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Ethan Bronner Condescends to Avrum Burg

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35 Responses to “Ethan Bronner Condescends to Avrum Burg”

NILI says:

December 24, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Richard: “Would you mind telling us how you know what books are on the shelves of Israeli leftists?”

My weight-lifting partner is an Arab. We get along famously. I know couples who are mixed (left-right) and they are happy. The reality of life here is that people know one another regardless of what their personal passions are. It is VERY well plausible that one could visit the home of others who have a very different outlook. I for one do on a regular basis. Shabak is another story altogether (btw: no one here says Shin Bet-they are just two letters in the Hebrew alphabet).

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Richard Silverstein says:

December 24, 2008 at 3:53 PM

@NILI: Bar Kochba knows nothing about Israeli leftists I assure you. Or do you know him personally and are vouching for who his friends are? Bar Kochba’s buddies are in Tapuah & Migron. He doesn’t hang out much with Tel Aviv leftists.

As for Shabak or Shin Bet, thanks for the unnecessary lesson about how the agency is referred to in Israel. Shabak is not as well known a term in English. Hence I use the better understood Shin Bet.

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Richard Silverstein says:

December 24, 2008 at 3:57 PM

@amir: Wrong again. They demanded an agreement fr. Livni that she not negotiate Jerusalem’s fate with the Palestinians. That’s a stranglehold AND veto power. She happily thought better of the demand & said ‘no thank you’ to them.

I don’t need to ask her. In the wisdom of Israel’s “centrist” parties, they’ve decided that Arab parties are treif, a violation btw of the spirit of Israeli democracy such as it is. While she seems a pragmatist, she’s not willing to buck this poisonous notion that some legitimate Israeli political parties are toxic.

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NILI says:

December 25, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Richard: I don’t know anyone on here! Israelis are a small group relatively speaking-Israel is quite small. We all know each other and contrary to what some outsiders seem to think, people are not SO segregated according to political or religious belief. Even haredim have relatives who are secular or dati-leumi. It’s a mixed bag. It is not possible to live in such a confined placed without everyone knowing one another. My friends in USA also say Shin-Bet, which has no meaning in Israel. I think people should use Israeli terms, like Haredi instead of ultra-orthodox. They seem so outdated!

Everyone: Here is a recent post from Isi Leibler that confirms my previous sentiments: “Paradoxically, the Hebrew version of Burg’s book caused barely a ripple, for the simple reason that most Israelis simply wrote him off.”
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230111687814&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Enjoy the holidays!

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Richard Silverstein says:

December 25, 2008 at 3:32 PM

@NILI: Using Isi Liebler as the arbiter of Israeli opinion is ridiculous. Isi Liebler is an extreme nationalist and pro settler (& writing in the right wing J. Post besides). What would you expect him to say?

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