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  1. Arguing in favor Iranian “victimhood” is hardly convincing. Iran’s activities in financing and supporting terror organizations all over the world are well known, and their extreme rhetoric, as opposed to western rhetoric, leaves very little room for doubt regarding their often-violent ambitions. When a little girl in Israel makes racist remarks, you’re all over it like a rabid dog, yet when Iran holds holocaust denial conferences, blames “Zionism” for all the world’s racism and wars and other rabid racist/thretning remarks, you somehow ignore it or at least blame the west for Iran’s militant Islamic ambitions. Interesting.

    1. Arguing in favor of Israeli “victimhood” is hardly convincing. Israel’s activities in financing and supporting assassinations & other acts of terror all over the world are well known, and its extreme rhetoric leaves very little room for doubt regarding its often-violent ambitions. When an ayatollah in Iran makes racist remarks, you’re all over it like a rabid dog, yet when Israel holds anti-Iran conferences, blames Iran for anti-Semitism and wars and other rabid racist/thretning remarks, you somehow ignore it. Interesting.

      Two can play this game you know.

      1. Israel does not finance “acts of terror”. Nor does Israel hold “anti-Iranian” conferences.

        And yes, I blame the Iranian leadership for promoting the sickest kind of anti-semitism. I base this on the fact that Iran holds holocaust denial conferences, accuse Zionists of committing 9/11. This is anti-semitism in its clearest form.

        1. hezi:

          No Israel doesnt “finance” terror it commit terror herself against Palestinians, Lebanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine), Iranians, in Egypt (Lavon Affair) etc. Thats nothing new.

          You scream antisemitism for everything, you are hysterical.

          Iran have made it clear they have no problem with jews whatsoever, they are “people of the book”. They do have a problem with zionism though as it has been practiced since 1948 (ehtnic cleansing, wars, occupation, nuclear armed, a rogue state etc). It lives jews in Iran today, so stop your warmongering right away.

          Also Iran have never said Israel is behind 911.

          Also, they have never denied the holocaust. But even if they did, there are free speech I assume? Or is free speech ok aslong as you say the “right” things? Because the israeli regime denies the Nakba. Is that ok for you? Why this double standard? Its so obvious.

          1. “You scream antisemitism for everything, you are hysterical.”

            Where have you seen me accuse anyone of anti-semitism, other in this context?

            I believe that holding holocaust denial conferences, while promoting conspiracies that Jews/Zionists invented it in order to get money and sympathy is terribly anti-semitic propaganda, meant to inspire nothing but hate towards Jews. Western countries often prohibit the dissemination of such vile propaganda, and justly so.

            Here is the link regarding Iran’s positions regarding the holocaust and holocaust denial:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#Holocaust_denial

            Are you a Palestinian, Anonymous? If so, let’s continue this talk and try to make something out of it.

          2. Hezi:

            “Where have you seen me accuse anyone of anti-semitism, other in this context?”

            What matter does other context make? I am talking about this debate. Dont try to shift focus.

            “I believe that holding holocaust denial conferences, while promoting conspiracies that Jews/Zionists invented it in order to get money and sympathy is terribly anti-semitic propaganda, meant to inspire nothing but hate towards Jews. Western countries often prohibit the dissemination of such vile propaganda, and justly so.”

            Why do you keep repeating lies and paradox views?
            1. They havent denied the holocaust.
            2. There is free speech, obviously you cant accept that.

            There is no denial that some zionists make money out of the holocaust. Read for example Norman Finkelstein’s book. The holocaust industry:

            http://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Industry-Reflections-Exploitation-Suffering/dp/1859843239

            “Here is the link regarding Iran’s positions regarding the holocaust and holocaust denial:”

            I know full well Iran’s position on holocaust, you seems to see things that arent there like the regular extremist zionist.

            “Are you a Palestinian, Anonymous? If so, let’s continue this talk and try to make something out of it.”

            No I am not palestinian so keep your xenophobia to yourself.

        2. Israel doesn’t finance acts of terror? What do you call the Mavi Marmara massacre and Operation Cast Lead?

          I blame the Israeli leadership for promoting the sickest kind of anti-Iran hysteria. This is racism in its clearest form. Again two can play this game my friend.

          1. Please cite examples of Israel’s anti-Iran hysteria. Assuming you provide cites, please clarify how ‘anti-Iran hysteria’ is racist, and not nationalist.

          2. I think “finance” means “outsourcing”. This is very confusing, though. In good old days there were bad godless terrorists and the good terrorists like Contras, UNITA, Al-Qaeda.

            If I had my way, I would maintain separate concepts of terror, subversion, massacres and violent repressions (including assassinations). None has clear superiority/inferiority over the other, but distinctions are useful.

            Because when we talk about indiscriminate attacks on innocent civilians and then the first two examples are Khobar Towers and Marine barracks in Beirut, then I think English language suffers (innocent or not). At the very least, people in Marine barracks were not civilians.

        1. Right. Treeta Parsi broke the story. I remember. Unfortunately, the ‘peace offer’ turned out to be a sham, concocted by a rogue Swiss diplomat. Try again.

          1. This is a lie. The Cheney Bush administration rejected the overture because it prefer to leave the war option open after they were done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

            This is not a place where you get to simply make things up. If you do or if your comments are pure propaganda devoid of substance, they won’t be published.

          2. “this is a lie. The Cheney Bush administration rejected the overture because it prefer to leave the war option open after they were done in Iraq and Afghanistan” said the one who sat with the Bush and Cheney when they decided to reject it.

            Of course, when someone provide some links it seen as uncredible source by those who sat with Bush and Cheney. It seems that Treeta Parsi is a very credible source.

          3. Michael Rubin works for the American Enterprise Institute & published this garbagebin Bill Kristol’s Weekly Standard. As far as I’m concerned that makes Rubin & you rogue analysts & commenters. What about Rubin makes him a credible source?

