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  1. Ahh, how easy it is to sit home, in our safe, tony neighborhood, and judge men of action who risk their lives in service to their country. How easy it is.

    “Facebook actually censored my posting of this Wanted poster and suspended my account as “punishment.”

    Maybe because the founders of Facebook want their social media platform to bring friends and family together, and not to be used to expose undercover agents, putting their lives at risk. Should Facebook allow exposing the identities of DEA agents working in Latin America? Obviously not.

    “Not only is this a gross violation of international law, it jeopardized the safety of those doing genuine relief work in Gaza. It shows the complete and utter disregard for human decency of the IDF.”

    Please cite the specific international law that was violated.

    1. @P Spot:

      men of action

      “Men of action?” You mean invaders and killers?

      Maybe because the founders of Facebook want their social media platform to bring friends and family together

      Are you daft? Mark Zuckerberg couldn’t give a s*** about “bringing friends together.” He wants to make money. If bringing anyone together will make him more money, he’s for it. If someone or something threatens his golden goose in any way, he’ll throttle it. That means if the Israel Lobby and right wing censorious ministers pose a threat, then users like me will be put on ice.

      expose undercover agents, putting their lives at risk.

      Such bulls***. How have any lives been “put at risk?” Are there Hamas assassins lurking the streets of Petah Tikva? If so, you must let me know. I’d be happy to expose them as well. As for “undercover agents,” that is not what this unit was. It was a military force invading another territory. These were soldiers whose stupidity almost unleashed another war.

      Should Facebook allow exposing the identities of DEA agents working in Latin America?

      These are not DEA agents. Sayeret Matkal was not hunting drug dealers. It was invading and violating territorial sovereignty. It had no right to be there. And there is no reason Facebook should become the IDF’s handmaiden.

      Please cite the specific international law that was violated.

      Try this on for size: this is a blog post written by a professor of international law:

      Blackwater Assassins Posing as Aid Workers

      …Some of the Blackwater personnel, he said, work undercover as aid workers. “Nobody even gives them a second thought.”

      If this is true, the Blackwater employees are almost certainly engaged in acts of perfidy, defined by Article 37 of the First Additional Protocol as “inviting the confidence of an adversary to lead him to believe that he is entitled to, or is obliged to accord, protection under the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, with intent to betray that confidence.” Feigning civilian status is a prototypical example of perfidy.

      Blackwater’s perfidious acts could qualify as two different war crimes…In international armed conflict, Article 8(2)(b)(xi) prohibits “killing or wounding treacherously individuals belonging to the hostile nation or army,” while Article 8(2)(b)(vii) prohibits “[m]aking improper use of a flag of truce, of the flag or of the military insignia and uniform of the enemy or of the United Nations, as well as of the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions, resulting in death or serious personal injury.” In non-international armed conflict, Article 8(2)(e)(ix) of the Rome Statute prohibits “[k]illing or wounding treacherously a combatant adversary”; there is no non-international equivalent to Article 8(2)(b)(vii).

      If the Blackwater employees attacked combatants while impersonating aid workers, they would be guilty of “killing or wounding treacherously” regardless of the nature of the conflict. If they impersonated the aid workers using the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions and caused death or serious injury — a consequence requirement, interestingly, that goes beyond Article 38 of the First Additional Protocol, which simply prohibits misuse — they would be guilty of “making improper use” as long as the conflict qualified as international.

      Under this rubric, the Gaza operation was a war crime. I hope it will be prosecuted as such some day.

      You are done in this thread.

  2. Richard

    Two things

    I can see the smile on your face as you write the headline. How happy it must make you that he was killed by Israeli fire.

    Second your fake outrage at the violation of international law about the idf going undercover as aid workers.. if only you seemed as outraged by all the things the arabs do which are war crimes. Like firing rockets from civilian areas, or tunneling under kibbutz. Your outrage as always is selective

    1. @Moshe:

      I can see the smile on your face…

      IF you can see the smile on my face you are either hallucinating, clairvoyant, or smoking an illegal substance. Further, you may not predict or imagine my thoughts. You inevitably will not be not just wrong. but malevolently so.

      I am not happy when anyone is killed, whether Israeli or Palestinian. I never said a single word that would justify your disgusting lies about my purported views.

      Like firing rockets from civilian areas, or tunneling under kibbutz.

      You have a very easy way to end Palestinian resistance to your country’s strangulation of its territory. You can negotiate a peace agreement with Palestinians and end the conflict. The fact that refuse to do so, offers Palestinians every justification for defending themselves and resisting your illegal acts (collective punishment of civilians through siege violates international law).

