I don’t think I’ve ever used the term in the title of this post to describe a fellow Jew before. I generally detest the phrase since it’s so misused. But how else to properly describe the strange attitudes of baal teshuvah, Justin White, who so detests so many of his fellow Jews. And it’s not only that he detests us, but that he uses the same racialist terminology used by Hitler to demean Jews. Only in Justin’s case, he’s demeaning the vast majority of world Jewry who are not Orthodox.
For those who believe I’m overstating my case regarding him, read the following:
My father is actually Korean and mother is German-American (whoops you MESSED up). You are more inbred than I could ever be, and I see that by looking at your photo.
The use of the term “inbred” is a perhaps unintentional echoing of Nazi slurs against the Jews as is the notion that you can read racial characteristics about someone based on their picture.
So is this what Judaism has come to in the hands of a twisted human being like Justin White? Is it nothing more than a way for him to prove his racial superiority over those Jews he reads out of the race? And if this is so, hasn’t White given Hitler a posthumous victory?
I find the following passage astonishing because the italicized passage echoes, in some sense, the claims of anti-Zionists who say that the European Jews who settled Israel have no direct connection or claim to the country. Here White actually has the chutzpah to attempt to strip non-Orthodox Jews of any claim on being Jewish. To him, as with the anti-Zionists, we are a bunch of European interlopers with a bogus claim to Jewish authenticity:
I don’t believe in this word “orthodox” [sic] when it comes to Judaism…Instead of saying Torah or Judaism, people like Lerner and Silverstein (and Rabbi Brenda-the mascot of the “reform” “movement”), cleverly dub post-Semitic self-hate “Judaism” “reform ” or “conservative.” I resent being called “Orthodox right-wing…” I like the militant part.
Do you really think that Ruth would espouse the views you do concerning Judaism and our Arab neighbors (let’s leave them out of this)? She would be coming after people like you fast and furious (for sure better than I). Ruth was from Moav-a MIZRACHIT or Jew from the Middle-East. That is in contrast to people like Richard who are basically Europeans pretending to have some connection to the Judaism (when they aren’t helping are enemies).
…Mr. Silverstein is correct about my lack of humility. This is something for me to consider in these days of soul-searching.
The idea that the kind, loving Ruth would treat a fellow Jew with the boiling hatred with which White does is enough to turn my stomach. No Justin White, whether Jew or not, will wrench my tradition of love, compassion and tolerance from me.
Here is more in a similar vein:
…Your response to me is the heretic’s response to Torah Judaism. That so-called Seminary [Jewish Theological Seminary] is for sure Judianity-that don’t [sic] believe that the Torah is of divine origin-so it says on a conservative “conversion.”
As for “shande fahr di yidn,” I don’t speak Amalek! The fact that you quote Germanic-Hebrew back to an Israeli convert basically sums up the differences between you and me, Richard.
…A Jew who doesn’t know Hebrew is considered to be illiterate. Does that make you an embarrassment (I have been plugging away since 1996, sometimes on my own), or me the embarrassment for having been diligent.
It is you and Tikkun and Rabbi Brenda and the “Reform” movement that spews hate, Richard.
Only in the most extreme forms of Jewish Orthodoxy do non-Orthodox become “heretics.” You’ll also note that White claims that the Jewish Theological Seminary, which he claims espouses “Judianity,” is as good as promoting Christianity by bastardizing Judaism.
Though an Orthodox Jew–a large percentage of whom actually speak Yiddish–White doesn’t seem to know anything about the language. In fact, he commits the grave sin of calling Yiddish by the hateful term “Amalek.” I have never heard Yiddish described as “Germanic-Hebrew” and don’t know whether White is simply ignorant of the language or trying to smear it. Either way, his presumption and am-haaretz-ness is stunning.
I’ve had the displeasure of knowing this man, Tzadok. He knows me as Baruch.