            What is it about you hasbarists? Don’t you know where you are? If you want us to believe anything you say use sources that are credible, not propaganda. We don’t buy propaganda or hasbara here. Learn a lesson why don’t you.

    2. Oh please stop these crocodile tears.

      Let me ask you a simple question.

      What if Iran assasinated some 4 israeli nuclear scientists? Would you condone it? Of course not, now imagine how iranians feel when they get their scientists constantly attacked by Israel. By your message you seems to have no respect for anybody outside Israel.

      Where were you when the Golden rule was taught in school?

      1. If Israel frequently threatened to wipe out Iran, as Iran does against Israel, I would understand why Iran would want to prevent Israel from obtaining nuclear weapons. However, this is not the case. Israel was in excellent relations with Iran until the revolution took place, after which Iran abandoned the alliance with Israel and turned it into its enemy. Iran is present in Israel’s backyard through Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Syria and god knows what other organizations. Iran has been responsible for the bombing of the Buenos Aires bombing of the Jewish community building. Iran’s leaders continue to make threatning remarks towards the west, with Israel being on top of its “hate list”. They hold holocaust denial ceremonies and accuse Zionism of the world’s wars and racism.

        Jews have had poor experience with people who threaten to destroy them. Do you blame Israel for acting in its own self-defense?

        1. Israel has threatened to attack Iran since the act-of-war ILSA-sanctions imposed on Iran in 1996 due aipac wishes.
          This week we have heard netanyahu threat to invade Iran countless of times. And you still pointing fingers at Iran?

          Also, Iran have never said “wipe off”, its a well known rumour.
          http://antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025

          Som the questions is, why do you keep lie and warmonger? Tell me what so beautiful with being a compulsive lier and warmonger? What so wonderful with war? Please tell us. Is it to hasten the second coming? To establish greater Israel?
          Please tell us.

          “Iran has been responsible for the bombing of the Buenos Aires bombing of the Jewish community building.”
          Sigh, more lies. What drives you? Seriously. Are you brainwashed?

          “Jews have had poor experience with people who threaten to destroy them. Do you blame Israel for acting in its own self-defense?”
          Stop this right away, there are victims everywhere, stop using the holocaust card to justify a nuclear attack on Iran. Have you no shame boy?

          1. “Israel has threatened to attack Iran since the act-of-war ILSA-sanctions imposed on Iran in 1996 due aipac wishes.” – LOL. Do you have any credible sources for the last part of your sentence?

            “This week we have heard netanyahu threat to invade Iran countless of times” – where did you hear that? or maybe it’s your associations?

            “Iran have never said “wipe off”, its a well known rumour” – Well, you should read this article and not your fishy links: http://articles.cnn.com/2005-10-26/world/ahmadinejad_1_israel-jerusalem-day-islamic-world?_s=PM:WORLD

            ““Iran has been responsible for the bombing of the Buenos Aires bombing of the Jewish community building.”
            Sigh, more lies. What drives you? Seriously. Are you brainwashed?” – It seems that the one who was brainwashed and he’s full of hater is you my dear friend. please read the following link:
            http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6085768.stm

            “Stop this right away, there are victims everywhere, stop using the holocaust card to justify a nuclear attack on Iran” – Where was the holocaust card was used? you seem to put your words in other’s mouth. What Hezi said is that Jews have had poor experience with people who threaten to destroy them. This and no more. And yes, he’s right.

            I think you should open your history books and learn it. If you live in Muslim country you don’t need to open them.

            “Have you no shame BOY” – Except of Jews, do you hate Afro-Americans or Africans too?

          2. We’re done with the issue of what Ahmadinejad did or didn’t say about Israel. Don’t bring this subject up again. We’ve discussed it ad nauseam. Read the comment threads carefull before posting another comment.

          3. “Tell me what so beautiful with being a compulsive lier and warmonger?”

            There is nothing beautiful in being a “compulsive liar” and a “warmonger”, but I am neither. Perhaps you are trying to see me as something I am not.

            “Stop this right away, there are victims everywhere, stop using the holocaust card to justify a nuclear attack on Iran. Have you no shame boy?”

            We are not using the holocaust to justify a possible attack against Iran, we are using Iran’s threats to wipe out the Zionist regime as justification. If someone called you a “malignant tumor that must be removed from the face of this earth”, to your face, you’d also be worried.

            “Sigh, more lies. What drives you? Seriously. Are you brainwashed?”

            I am not brainwashed, but I did read the wikipedia page regarding the bombing, which also states Iran as the “leading suspect” of this attack:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_AMIA_bombing
            Also, you do not know me, and I’d appreciate it if you’d stop being so aggressive (“What drives you?”, “Are you brainwashed?”).

        2. Barak said that the Israeli public should not be concerned about the Iranian threat.

          “I refuse to be intimidated, as if Iran could destroy Israel, ” Barak said. “Israel is the most powerful country, from Tripoli to Tehran. There is no reason to be afraid of anything.”

          Haaretz 10.31.2011

          http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/barak-israel-has-not-already-decided-to-strike-iran-1.392936

          Israel and the US are thugs – they only attck those they know are effectively defenceless.

          1. Well, it’s obvious that you didn’t hear the full and original interview of Barak at GALATZ.
            Barak answered the following question: “what would happen after Israel will attack Iran’s nuclear sites?”

            “Israel and the US are thugs – they only attck those they know are effectively defenceless” – big LOL on that. I assume that Hezbollah is without any defences? Well, it should have realize it before it attacked Israel in the first place.

          1. Claims that the Quds militia procurred (rather than carried out) the Buernos Aires bombing came from the Argentine police and intelligence services after a prolonged investigation.

            It’s a city with more than a million muslim citizens (all of whom appear to support Rio De Plato) as well as thousands of Jews. The Argentine police have an urgent interest in being precisely accurate over this matter, rather than being anyone’s tool, so I’d take their conclusions as being, indeed, precisely accurate.

