel is truly the “little sadist”, but Obama, AIPAC and the United States are the “Big (Global) Sadist(s)” ! ! !

    2. ● P.P.S. ALSO SEE: “Preparing to ‘Mow the Grass’ in Gaza”, By Paul R. Pillar, consortiumnews.com, 3/17/12
      Even as Israeli leaders focus the world on a possible war with Iran, the neocons are prepping public opinion for another bloody assault on Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, what one article likened to “mowing the grass.”

      [EXCERPTS] . . . Neither Israeli nor Palestinian leaders seem anxious for a new war right now in Gaza. Some Israeli politicians have warned that such a war would risk undoing the success the war-mongering talk about Iran has had in diverting attention from the Palestinians’ plight and focusing it instead on the Iranian nuclear program. The successful operation of Israel’s Iron Dome anti-rocket defensive system has relieved what might otherwise have been greater popular pressure on Israeli leaders to strike back faster and even more forcefully.
      There nonetheless is talk in Israel about launching at some point another war against Gazans. Israel’s finance minister, Yuval Steinitz, said “sooner or later, and I don’t want to quote dates, we will have to do a ‘root canal’.”
      . . . The talk reflects another Israeli idée fixe, one that is just as short-sighted as the reliance on cordon-and-swat: an absolute refusal to have anything to do with Hamas except to try to crush it (and occasionally to exchange prisoners with it). This obsession continues no matter what Hamas does and no matter how substantial a portion of Palestinian opinion it may represent. . .
      . . . The counterproductive (if one were interested in peace, that is) Israeli attitudes at play are vividly displayed in a paper published this week by Efraim Inbar and Max Singer of the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, a version of which appeared as an op-ed in the Jerusalem Post. Their piece is titled “The Opportunity in Gaza” — it’s interesting how a violent, destructive clash is viewed as a “opportunity.”
      They argue for a full-scale invasion of the Gaza Strip now — one even bigger and more damaging than Cast Lead, with the objective of destroying as much of Hamas as possible. They blatantly recommend exploiting the U.S. electoral calendar, arguing that “until November, the U.S. is likely to restrain rather than promote international action against Israel in response to an action in Gaza.” They say “deterrence created by Cast Lead” is “wearing thin,” and “military action now could restore deterrence.”
      Someone should point out to Inbar and Singer than when you repeatedly have to go to war that means deterrence is not working. But they don’t seem to care, fully accepting the prospect that in the future “Israel will probably have to ‘mow the grass’ again.” There is not a single word in their paper about the lives and livelihoods of the residents of the Gaza Strip, or the effect what they are recommending would have on those lives. . .

      ENTIRE COMMENTARY – link to consortiumnews.com

      PLEASE CONSIDER SIGNING THE “FREE DON” SIEGELMAN PETITION. – link to change.org

  7. “Israeli polls find that while 90% of Israelis support the Gaza war…”
    I have wondered when seeing these poll results whether Palestinian Israelis get to be polled. Since I understand that around 20 percent of Israelis are Palestinian, it’s hard for me to believe they would be overwhelmingly in favor of Israel attacking Gaza and carrying out wholesale slaughter of Palestinian women and children there. Does one have to be Jewish to be considered Israeli enough to be counted?

      1. Claiming that “90% or Israelis support the Gaza war” when at most it’s only 90% of 80% is racist and deceptive. Clearly the vast majority of Jews in Israel are happy with what is being done in their name, but why would anyone think it necessary to lie to deceive people into thinking the percentage is even higher than it actually is?

  8. It continues into the night:
    A new family massacre: an air strike on a house in Beit Lahya killed Fuad and Amna Hijazi and their four year old twins, Suhaib and Muhammad.
    Two brothrs of 15 and 17, Muhammad and Ahmad Tawfiq al-Nasasra were killed in an air raid in Rafah.