Tell me, Tzadok (Sadducee), did you have any idea that R’ J.M. is half “Germanic-Hebrew”? You owe the Ashkenazim (that which you have so much contempt for, apparently) so much more than you realize.
Does R’ J.M. know how much hate you’re spreading here? Does R’ H.K. know about your willingness to embarrass your fellow Jew? If they had ANY idea you were spouting this garbage, they’d be shocked and ashamed through and through. Hell, even R.L. would tell you to “cool down, man.”
Maybe if you moved physically out of podunk Judenrein (OMGGASPGERMAN) Virginia, or mentally out of the Pennsyltucky of your background, and instead moved closer to the Jewish community where Klal Yisrael resides, you’ll probably see that Jews aren’t the narrow stripe that you idealize them to be. Hell, not even your favorite stop near the Nation’s Capital has that kind of “Orthodoxie uber alles” (there I go again with the Germanic thing) hashkafa!
Alternatively, if you’re already in Israel, get out of the enclaves of J’lem and West Bank settlements, and explore the Holy Land for all it has to offer.
Until then, for your proliferation of Sinat Hinam and public embarassment of your fellow Jew, you have clearly lost your Helek in the World to Come. I can only hope that HaRachaman can look favorably upon you in this coming Yom haKippurim in light of this.
And WTF does “post-Semitic” mean? Did you just make that up out of thin air?! Even when Jews don’t practice their religion, their identity is still distinctly Semitic. Again, do you have ANY idea what you’re spewing here?!
Also, the JTS DOES believe in Divine origin of Torah. Where are your sources stating the contrary?
Sadok was actually was the High Priest who anointed David and Solomon. Seems to me this guy “Baruch” doesn’t know a lot about Judaism. He is either an am ha-aretz or had a phony conversion (or both). Anyhow, I have lived in every major city in Israel-how about you “Baruch?”
I am entitled to invent what I want. I just went to a lecture in Jerusalem by a Rabbi Marcus who said that the “conservative movement” has drifted away from this. I had the lecture recorded. Apparently, you don’t know your own people. Another Orthodox Rabbi confirmed this 10 years ago when he saw a conversion certificate from someone who came to his yeshiva.
Mussur is not “spewing hate.” (You shall not hate your brother in your heart; you shall reason with your neighbor, and not allow sin on his account.) Mocking the holiest city in Israel and the surrounding “Biblical” areas constitutes spewing hate, especially when Jews are being murdered here. Am I being lectured by a child?
Richard Silverstein says
@Justin: You think that saying that Jerusalem should be shared with the Palestinians is “mocking” it?? That perfectly illustrates the bankruptcy of the extremist nationalist-settler ideology. This is incredibly racist though I know that doesn’t bother you in the least. The idea that sharing Jerusalem with the heathen, unwashed Muslims “constitutes spewing hate”–that, to me would guarantee Israel’s ultimate destruction were these views ever to prevail in a debate about the nation’s future.
I am not a child. I am the voice of reason & pragmatism. Yours is the voice of the lunatic fringe that would take Israel down the road to ruin.
Richard Silverstein says
Is that what you said to your professors in the Hebrew U. physics department when you tried to justify your research? It doesn’t work well in religion either.
John Dickerson says
Mentally ill individuals are often attracted to cults.
“Is that what you said to your professors in the Hebrew U. physics department when you tried to justify your research? It doesn’t work well in religion either.”
What is your obsession with physics? Life didn’t work out for you and you are stuck with this blog? I meant that if I want to say “post-Semitic” than I will. The entire leftist ideology is based upon inventing new terms like “secular Jew.” You are a hypocrite in saying I cannot have my own vernacular. Your comments just expose your own jealousy. Jealously is forbidden (10 Commandments). Again, as I said above, you need a yeshiva (Jewish) education.
Richard Silverstein says
Like I need a hole in the head. And btw, I HAVE a Jewish education. In fact, I’ve shown that your own Jewish education has holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through. You have an Orthodox Jewish education. Only chutzpanim like you believe there is only one acceptable form of Jewish education.