            “Proven fact” will have to wait until the Iranian individual named in the warrant which an Argentine court has issued, finds his way to Buenos Aires for trial. I would hope that Israel in the guise of Mossad doesn’t presume to take the place of the Argentine courts, because it was a (massively unjustifiable) crime against Argentine citizens in Argentina.

          2. PUHLEEZE the Argentinian “investigation” that ended up accusing Iran – after strong pro-Israeli pressure -was just too much of a farce to take seriously. Nevermind that the investigating judge was caught giving a large bribe to the witness who had implicated Iran, nevermind the “Iranian hairdresser” story, but in fact the Argentinians filed for extradition against an Iranian former amb to Argentina who was studying in the UK, and the UK authorities took him into custody – however they had to release him when the Argentinian extradition request could not present the MINIMAL evidence necessary to justify extradition. The Brits gave the Argentinians TWO chances to come up with enough evidence to justify extradition and they couldn’t. All they had to do was present a prima facie case – not proof beyond a reasonable doubt

          3. Closed down for complaining about Argentina’s unsolved bombings?
            Jayme Brener

            02/15/99
            The Jerusalem Report
            Copyright (C) 1999 The Jerusalem Report; Source: World Reporter (TM)

            A maverick Jewish radio journalist who charges the Argentinian government with
            covering up police complicity in terrorism has been shunted off the air. He
            blames Jewish leaders and Israeli embassy officials, as well as the country’s
            Jewish interior minister, for silencing him.

            The journalist, Herman Schiller came to national prominence in 1986, when he
            attacked Jewish leaders for their silence about the 1976-1983 military
            dictatorship that killed thousands of its opponents, among them many Jews.

            For the last three years, Schiller, 60, broadcast a popular program on Radio
            Jai (pronounced hai – Hebrew for “alive”), Latin America’s only 24-hour all-
            Jewish radio station. He denounced the government for intentionally
            misdirecting the investigation of the 1992 and 1994 Buenos Aires bomb attacks
            against the Israeli Embassy and a Jewish community building, which together
            killed 115 people. “They try to focus on the Iranian track, while all the
            clues lead to our own police,” says Schiller.

            He also denounced Jewish leaders for going along with President Carlos
            Menem’s Islamic-connection theory. “Maybe Iran or some Middle Eastern
            terrorist organization could have financed both attacks, but until now Buenos
            Aires police officers have been the main suspects. The government doesn’t
            want a serious investigation because this could expose its own innards,” says
            Schiller. And last January, in Israel, Schiller signed a protest against the
            visit of Minister of Interior Carlos Corach (himself a Jew), who heads the
            investigation. of the attacks and belongs to Menem’s closest circle of
            friends.

          4. Argentines Concede Missteps on Bombing
            by Calvin Sims

            New York Times, Aug 25, 1994. pg. A.8

            Despite announcements two weeks ago that Argentina had evidence linking Iranian diplomats to the bombing of a Jewish community center here on July 18, the Government is still far from knowing who carried out the attack and may never resolve the case, Argentine officials say. The bombing killed 100 people and wounded scores of others.

            The officials, who are familiar with the Government’s investigation of the bombing and who spoke on condition of anonymity, said in recent interviews that the case against the Iranian diplomats was very thin, based mainly on circumstantial evidence provided by an Iranian dissident whose credibility was uncertain.

            There is a growing sentiment in the administration of President Carlos Saul Menem that the Government has mishandled the case by publicly endorsing such flimsy evidence and threatening to sever diplomatic ties with Iran and expel its Ambassador based solely on unsubstantiated information, the officials said.

            “We have looked pretty silly and naive in recent weeks,” a senior Government official said. “It’s awful to raise expectations and make people believe things that are later revealed as unproven. That destroys credibility.”

    3. Hezi doesn’t like Israel portrayed as anything but the defenseless victim. The idea of Iran as victim get him/her all exercised. But Israel is the one with the nukes. Israel is the one doing the assassinations. Israel is the one testing ICBMs. Israel is the one threatening an attack. Doesn’t sound like a victim to me. In contrast, Iran doesn’t have nukes, but even if it WERE trying to obtain them, lots of people can see why, surrounded as it is by US military installations in half a dozen countries, including those with US and Israeli nukes. This is hypocrisy on a large scale. It’s obvious. The only rabid dog in the neighborhood is Israel.

      1. Hezi:

        “There is nothing beautiful in being a “compulsive liar” and a “warmonger”, but I am neither. Perhaps you are trying to see me as something I am not. ”

        You dont fool anyone, now you are even lying that you lied in the first place.

        “We are not using the holocaust to justify a possible attack against Iran, we are using Iran’s threats to wipe out the Zionist regime as justification. If someone called you a “malignant tumor that must be removed from the face of this earth”, to your face, you’d also be worried.”

        Once again, “wipe off the map” is a rumour that was exposed 4 years ago, why do you keep repeating it? Obviously you really seems to have a compulsive warmongering lying disorder.

        Yes you do, you justify possible nuclear attack on Iran based on vicitimization. How low can you get?
        Not to mention what israeli politicians say about palestinians, syrians, lebanese and iranians. Why do you have a double standard?

        For example in 2009 israeli foreign minister threatened to wipe gazans off the map with a nuclear attack. But of course according to you such threats are ok. Have you no shame?!

        http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jQcI9FHWxEsA6tc4jY_geH7HvqQw

        “I am not brainwashed, but I did read the wikipedia page regarding the bombing, which also states Iran as the “leading suspect” of this attack:”

        It was a rhetorical question, obviously you cant answer that because of the brainwashing.
        Leading suspect doesnt mean Iran is behind it. Stop this libel on Iran. If someone say israel is a “leading suspect” you start calling people antisemite. Stop that right away.

