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  1. There was another piece I saw yesterday (I’m not sure where) by a polling company who said that three weeks before the election their data suggesting Ahmadinejad was heading for a landslide victory. I’m still very cynical, but until we know for sure what’s happened, it’s important to be open to all possibilities.

    1. Everyone concedes that Moussavi’s campaign didn’t really take off until the last few weeks of the election. But everyone also concedes that when it did take off it simply blew Ahmadinejad out of the water.

      Look, most Americans knew that George Bush stole the 2000 election with the help of a right wing Supreme Court. Yet most American’s did not take to the streets in their hundreds of thousands as they’re doing in Iran. The Iranian people know something that neither you nor Hassan seem to know, that their election was stolen from them. I truth that they’re right.

  2. THe “economic mismanagement” of Ahmadinejad has been overblown. Poeple don’t necessarily blame him for their economic situation, which predates his election, and in fact Ahmadinejad has increased the pay of civil servants etc. so there is good reason for them to vote for him.

    And there isn’t enough historical data to suggest that electoral districts in Iran can’t shift radically in the course of hot elections, so that doesn’t prove anything either.

    And he didn’t say there are no gays in Iran — he said there are no gays LIKE IN THE US meaning an openly gay culture.

    Made a mockery of himself? I don’t think so. In fact I know of LATIN AMERICANS who like his populist style of anti-imperialism.

    1. Ah, we have an apologist for Iranian clericalism. How nice!

      He didn’t say there are no homosexuals in Iran?? This is a quotation of what he actually said (not what you claim he said):

      “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country. In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I do not know who has told you that we have it.”

      All you had to do was Google this to find out what he actually said. Couldn’t be bothered though could you?

      Made a mockery of himself? I don’t think so. In fact I know of LATIN AMERICANS who like his populist style of anti-imperialism.

      You mean Hugo Chavez and the few million of his fellow socialists citizens who admire Ahmadinejad as one crazy leader to another. Of course Ahmadinejad is admired in all the finest places like Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea. He’s got friends in all the right places and he’s got a friend in you. How nice for you both.

  3. Incidentally, Ahmadinejad was the governor of an Azeri province and speaks the language fluently — which can explain why he would win. Also, you’re assuming that Azeris will necessarily have an affinity to vote for Azeris, which is not true. They’re a very well integrated minority, with a lot of intermarriage. The Supreme Leader himself is Azeri.

    1. He is hated in the Azeri provinces and won 9% of the vote there in the last election. So that explains why he couldn’t have won 55% this time.

      Every region in the world loves a native son & votes for them in droves. The times when this is not the case are incredibly few. This is a phenomenon everywhere whether its in an Azeri region, St. Louis or Istanbul.

  4. What an awful tragedy for the students at Tehran University and the other people killed so far by this repressive government. The Iranian people deserve so much better than this. In many respects Iran is one of the more enlightened, advanced corners of the Middle East, what with a lot of women in the professions and a pretty robust, knowledgeable, (even) cosmopolitan middle class. It’s certainly an advanced fairly progressive society in comparison with that feudal backwater Saudi Arabia, our great ally and official “moderate Arab regime”. It is interesting that with evidence or at least suspicion that the election wasn’t honest, you see the Iranian people in the streets fighting for democracy, again, rather more than can be said for my own country back in 2000 (when there was even clearer evidence of a stolen election). Who has the more intact civil society, I ask. Let’s give the Iranians a chance to figure their own society and politik out without bombing or nuking them, please. I know this is a tall order for you bloodthirsty neocons out there.

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