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  1. It’s not over till the fat lady sings. There is now tremendous pressure on him, Ayelet Shaked and Gideon Saar to go back to Bibi with lots of promises that Bibi will never keep. Tomorrow is an eon in Israeli politics.

    The suggested coalition is not really ‘center-left’ but rather a form of unity government including left center and right. I don’t think anyone in Israel would define Meretz or Avoda as center. If your definition of left is only suitable for progressive parties, then all Zionist parties are center-right, but that is not Israeli or general Western parlance.

    1. @ Shai: I did not say the coalition is “center-left.” Of course it’s not. It ranges from far-right parties to center-left parties. I would call it overall a center-right coalition.

      Considering the Labor Party as a left party, as many in Israel do, is a total misnomer in western terms. It is a center-right party in those terms. If Sen Joe Manchin were Israeli, he’d feel at home in the Labor Party.

  2. Richard, in this article you’ve refrained from calling Bennett a war criminal, which you’d done in the past.

    What’s happened to that (baseless) claim you’d made against him? Has your opinion changed?

      1. Sorry Willem, I prefer facts over cartoons.

        Eyewitness, David Zonsheine, the chairman of the board of B’Tselem, Israel’s preeminent human rights organization, who served in the same unit and took part in the mission, claimed on Facebook that there was nothing wrong with Bennett’s actions that night and that in any case, he couldn’t have been held responsible for the killing. Other members of Maglan came out in support of Bennett as well.
        http://972mag.com/blame-peres-not-bennett-for-the-qana-massacre/101046/
        http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.635638

        This bears repetition, “Eyewitness, David Zonshein, the chairman of the board of B’Tselem”.

        –and–

        Former Sayeret Matkal commanders Maj. Gen. (res.) Shai Avital, who was Bennett’s battalion commander; former Maglan commander Maj. Gen. (res.) Assaf Shavit; Col. (res.) Roni Balkin; another former Maglan commander, Lt. Col. Eyal Dayan, the current deputy commander of Maglan, and numerous other officers, signed a letter defending Bennet’s actions in Lebanon.
        http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Ex-IDF-commandos-defend-Bennett-against-accusations-he-caused-Kfar-Kana-massacre-386791

        I suppose though, that if you keep on repeating a libel, some people are bound to believe it.

        1. @ Mighty Mouse: Of course the senior command will defend Bennett as they will defend any officer accused of war crimes. Do you know of any senior officer who has turned on a subordinate under his direct command, and then accused his subordinate of war crimes? In effect, this implicates the senior commander with the same crime.

          As for the 972 story, it does not claim Bennett was not incompetent and That he didn’t cause the Qana massacre. It rather claims the overall policy of the entire operation of in effect a war crime. That doesn’t absolve Bennett by any means.

          And I note that you completely ignore Yigal Sara’s Yediot story, which is based on other eyewitness accounts, which accuses Bennett of a war crime. I’ve found in general that believing the claims of those who defend Israel from war crimes charges, especially when they are officers and so implicated thelsemves, is ridiculous. I’d rather believe an independent journalist with no personal interest or axe to grind.

          You clearly as an apologist for Israeli war crimes who clearly has a very big axe to grind.

          1. And I note that you completely ignore Yigal Sara’s Yediot story, which is based on other eyewitness accounts, which accuses Bennett of a war crime.”

            And the war crime Bennett is accused of is what? Exactly which war crime did Bennett commit?

            David Zonshein was an eyewitness, and he knows a great deal about war crimes, yet he doesn’t accuse Bennett of war crimes.

            Yigal Sara, no eyewitness and no authority on War Crimes, accused Bennett of gross incompetence, which isn’t a war crime.

            Looking around, the only person I see accusing Bennett of War Crimes is Richard Silverstein.

            So which is it Richard?
            Name Bennett’s war crime, please.
            You say he’s a war criminal, now prove it.

          2. @ Mighty Whitey: You mean getting your unit into a desperate situation and then having to call in massive air power which results in 100 civilian deaths isn’t a war crime? Oh I’d say he’s definitely culpable.

            Yigal Sarna is a journalist. Journalists break stories based on eyewitness sources, which he did in this case. So in this case Sara’s multiple eyewitness accounts against a single witness who says otherwise Trump’s the single eyewitness.

            I don’t respond to people demanding that I do things. So don’t order me around. I don’t owe you anything. So don’t act as if I do.

            Also, anyone who brags about murdering “Arabs” is a serial murderer. Murder in wartime is a war crime.

            Glad to see you defending Israel’s murderers and War criminals. Tells us all we need to know about you.

            You are done in this thread. Move on.

        2. Getting rid of the UN Observer post …

          Major Paeta Hess-von Kruedener, a Canadian Forces soldier serving with the UN in South Lebanon
           
          A few minutes later, at just before 19:30, an Israeli F-16 pilot managed to do what so many other pilots and gunners failed to do that day—he dropped his 1,000-pound GPS-guided JDAM inside the compound, inside the blown-off door of the stout little underground bunker. It exploded in the front room beside Jarno. All they ever found of Jarno was a piece of his hip.

    1. @ Might Mouse: Of course he’s a war criminal. Nor is the claim “baseless.” His own fellow soldiers and others who served in Lebanon accused him of gross incompetence. And the very fact that he boasted of how many Arabs he killed makes him a prime candidate for the Hague. But we will have to wait to see how many “Arabs” he kills as PM to see whether the ICC will formally accuse him.

  3. An underlying assumption is that if a truly “left” government arose, it would offer enough to the Palestinians to obtain peace. This is false, since, as the progressive American left has repeated, nothing would bring peace other than the dissolution of Israel as a Zionist country. No Israeli party, no matter how left, will advocate dissolving their own country. And this is the religion of the progressive left– that Jews, since they are mainly White and presently powerful– are by definition oppressors and are not worthy of their own national self-determination. So if they don’t repudiate these aspirations, they are racist, apartheid, and fascists.
    Another false assumption is that the oppression of American Blacks is the same as the treatment of the Palestinians. This reflects an ignorant and superficial understanding of the conflict, by groups such as BLM and others.

    1. @ DrS: there is nothing accurate in your account. It’s always problematic when Judeo-supremacists try to tell us what anti-Zionists believe. In your case, doubly so. It also raises a red flag when propagandists like you attempt to portray the “underlying assumptions” of the left. You don’t even understand the explicit views of the left, let alone the underlying ones.

      There is no chance of a “truly left government” arising in Israel. So all your posturing is irrelevant.

      What will bring peace is either Israel recognizing a Palestinian state and withdrawing to 67 borders; or Israel incorporating all Palestinians as full citizens of Israel with rights equal to Jews.

      In neither case would it cause the “dissolution of Israel.”

      The progressive left does not speak of “Jews” when it analyzes Israel. It speaks of Israelis some Jews and some non-Jews. Nor does the progressive left see all Israelis as “White.” To do so would be completely wrong since there are Mizrahi Jews who are Arab, not white.

      No one on the left says that Israeli Jews are not entitled to self-determination. In fact, almost everyone except possibly an extreme fringe agrees that Israeli Jews are entitled either to a state that lives peacefully alongside a Palestinian state, or as citizens of a single state in which they and Palestinian citizens have equal rights.

      The oppression of American and South African Blacks is indeed similar to that of Palestinians. That’s why the solidarity movement between them is so strong.

      As for “ignorance” “superficiality” and “bad faith,” you have the market cornered on that.

    2. This is pure anti-peace fear mongering based on anti-“left” anti-progressive broad brushing, straw man arguments, presumptions that are false. Regarding definitions, oppression is oppression regardless of who is doing it or why.

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