        1. If you are willing to do away with the verbal abuse, I would gladly. If you just keep calling me a “brainwashed liar”, then I am afraid we cannot continue this dialog. Your call – I would like to be able to hold a conversation with you – even if we strongly disagree.

          “Leading suspect doesnt mean Iran is behind it.” – Please read the wikipedia page. No one was ever prosecuted for the attacks, mainly due to the negligence of Aregentian authorities. Islamic Jihad, a movement backed by Iran has claimed responsibility for the attacks. The evidence against Iran (as documented in the wikipedia page) is quite overwhelming. So, in the unlikely event that Iran wasn’t behind the attacks, to accuse me of being “brainwashed” in light of the significant evidence tying Iran to the attack is unjust.

          1. I meant that if you are willing to do away with the verbal abuse, then I would gladly *continue this conversation*. Otherwise, we will part as friends.

          2. Hezi:

            “If you are willing to do away with the verbal abuse, I would gladly. If you just keep calling me a “brainwashed liar”, then I am afraid we cannot continue this dialog”

            So what kind of euphemism do you want to use? Its obvious that you lie, you get caught red handed and you still lie and warmonger. Whats the best way to describe you?

            ““Leading suspect doesnt mean Iran is behind it.” – Please read the wikipedia page. No one was ever prosecuted for the attacks, mainly due to the negligence of Aregentian authorities. Islamic Jihad, a movement backed by Iran has claimed responsibility for the attacks. The evidence against Iran (as documented in the wikipedia page) is quite overwhelming. So, in the unlikely event that Iran wasn’t behind the attacks, to accuse me of being “brainwashed” in light of the significant evidence tying Iran to the attack is unjust.”
            You failed to approach what I wrote. Blood libel was not nice, so why do you picked up and use the same methods on groups of people you dislike? It seems that you dont belive in the rule of law.

          3. Hezi, you are liar and you’re obviously lying so shut up.
            You really don’t know what happens in your backyard and state. You’re brainwashed and I know better than you. Even though I live outside of the middle east and even though I haven’t been there even once. Oh, and how could I forget, I get my information from F-class sites and incredible sources.

            Pure sarcasm of course 😉

            Don’t take it personally. It doesn’t really worth your replies.

            Oh, and one more thing – don’t let them fool you – it’s all about antismitism. No more.

  2. Unlike a western horse opera there are no good vs bad guy situations in the Middle East. It is a collection of bad guys having at each other, all for dubious ends. It is hard to tell Jewish Ayatollahs from Muslim Ayatollahs or Muslim racists from Israeli racists. In Jordan which has a peace treaty with Israel, it is a capital offense to sell real estate to a Jew. A racist rabbi in Tzfat got all of us, including myself, into a furor when he said Jews must not rent property to Arabs, much less sell. Mutual name calling is not relevant. What is needed is rational thinking in Jerusalem, Washington and Teheran. It is in short supply everywhere, alas.

  3. The slight difficulty I have with this line, Richard, is that it’s still an open question as to who killed Dr Timothy Hampton in Vienna.

    1. That’s a masterpiece. We all should cut this link and save it for the next generations.

      Richard, really? Do you really accept This kind of stuff in your blog? Really?

      1. Jonds:

        Once again you get surprised by well known facts. Amazing how little you know about the conflict you are so eager to ignite, thats what making you warmonger so dangerous, you are acting on fabricated stories, lies and propaganda.
        It wasnt the first time either Iran offered to establish good relations with the US. However as always the aipac put pressure on US not to accept friendship since it would leave Israeli regime without a partner. israel wants US for itself and for backing up on wars. Like a personal bodyguard.

        1. “Once again you get surprised by well known facts.” – Hmmm… well known facts? Or maybe well known myths? Maybe you should check this following link: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/did_iran_offer_a_grand_bargain.html

          “Amazing how little you know about the conflict you are so eager to ignite” – LOL. It’s amazing that one from the outside world and even not from the ME tells me that I don’t know (or know a little) about the conflict. Especially when he fed by Arab’s/Iranian’s/Palestinian’s/aplologits Jews’ propaganda.

          “thats what making you warmonger so dangerous, you are acting on fabricated stories, lies and propaganda”

          “It wasnt the first time either Iran offered to establish good relations with the US. However as always the aipac put pressure on US not to accept friendship since it would leave Israeli regime without a partner.” – Again, let me giggle on that. Do you have any credible sources to verify the first part of your sentence? On second thought, do you have any credible sources to verify the second part of your sentence?

          1. Just goes to show that other pro-Israeli sources are in as much denial about this historical fact as you are. The Wash Post, the NY Times, etc. all had the actual documents. And this was hardly the only Iranian concession offer that the US simply ignored. There’s a pattern that goes back a while – and speaks volumes about what’s really going on.

      2. Ummmm….the blog links to the Washington Post, the New York Times, the American Prospect etc. In fact the actual text of the Iranian peace offer is widely available – Nicholas Kristoff posted it on his blog.

        1. Hass:

          They are too brainwashed to understand, they label you and me as racists. In fact, that is something “good” in this debate because that mean we exposed something they dont want to be spread and published.

  4. JONDS:

    “– LOL. Do you have any credible sources for the last part of your sentence?”

    Well known facts. The fact that you burst out in “LOL” pretty much proves the mindset, namely that “israel is so innocent, never have they done any harm”.Same goes for the iranian sanctions from 2008/2009, also a initian by aipac and aipac-paid congress politicians.

    Some links:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2011/06/aipac-from-the-inside-1-isolating-iran.html

    http://books.google.com/books?id=yaH3YN5-DmsC&pg=PA225&dq=ilsa+aipac&hl=sv&ei=BBW4Tt2JFYP74QTp8_i9Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=ilsa%20aipac&f=false

    http://www.worlddialogue.org/content.php?id=93

    “– where did you hear that? or maybe it’s your associations?”

