14 thoughts on “Alleged Iran Plot to Bomb Saudi Ambassador Foiled – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. why do you not see the benefits of this political tool and that Iran is dangerous and a threat to many nations? This may be beneficial to world security as Iran is known to use terrorism, practically main purpose of al-quds force. Sometimes law is not best tool for solving problems with countries that do not follow law and respect human rights. Could the UN solve these problems by itself?

  2. Why would they want to blow up an Argentinian Jewish Community Center? And yet… But even alleged terrorists get to benefit from the presumption of innocence, so I’ll wait and see what comes up at trial.

  3. I think you’re right, Richard. This is a clear escalation on the part of Israel-US targeting Iran. Obama may well try to maintain his shattered credibility through war, or his ‘understanding and acceptance’ of Israeli actions.

    We know how the Office of Special Plans was set up and operated under Bush. What is the parallel organization for the attack on Iran, or is it being co-ordinated through the usual State, Defense and WH channels?

    There’s no reason I’ve seen to believe that Panetta is actually resisting Netanyahu. More probably, he has set the limits of the initial US response to Israeli aggression.

    The now infamous veto and speech at the UN makes more and more sense from a politically strategic perspective.

    It’s just a question of time before Obama tells us that military action against Iran is, or was, necessary for a negotiated peace in Israel.

  4. My take on this is that the Obama administration is under assault.

    First, someone leaked Fast and Furious, implicating the entire Obama administration in a HUGE drug and arms scandal truly worthy of impeachment (by the way, these types of deals were put into fashion by none other than HW Bush as former CIA director). Holder was a key individual under pressure of subpoena.

    Then, Holder receives briefings that implicate Iran in an extraordinary plan no serious intelligence analyst would consider legitimate. He scurries to get the attention off of him with news of an Iranian espionage scheme on US soil.

    The controlled media runs into a “Iran terror” rage. Bringing in all sorts of pundits, “terror experts”, against a country, Iran, that in no way really espouses “terrorism”, suicide bombings, or plots of that nature. They are a State entity – not unprofessional.

    I bet someone told Holder and Hillary Clinton (purportedly a CENTRAL PLANNER of Fast and Furious) if he makes this press release, they will take the Fast and Furious pressure off him. Either that, or he was stupid enough to think it was a valid press release without vetting how crazy he would sound making statements like, “We will hold Iran accountable.”

    Few other notes:
    (1) Eric Holder is not the DHS Secretary, who is ordained to make these sort of announcements. Why did this come from the AG???
    (2) Why did Iranian agents who have already successfully breached US soil go to an untrustworthy Mexican drug dealer to assassinate SAUDI officials on AMERICAN soil?
    (3) Why was Eric Holder, an attorney (ATTORNEY GENERAL), make statements like “Iran must be held accountable” when he knew full-well the underlying trial hadn’t even been adjudicated yet?

    We know the answers to the above. Now, who really wants America to attack Iran? Who would want to bring the Saudis into the fold (especially their airway)?

    Ya. We know the answers to that, too. So do many segments of the US government who cannot air the laundry as a matter of national security because top level officials in our government are guilty of treason and conspiracy (some, by way of coercion/blackmail). When the smoke clears, hopefully people like you, Richard, will be able to prevent the criminals from scapegoating Judaism for their crimes.

  5. Before totally dismissing Iranian involvement, we need to look at Iranian domestic politics as to why this and why now.

    The Iranian government has distinctly decentralized parts that are sometimes in competition with each other.

    I don’t know my way around these internecine battles, so I have no answers here. But just like the USA and Israel have their internal and external reasons for possibly making this up, there are voices from within the government of Tehran that may see such an attack as garnering themselves greater power within Iran.

    That ultimately the costs of such terror may not have gained them what they really wanted is also not a reason to dismiss that they may have been trying to do it. Terror often has the opposite consequences from the intentions: killing the Israeli team in Munich did not gain sympathy for the PLO, bombs and shootings at abortion clinics in the USA does not win converts to the “Pro-Life” side, killing Rabin did not stop people from wanting peace, etc, etc.

    Right now, this plot is as clear as mud. It needs looking at Iranians’ domestic motivations just as much as USA’s, Saudi’s and Israel’s.

    1. Sorry. I’ve considered all those factors & while no friend of the Iranian regime, simply don’t remotely believe any official Iranian entity would sanction this in any way. Even if we credit the fact that they would do this if they could get away with it (after all, the U.S. does things like this regularly, simply because it can), they are nothing if not pragmatic & realize that they couldn’t get away w. it & it would blow up in their faces.

  6. There is a motive here but why they were (if it’s true) targeting Adel al jubair is a mystery. The motive being, the unrest in the Kingdom (Saudi) the Arab Spring is reaching there, and the Saudi’s are blaming Iran without mentioning it.

    Saudi Arabia being an ally of the USA won’t get much sympathy.

    This may not even be a real plot, but one concocted by the State dept. after being harassed by the Saud’s.

    Or maybe it really was a plot. but why target Adel? and that too on US soil?

  7. It’s easy to spot the evidential shortfall in the USA’s claim against the Iranian govt.

    It is this: two guys are alleged to be involved
    a) an American citizen who is, obviously, an amateur and
    b) an Iranian citizen who is, obviously, the guy who could link the Iranian govt to this plot.

    The problem for the USA is that they have (a) in custody, but they don’t have (b) in custody.

    Indeed, based on what has been revealed so far it would appear that the USA Federal Agents know of (b) only as a voice at the end of a phone.

    So while they may have good evidence that two men planned to blow the Saudi Ambassador sky-high, that is a far cry from “proving” that one of those two men (the one they don’t have, remember) was taking his orders from Quds Force.

    1. Don’t forget that there’ a “CS-1” involved in this, that is, a “confidential source” i.e. paid informant with a drug dealing past. This fellow got into a scrape with the Feds & they came to him offering a deal in return for collaboration. As I’ve said before, the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

      1. The key is Gholam Shakuri, because what is most striking about all the reportage is that this mantra that is being repeated over and over again:
        “Gholam Shakuri, a member of the Quds force,”
        “Gholam Shakuri, a member of the Quds force,”
        “Gholam Shakuri, a member of the Quds force,”
        “Gholam Shakuri, a member of the Quds force,”

        That allegation is being presented as a self-evident truth i.e. if the US government says that Shakuri is an Iranian spook then that is exactly what he is.

        Why should we accept that allegation at face value?

        Don’t get me wrong: there appears to be plenty of evidence linking Shakuri as a co-conspirator with Arbabias, but that IN ITSELF is not evidence that Shakuri is a member of Qods Force.

        The US government has to substantiate that claim, and if it can’t then it has no case against the Iranian government, merely a conspiracy case involving two losers and an undercover cop.

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