      If you ever falsely portray my feelings or views again you will be banned. Take that as a warning.

  3. A gross violation of international law?
    Really?

    Let me try to make this as easy.

    (b) The mere use of undercover units does not constitute a violation of the prohibition of perfidy and treachery. Only undercover operations aimed at the killing or wounding of an adversary are prohibited as perfidious and treacherous.

    (d) Undercover operations aimed at the gathering of information are not prohibited as perfidious or treacherous acts and could be considered acts of espionage.

    See, link below, at Abstract.

    https://en.idi.org.il/media/6191/combatants_dressed_as_civilians.pdf

    And see, Recommendations, supra.

    “Undercover operations should be conducted for purposes of information gathering or to capture persons–an undercover combat operation aimed at the killing (or injuring) of an adversary could be considered as treacherous or perfidious and, therefore, should be avoided. While undercover operations for the destruction of military objectives are permissible as well, such operations can be conducted as long as no person is expected to be killed or injured as a direct result of such an operation.”

    I await your response, and relevant citations.

    1. @ P Spot:

      The mere use of undercover units does not constitute a violation of the prohibition of perfidy and treachery.

      It’s convenient that you omitted the salient portion of the provision of international law, which is that a hostile power may not kill treacherously. Donning civilian clothing and impersonating a Palestinian relief organization and then killing 20 Palestinians using that “cover” certainly constitutes “treachery” and “perfidy.” In fact, Israel’s policies in general toward the Palestinians fit those words. But that’s another story.

      Only undercover operations aimed at the killing or wounding of an adversary

      False. The statute does not say “aimed at.” It says that any killing involving the use of treachery is a violation. Thus, the killing of the Palestinians by the commandos was an act of treachery.

      Undercover operations aimed at the gathering of information are not prohibited as perfidious

      Isn’t it curious you left out the next sentence, which you yourself quoted:

      While undercover operations for the destruction of military objectives are permissible as well, such operations can be conducted as long as no person is expected to be killed or injured as a direct result of such an operation.”

      That’s a loophole big enough to drive a Mack truck through. If Sayeret Matkal didn’t ‘expect to kill or injure anyone’ in this mission then why were the soldiers armed? Why was the IAF put on notice to be ready to bomb the neighborhood to smithereens in the event the operation was exposed? You see you are hoisted on your own petard due to your laziness or incompetence in reading your own sources.

      If you try to argue that the operation’s primary mission was not to kill Palestinians and therefore it didn’t expect to kill anyone, I’m afraid that’s a loser. The best prognosis for the operation if it succeeded was that it would not kill them. But the worst was that all hell would break loose and lots of Palestinians would be killed. Which is what happened. Sorry, you lose.

      As I wrote, do not comment further in this thread.

      My patience is wearing thin. Prepare for landing at Ben Gurion. We hope you’ve had a pleasant trip. Hasbara Air flight 101 will be landing shortly.

  4. What is morally permissive and what is legally permissive are two different things.

    You claim that the Mista’arvim operation violated International Law and I am asking you for a cite to that law, because I can’t find what law was violated.

    Fourth Geneva Conventions of 1949? Hague Conventions? Treaties? Customary Law?

    Which one(s)?

  5. I’m am struggling to get a sense of your sentiment here.
    Are you a concern troll–pretending to care about the operational capability of the IDF and Israeli (or Hamas?) casualties?
    Or is it schadenfreude, gleefully rejoicing at the misfortune of your adversary, Israel?
    Who is your audience here? The anti-Israel crowd who loves hearing about an Israeli failure? Or to Israel supporters who want to see their army improve its competence and avoid failures in the future?

    I find it hard to believe that you actually wish the IDF well.

    1. @ DrS:

      I’m am struggling to get a sense of your sentiment here.

      Oh, I doubt it.

      Are you a concern troll–pretending to care about the operational capability of the IDF and Israeli (or Hamas?) casualties?

      I don’t respond to bad faith questions like yours.

      Or is it schadenfreude, gleefully rejoicing at the misfortune of your adversary, Israel?

      If you think that you’re an idiot. Are you?

      Who is your audience here?

      Are you my media advisor? My brand manager? I’ve been doing this for 20 years. My audience is clear. And if you can’t figure out who my audience is (hint, you’re among them), it’s not my responsibility to school you on the subject.

      I find it hard to believe that you actually wish the IDF well.

      I find it hard to believe you’re not a jackass.

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