    Not only netanyahu, but also peres, barak et.c. the usual warmongering clientele.

    “ Well, you should read this article and not your fishy links: http://articles.cnn.com/2005-10-26/world/ahmadinejad_1_israel-jerusalem-day-islamic-world?_s=PM:WORLD

    You are calling a link that actually deconstruct the lie “fishy” and you give me a CNN-link? Was that supposed to be a joke? Once again, even when the facts are presented to you, you refuse to belive. Obviously you seems to be brainwashed.

    “brainwashed and he’s full of hater is you my dear friend. please read the following link:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6085768.stm

    I dont know where you come from but in a democratic society the people are first and foremost convicted and then stand trial in court, after that the judge decides if the person is guilty or not. You have been fed for years about evil iranians, evil arabs etc that you cant comprehend basic reasoning. You share that mindset with the warmongers at likud, which also base its actions on lies, deception and fabrication. Just to carry out more settlement and to show its violent schemes against Iran.

    “ Where was the holocaust card was used? you seem to put your words in other’s mouth. What Hezi said is that Jews have had poor experience with people who threaten to destroy them. This and no more. And yes, he’s right.”

    He obviously imply what happnend by the state of Germany, make no misstake, do not use holocaust card to impose death on another group. Today it is obviously palestinians, lebanese and iranians that are threatened with death by the nuclear armed and military strong regime in Tel Aviv.

    “I think you should open your history books and learn it. If you live in Muslim country you don’t need to open them.”

    And here comes some nice xenophobia on top of all. Sorry I am not muslim nor arab so keep that despicable rhetoric for yourself.

    “ Except of Jews, do you hate Afro-Americans or Africans too?

    Thanks for proving my point. You got the nerve to call someone other a racist? While at the same time defending Israel? Built on ethnic cleansing and a land which you cannot move to unless you are ethnic jew?

    1. I will just refer you to the following links:
      About Trita Parsi’s Essey: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/treacherous-alliance-by-trita-parsi/

      About weissman, let me quote from the interview “he believes a war with Iran — which he says “would be the stupidest thing I ever heard of” — might well be blamed on AIPAC’s leaders and their constituents. “What the Jews’ war will be is Iran,” he says. “Not Iraq.” Yep, It seems that AIPAC is behind the devlopment of nuclear arms by Iran.

      “Not only netanyahu, but also peres, barak et.c. the usual warmongering clientele.” – Where does they say Israel will INVADE Iran? Maybe it’s your conclusion or maybe you don’t know what invasion is? Maybe you’re confusing between raid and invasion?

      “You are calling a link that actually deconstruct the lie “fishy” and you give me a CNN-link?” – The CNN link provides facts and no more. What you provide is rumors or broken translation.

      “He obviously imply what happnend by the state of Germany” – Well, he didn’t so don’t put wors on others’ mouth. You really should learn Jewish history before criticizing.

      “Today it is obviously palestinians, lebanese and iranians that are threatened with death by the nuclear armed….” – NONSENSE. Israel never threatened anybody with death by the nuclear armed. In fact, Israel never confessed that it have nuclear arms.

      “Sorry I am not muslim nor arab so keep that despicable rhetoric for yourself” – Ofcourse you didn’t answer what I reffered to. If you were a little more open-minded and less brainwashed you would have known that in Arab’s and Muslim’s countries there isn’t any Jewish history at all and if there is, It’s biased. Let me remind you Abu-Mazen’s speech in the UN general assembly: “I come before you today from the Holy Land, the land of Palestine, the land of divine messages, ascension of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the birthplace of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him)”. Yep, Eretz Israel (not Palestine as it ws never a state called Palestine) is not the home of Jews. Even after the declartion of Lord Balfur and even the same assembly recognized Israel as the home of the Jews – not a word by him. Yep, that’s the real history of the Arabs and Muslims. There isn’t any xenophobia about it. It’s all about facts. Facts that you that live in Sweden do not know, The same facts that Israeli citizens live everyday. So, please, Give me a break from your “wise” comments.

      “Built on ethnic cleansing” – And again brainwashed propaganda. It’s the first time in history when the attacker who didn’t agree to share the land being the victim. About ethnical cleansing I refer you to the Ph.D. essey of Abu-Mazen. You will find surprising comments there about ethnical cleansing.

      “a land which you cannot move to unless you are ethnic jew” – It seems that you missing the point that Israel is the nation of the Jews. And yes, Israel has the right (like any state in the world) to decide who will enter it and get citizenship and who won’t. Really, in Sweden you should check this matter too as it seems that as long as the Swedish government let more and more immigrants to emigrate to it, the percentage of sexual crimes grows.

      Oh, and more thing – Please don’t tell me that in Sweden there isn’t any established antisimitism. I remember your Malmo’s mayor antisimite comments.

      1. Quoting or linking to Commentary Magazine as if it’s a legitimate source for anything credible is foolish. Please don’t do so unless you want other readers to laugh at you for your credulousness.

        1. “Quoting or linking to Commentary Magazine as if it’s a legitimate source for anything credible is foolish” – Well, when ones link to co-ed it is credible? and when one puts an academic essay and the other link to an academic one which criticizes it it’s not legitmate?

          Please, I really don’t care what others will do or won’t do, laugh or won’t laugh. They’re prejudice already.

      2. JONDS:

        There is no secret that aipac have a huge influence on american foreign policy regarding the middle east.
        This year we could note the following:

        *Obama refused to condemn Israel in the UNSC, he used the veto.

        *Obama refused to recognize Palestine.

        *Obama refused to recognize Palestine as a member in UNESCO.

        *Obama refuse to sanction or even condemn (in real terms) the continued israeli demolitions, landgrab and explosion of israeli illegal settlements.

        *Obama refused to take a stance against killing of 6 Egyptian soliders by IDF. Just like he refused to even condemn Israel when 9 turkish civilians died on the Freedom Flotilla Ship last year. Much ‘thanks’ to aipac pushing this agenda.