    In the West Bank two Palestinians died today: Rushdi Mahmoud Hassan al-Tamimi , 28 years, died from injuries inflicted during a solidarity rally with Gaza on Saturday in his village of Nabi Saleh. He was shot in the stomach by a heroic IDF-soldier.
    Hamdi Mohammad Jawwad al-Falah, 22 years, from Hebron, was shot four times by live bullets from close range in the head and heart during a solidarity rally with Gaza.
    Many seriously wounded all across the West Bank.
    All on Ma’an News.

  9. Israel can successfully peddle the “human shields” story because most people, especially Americans, do not realise how tiny the Gaza strip is. The Tel Aviv metropolitan area is more than four times bigger but has less than twice its population. In other words the population density of the Gaza strip is twice that of the Tel Aviv metropolitan area. There are hardly any wide open spaces there where rocket launchers could be put away from civilians to make things convenient for the IDF. So it moans about “human shields”.

    Tel Aviv metropolitan area : 1516 km2
    Population: 3,206,000
    Gaza strip: 365 km2
    Population: 1,700,000

    (Source: Wikipedia)

    1. [comment deleted for comment rule violation–your comment was not substantive which it needs to be.]

  10. Israel could successfully peddle the “human shields” story because most people, especially Americans, do not realise how tiny the Gaza strip is. The Tel Aviv metropolitan area is more than four times bigger but has less than twice its population. In other words the population density of the Gaza strip is twice that of the Tel Aviv metropolitan area. There are hardly any wide open spaces there where rocket launchers could be put away from people and as a seductive target for the IDF. So it moans about “human shields”.

    Tel Aviv metropolitan area : 1516 km2
    Population: 3,206,000
    Gaza strip: 365 km2
    Population: 1,700,000

    (Source: Wikipedia)

    1. So Hamas bears no responsibility for endangering the lives of its citizens? And are you justifying the rockets as necessary and assuming Israel should just live with the indiscriminate rocket fire against its civilians?

      1. Are you saying that in the death of Israeli civilians during the Lebanon & current war that the Israeli government bears no responsibility for endangering their lives? Of course they do. Hamas bears even less responsibility because it did not start those wars, Israel did. As for who is responsible for killing Palestinian civilians? Israel, of course.

        1. Sure but is Hamas not putting gazans at risk unnecessarily by continuing to launch pointless rockets, knowing that israel will respond, and that their response will cause casualties considering the dense population and the rockets firing from residential areas? If I was a gazan I would wonder why Hamas believes that it should put its people at risk for pointless violence on israel. The solution here should be nonviolent, otherwise Israel crushes them in a military conflict and what’s the point for Hamas? In my opinion Hamas bears a lot of responsibility as there are other nonviolent strategies it can pursue and I still have difficulty finding any logical purpose for their rocket attacks.

          1. If you were Gazan and had half a heart you’d be in the Resistance, to paraphrase Barak’s famous remark. Or perhaps you’d be a collaborator turning in your neighbors to your Shabak handler?

            I do find it ever so ironic and maddening when Israeli Jews or their boosters offer their own opinion about what Hamas or Gazans or Palestinians should do, when they’d be far better off trying to change the asinine policies of their own government.

            What makes you think that your advice or judgments about what Palestinians should do have any value whatsoever?

          2. Firstly, thanks for the rudeness u must have been angered today, and don’t generalize me as anyone when you don’t know where I’m even from. I came here to find answers to some of my question and gain another perspective on this issue but u seem to be getting too rattled to answer fairly or informatively. So do you mind answering a question or are you just turning to spewing hate and judgement. What logical purpose do the rockets serve? Aside from being a product of frustration are they not pointless and self defeating? So pleae turn of your judgment meter and help disperse some information as is the purpose of this blog. We are all against suffering but I am definitely pro logic and reason and your answer is lacking any of that. No need to attack people or be rude maybe you just need to cool off a bit. A real answer would be nice and appreciated

          3. [comment deleted for violation of comment rules–read them and don’t break them. Comments must be substantive and relate directly to blog post.]

      1. ah ok yeah I almost went down that same path myself…thanks, Marc

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

2K views 0 Shares
Share via
Copy link