        *Obama continues with the harsh anti-iranian rhetoric will use more sanctions or even accept israeli attack on Iran. An initiative pushed by groups like aipac.

        etc

        “Where does they say Israel will INVADE Iran? Maybe it’s your conclusion or maybe you don’t know what invasion is? Maybe you’re confusing between raid and invasion?”

        Invade=attack and encroach
        http://thesaurus.com/browse/invade

        Israel want to invade or attack (if you may) Iran.

        “The CNN link provides facts and no more. What you provide is rumors or broken translation.”

        There is no denial what he said, of course warmongers what to portray something different. You want to be victimized.

        “NONSENSE. Israel never threatened anybody with death by the nuclear armed. In fact, Israel never confessed that it have nuclear arms.”

        Israel have constantly said that “all options are on the table” and threatened to use its nukes in the late 1960s. Taking in regard israeli belligerent behavious towards its neighbours, a regime like Israel, shouldnt have any control of nuclear weapons.

        Not to mention when Israel threatened palestinians with a nuclear attack.

        “The Balad party has accused Avigdor Lieberman of inciting to genocide after he called to ‘fight Hamas like the United States did to the Japanese.'”
        http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129435

        “. If you were a little more open-minded and less brainwashed you would have known that in Arab’s and Muslim’s countries there isn’t any Jewish history at all and if there is, It’s biased.”

        What does it matter if Iam muslim then? If you put the premise that only muslim know of the bias I assume you are a muslim? Of course not.
        Your message makes not much sense because your argument could be used by arab states too.

        “”. If you were a little more open-minded and less brainwashed you would have known that in Israel there isn’t any Islamic history at all and if there is, It’s biased.”

        “And again brainwashed propaganda. It’s the first time in history when the attacker who didn’t agree to share the land being the victim. About ”
        The ethnic cleansing is a wellknown facts even prolific zionist historians admit it. The question you should ask yourself is why the zionist groups didnt accept a ‘no’ by the palestinians. Not to mention why zionists groups carried out cleansing of palestinians even on the area that was not supposed to to Israel anyway?

        1. “There is no secret that aipac have a huge influence on american foreign policy regarding the middle east” – No, there’s no doubt but to say that a president went to war because of AIPAC is unrealistic. You seem not to give any credit to the president of the most powerful state in the world.

          “Obama refused to condemn Israel in the UNSC, he used the veto” – so? It’s all about intrests of the US.

          “Obama refused to condemn Israel in the UNSC, he used the veto” – So? During the Oslo agreements the US guaranteed Israel that the state of Palestine will be established by the acceptebce of both sides and that there will be no one-sided actions. Obama stood by this guarantee. The same applies for the UNESCO bid.

          “Obama refuse to sanction or even condemn (in real terms) the continued israeli demolitions, landgrab and explosion of israeli illegal settlements.” – Who said that the settelments are illegal? by what law? and before you will turn me to the Genvea convenion you should no that these territories weren’t in the control of any Palestinian sovereignty.

          “Obama refused to take a stance against killing of 6 Egyptian soliders by IDF” – So? Israel apologized to the Egyptans. What stance Obama should take? Not to mention that the terrorists who attack civilians on the territory of Israel did that from Egypt and near their posts without any interference.

          “There is no denial what he said, of course warmongers what to portray something different. You want to be victimized” – Well, the Buenos Aires Jewish community and the ISraeli embassy there ere exploded by themselves. Or better, by the zionist regime (to Richard, there isn’t any proof that Al Qaeda attacked the WTO buildings – ask the persian president).

          “Israel have constantly said that “all options are on the table” and threatened to use its nukes in the late 1960s” – Again, Israel never confessed that it has nulear weapons, Therefore , your argument is false.

          “Not to mention when Israel threatened palestinians with a nuclear attack.” – Are you serious?did you read the article? It’s funny because there isn’t any clue to the word “nuclear” from the mouth of Liberman and about the atomic bombs it’s arutz 7 commentary. Not to mention that Liberman didn’t talk about all the Palestinians. He talked about fighting with Hamas which shoots rockets on populated areas by its satellites organizations. He talked not about nukes, he said that Israel must destroy Hamas’s will to fight. And you think he threatened to nuke them (ROFL). you should know that if Israel will nuke the Palestinians in Gaza or in the west bank the nuclear fallout will effect Israel. Really, you should. And one more thing about it – When Liberman said this kind of thing he didn’t have any position in the government of Israel.

          “What does it matter if Iam muslim then” – Who said that you are muslim? I said that if you live in Muslim or Arab country you shouldn’t open your history books because you would not find anything about the history of the Jews.

          If you were a little more open-minded and less brainwashed you would have known that in Israel there isn’t any Islamic history at all and if there is, It’s biased.” – It’s not. but I liked the mature comment. I hope you learn something about Hayber battle.

          ” The question you should ask yourself is why the zionist groups didnt accept a ‘no’ by the palestinians” – No for what? To establish a state of their own?

          “Not to mention why zionists groups carried out cleansing of palestinians even on the area that was not supposed to to Israel anyway” – And again it seems that the attacker become the victim.

  5. Great headline!
    By the way: I thought Hezi had been banned after he called you a “bored adolescent housewife”.
    That was the silliest comment I ever read here. It made me grin all day.

  6. Assassinated Iranian nuclear scientists or attempts at such in 2010 2011:

    12 Jan 10: Masoud ali Mohammadi, killed, Tehran.
    29 Nov 10: Majid Shahriari, killed, Tehran
    29 Nov 10: Fereidoun Abbasi Davani, wounded, Tehran
    23 Jul 11: Daryush Reza’inezhad, killed,Tehran

    So as not to suggest Iranians are the only victims, such assassinations have occurred in France, India, South Africa, Pakistan, Jordan, and Slovak Republic.

    Details, including sources, available for the Iranian cases noted above.

    Sources, particulars, collateral damages

  7. Shedding some light on the latest IAEA-inspired slurs….

    David Albright has spent the last few weeks touting shock! horror! stories regarding:
    1) Syrian textile mills that were originally designed to house centrifuges
    2) “bus-sized steel containers” that – what else? – can only mean research into warhead detonation
    3) The dastardly work of a “Soviet-era nuclear scientist” by the name of Vyacheslav Danilenko

    Yossi Melman (amongst others) then breathlessly repeat Albright’s “revelations” as irrefutable truths.

    But here’s what a few minutes of googling has revealed:
    1) The Syrian textile mill was not designed by rogue Pakistanis or Nth Korean technocrats, but by a German conglomerate called “Texproject”, who were asked in the 1980s to design…. a textile factory.

    Their web site is here:
    http://www.texprojekt.com/
    and they proudly list that textile mill as one of “theirs” here:
    http://www.texprojekt.com/de/referenzen.html

    2) It turns out that bus-sized steel containers are especially useful as detonation tanks for the manufacture of (very valuable) “nanodiamonds”, a research area in which the Iranians have been very active.

    Q: Who holds the patent on nanodiamond detonation tanks?
    A: Why, none other than…….

    3) Vyacheslav Danilenko, that’s who.

    Indeed, Danilenko was part of the team that DISCOVERED nanodiamonds, and it has been his chosen area of research since at least the 1960s.

    Get it?

    The dude isn’t a “nuclear scientist”, never has been, but he *is* an expert on an area of nanotech that utilizes “bus-sized steel containers” i.e. Iran are making nanodiamonds, and Danilenko is being employed to help the Iranians to make them.

    Don’t take my word for it, any more than I suggest you take the word of Yossi Melman (nor, God-forbid, David Albright).

    Google it up for yourself:
    “Syrian textile factory” and “texprojekt”
    “Detonation tank” and “Vyacheslav Danilenko”

    You *are* all being lied to, and the lies aren’t even convincing.

    1. JB: “Vyacheslav Danilenko, that’s who.”

      Interesting, thanks JohnBoy, I was waiting for the release tomorrow of the IAEA report to sift through what I expect to be rehashed “old” claims which failed to impress previously when ElBaradei was in charge and now that he’s not ….

      I googled “Vyacheslav Danilenko” and the second entry on the first page is a link to the Nanotechnology Institute in Philadelphia, where according to the links synopsis..

      “Dr. Vyachevslav Danilenko Nanodiamond Lecture … “Nanodiamonds: Reactor Design and Synthesis,” by noted Ukrainian scientist Dr. Vyacheslav Danilenko. …”

      Unfortunately, when clicking on it, it simply displays a “Not Found Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn’t here.” on the institutes website, however the page is cached by google and the page as it appeared on 5 Nov 2011 20:33:30 GMT reads:

      “Dr. Vyachevslav Danilenko Nanodiamond Lecture
      On January 29, the AJ Drexel Nanotechnology Institute sponsored a Nanodiamond Lecture, “Nanodiamonds: Reactor Design and Synthesis,” by noted Ukrainian scientist Dr. Vyacheslav Danilenko. Dr. Danilenko was among the first to demonstrate detonation synthesis of diamonds and has more than 30 years experience in the design of reactors for the synthesis of nanodiamonds. Seventy-five students and researchers attended the event at the William F. Mitchell Auditorium in the Bossone Research Enterprise Building at Drexel University.”

        1. The only problem with that argument is that report wasn’t made by some opportunist in the US government but by the IAEA which his chairman had finally the courage to disclose all the facts and sign this report.

    2. You are all lyiing!!!! The IAEA’s scientists are lying too!! It’s all about the Zionist power in the US government and in the IAEA. Shame on you guys who think this report isn’t prejudice against Iran!!!

        1. Well, I’m not hysterical at all. I will read the report of un-prejudice agency (now after Al Barada’i left it) as all of you and conclude the conclusions. You should do it too.

          1. Yes, because a report under AMANO who according to the Wikileaks is biased in favor of the US is ever so much more reliable now.

  8. RE: “There might have been a way through negotiation and diplomacy to persuade Iran to forego its nuclear arms program (if it has one).” ~ R.S.

    SEE: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Iran: Secrets of the Troika ~ by Michael Teitelman, Counterpunch, 11/03/11
    (excerpts)

    …In 2003, the Iranian government made a formal diplomatic proposal for direct, comprehensive negotiations about all major issues, grievances, and conflicts that fueled the hostility in their dealings with each other. This was a critical juncture in Iranian-American relations. It offered the possibility of exiting the impasse that began with the overthrow of the Shah and the occupation of the American embassy in 1979.
    Bush did not respond to the Iranian offer. Not for the first time in his dealings with the Middle East, he eschewed diplomacy. His decision went unannounced and unexplained. Eight years later, it is still a non-event. Instead, he chose to intensify the long standing policy U.S. policy of vilification, distrust, isolation, sanction, and threat of military attack…
    …Amazingly, there was apparently no serious deliberation in the U.S. government about how to respond to Iran. Colin Powell was reportedly dumbfounded by Bush‘s decision to ignore the proposal…
    …There is one rationale that the troika could not express publicly, then or now. It is easy conjecture that they punted because they knew that talking directly with Iran, irrespective of the outcome of negotiations, would undermine pursuit of their superpower fantasies of pre-emptive attack and regime change…
    …So now the U.S. is beleaguered throughout the Middle East and stuck in a tense, fruitless standoff with Iran…

    SOURCE – http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/03/secrets-of-the-troika/

    1. dickerson:

      Yes it was created with the meddler of AIC.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American%E2%80%93Iranian_Council

      but bush refused it.

      “In 2003, the AIC helped Iran initiate an offer to the United States, known as the “Grand Bargain”. Before invading Iraq, the Bush administration rebuffed a series of overtures from Iran’s reformist government — among them offers to help the United States stabilize Iraq after the invasion — which culminated in a secret proposal for a grand bargain resolving all outstanding issues between the United States and Iran, including Iran’s alleged support for terrorism and the development of its nuclear program. The United States, which had branded Iran part of the “axis of evil,” decided on a confrontational approach. (See PBS Frontline Documentary showing on October 23, 2007.)”

  9. VIENNA (AP) — The U.N. nuclear atomic energy agency says that Iran is suspected of conducting secret experiments whose sole purpose can only be the development of nuclear arms.

    The conclusion is contained in a restricted International Atomic Energy Agency report obtained by The Associated Press Tuesday, shortly after it was circulated to the IAEA’s 35-nation board and to the U.N. Security Council.

    The report says that while some of the suspected secret nuclear work by Iran can have peaceful purposes, “others are specific to nuclear weapons.”

    A 13-page attachment to the agency’s Iran report details intelligence and IAEA research that shows Tehran working on all aspects of research toward making a nuclear weapon, including fitting a warhead onto a missile.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i_yoPkyX0_8aFE7Yqp32ByJ1CP4A?docId=2ccec8048b7944d8835bc0a40468b75d

    When it says “restricted” does that mean “we” wont get to read it?

      1. True, just like they refuse to show any evidence on the so called iranian-saudi-attacker some weeks back. Why? Because there is no hard evidence.

        1. Gareth Porter just published a convincing piece saying that this was a sting not to capture Arbabsiar, but to net the IRG & that Arbabsiar was going along w. the feds to get them. But I don’t think they got the goods on the IRG at all.

    1. They are lying. This report was written by the zionists and the US.

      “When it says “restricted” does that mean “we” wont get to read it?” – when it says “restricted” it means that lives are depending on these restrictions.

  10. JONDS:

    “No, there’s no doubt but to say that a president went to war because of AIPAC is unrealistic. You seem not to give any credit to the president of the most powerful state in the world.”
    Lobbying is an important tool, aipac have said to be in the top 3 lobbying groups on the White house. Nr 1 on middle east questions. aipac and their sponsors give money to the congress etc to carry out their wishes, on the mideast its more than obvious that this group have not only power but too much power.

    “ so? It’s all about intrests of the US.”
    Its because the strong bond to israeli lobby and the zionists in congress that value Israel more than America (just note the absurd round of applause netanyahu got when he spoke in front of them some months ago). US doesnt gain anything by supporting more illegal settlements and landgrab.

    “So? During the Oslo agreements the US guaranteed Israel that the state of Palestine will be established by the acceptebce of both sides and that there will be no one-sided actions. Obama stood by this guarantee. The same applies for the UNESCO bid.”
    You make no sense, first you say that US base their choices on “no unilateralism”, well then tell us why US havent sanctioned Israel for 1. Continued settlements? 2. Continued occupation? 3. Continued Blockade? 4. Continued annexation? etc or are those not unilateral moves? You see, your argument is false. Question is, do you know it and still use the rhetoric or didnt you know of your false argumentation?

    “ Who said that the settelments are illegal? by what law? and before you will turn me to the Genvea convenion you should no that these territories weren’t in the control of any Palestinian sovereignty.”
    Settlement are illegal according to Geneva conventions. Israel is a occupying power (even so according to US) and as a occupying power you are not allowed to 1. Annex 2. Move your population into the occupied area. Thats what israel been doing for decades.

    “So? Israel apologized to the Egyptans. What stance Obama should take? Not to mention that the terrorists who attack civilians on the territory of Israel did that from Egypt and near their posts without any interference.”
    Thats terrorism, that should be sanctioned, condemned etc, Nothing happend just to please its “friend” Israel.

    “Well, the Buenos Aires Jewish community and the ISraeli embassy there ere exploded by themselves. Or better, by the zionist regime (to Richard, there isn’t any proof that Al Qaeda attacked the WTO buildings – ask the persian president).”
    Thats a case closed, there is proven fact who did it. So please stop your warmongering libel or crocodile tears for that matter.

    “– Again, Israel never confessed that it has nulear weapons, Therefore , your argument is false.”
    Its a well known fact Israel have nukes, I recommend you read the history regarding Dimona and the fuzz around it and then dig into when Israel tried to use nukes in 1967. Such a regime shouldnt be allowed to have nukes taking in regard their war-starting history. Its like giving a 3 yr old a gun.

    “– Are you serious?did you read the article? ”
    Yes I am serious, you want to deny that US dropped two bombs on the gov of Japan. Israel want to drop nuclear bombs on the gov of Gaza. You obviously have no shame accepting such genocide rhetoric. Since it is ok for you when Israel say such things. Try changing Liberman with Khaaled and we see who starts to cry.

    “– Who said that you are muslim? I said that if you live in Muslim or Arab country you shouldn’t open your history books because you would not find anything about the history of the Jews.

    If you were a little more open-minded and less brainwashed you would have known that in Israel there isn’t any Islamic history at all and if there is, It’s biased.” – It’s not. but I liked the mature comment. I hope you learn something about Hayber battle.

    Once again this self-gloryfying, sure the arab states have their view of the conflict (which is also more in line with the correct one) but so do Israel. Everything from that nakba never happend to that palestinians arent a people, to arabs are dirt. I read israeli books. You should read some other books that israeli zionist historians, that will open your mind. But just for fun, please let us know which authors that are good and show a factual history of the conflict. Please tell us.

    ” – No for what? To establish a state of their own? ”
    Yes why didnt zionist groups accept that palestinians didnt want to divde the land?

    “ – And again it seems that the attacker become the victim.”
    Please answer my question, I repeat it:
    “Not to mention why zionists groups carried out cleansing of palestinians even on the area that was not supposed to to Israel anyway?”

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