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  1. Let’s assume that Jew and Arab decide to kiss and make up and live as one in Palestine-Israel.

    First order of business is reducing overpopulation by Haredim and Bedouin.
    Good luck with that.

    After that effort fails, Palestine-Israel has to build and upgrade infrastructure for the runaway population, estimated to double by 2050.
    https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/israel-confronts-its-changing-demographics

    How Palestine-Israel is going to meet the expectations of this undereducated under class of Haredim and Bedouin is a question best left for another day.

    Israel’s neighbours in Syria, Jordan and Egypt are not fairing well and their future is bleak.
    If distressed Africans can migrate to Israel, why shouldn’t distressed Syrians (Druze?), Jordanians (Palestinians) and Egyptians also migrate over their border? And lets not forget to include future Sub Saharan African migrants seeking asylum, etc.

    Oh. I almost forgot to mention the repatriation of 1,500,000+ Palestinian refugees excercising their newly granted right-of-return.

    So in the future, millions and millions of Arabs and Jews will all sing kumbaya and earn a living selling what to whom? Falafels to her poor neighbours? Not a lot of money in that.

    Tourism? Who’s going to want to come and visit this mess.

    Oh. Oh. Oh. Let’s put our rose-colored glasses back on so we can ignore or minimise how global warming and climate change will impact sunny Palestine-Israel.

    Yes, the future is looking good!

    1. @ Philly Frozen:

      First order of business is reducing overpopulation by Haredim and Bedouin.
      Good luck with that.

      I find this statement incredibly offensive and racist. Because you have been warned numerous times about earlier comment rule violations and because I find you generally offensive, you are now moderated. Oh and btw, your comment was off-topic as well.

      Palestine-Israel has to build and upgrade infrastructure for the runaway population, estimated to double by 2050.

      All of a sudden you’re concerned about Israeli quality of life. But I see you’re only concerned about the quality of life of secular, Ashkenazi Jews like yourself. Haredim and Palestinians, not so much. For your information, demographers (that is, academics and professionals with degrees in the subject, unlike you) have studied precisely this subject (this too is worth reading and considering) and found Israel contains tracts of land that are relatively underutilized and which could easily accomodate whatever population increase you’re talking about. But you didn’t know about that, did you? If you did, you wouldn’t have mentioned it anyway because it would be terribly inconvenient. But lucky for you, because I read and research a great deal on these subjects, I saw the study. That’s just so I can keep fools like you honest, or as close to it as I can get.

      Israel’s neighbours in Syria, Jordan and Egypt are not fairing well and their future is bleak.

      And you’re an expert on the “future” of these countries, how? Oh that’s right, you’re not an expert on them at all. In fact, you know next to nothing about them. Remind me to call on you when you develop some expertise, real expertise, on the subject.

      If distressed Africans can migrate to Israel, why shouldn’t distressed Syrians (Druze?), Jordanians (Palestinians) and Egyptians also migrate over their border? And

      Xenophobic, much? Immigrants and refugees flocked to this country for centuries from far more countries than these. It didn’t do us any harm. In fact, the opposite.

      But how many of these people will want to uproot their lives to make a new life in a country that is so different and alien from their own? Africans face bone-breaking poverty, civil war and genocide. Citizens of the countries you mention? Not so much. They have little motivation to flee these countries…unless Israel commences a war against them. Then they will have to flee, but not to Israel, so not to worry about the flood of “wretched refuse” to your shores.

      Oh. I almost forgot to mention the repatriation of 1,500,000+ Palestinian refugees excercising their newly granted right-of-return.

      Once again, Israel and Palestinian demographers and other experts have been through these matters and estimate that the numbers of direct descendants of Nakba expellees who will return is in the low to mid-hundreds of thousands. Not, 1.5 million. Not even 1-million. And let’s not forget that Israel absorbed over 1-million Russians in little more than a decade. That was a feat of acculturation and integration almost as large as what would face Israel absorbing 400-500,000 returning Palestinians.

      So in the future, millions and millions of Arabs and Jews will all sing kumbaya

      No, because unlike you, who sits on your ass and cynically opines shit you know nothing about, there will be some Israeli officials who will be empowered to figure out ways to accomodate this influx. They will have the financial means to do so because the world will help finance it. They may even have the will to do is if Israelis ever get off their high horses and realize that they will only survive if they do. That means renouncing the demagoguery of nitwits like you. It may happen, who knows. But if it doesn’t, in a generation or two you or your children will be living somewhere Jews can live in peace, somewhere like New York, Los Angeles, or even London or God forbid, Paris. Because you couldn’t or wouldn’t compromise with the dark Arab masses clamoring for your land and your life.

      Let’s put our rose-colored glasses back on so we can ignore or minimise how global warming and climate change will impact sunny Palestine-Israel.

      That’s rich coming from someone pimping (that word is a reflection on you more than the country itself) for a country which has wrought environmental havoc not only inside its own borders, but on its neighbors when it goes to war against them and bombs their infrastructure to shit so that it defiles the environment of the entire eastern Mediterranean. If Israel is affected by global warming or another environment disaster to face, it has itself largely to blame.

      I can’t stand you. Good riddance.

      Oh, and you’re using a VPN or IP proxy to conceal your location and identity. Can’t stand that either.

      1. Planned parenthood is racist and offensive to who?
        Hypocritical Richard?

        Your Palestinian refugee demographic study is risible. Your link is dated by twenty years and thus short 2 million Palestinian refugees . Who’t the fool? They guy who uses current demographic data, or the boob who uses stale, old data?

        There will be no ‘Israeli’ quality of life in the future Palestine-Israel. There will just be an equal number of Jews and Arabs both sharing a miserable quality of life.

        “But lucky for you, because I read and research a great deal ”

        Well you clearly don’t read Arab newspapers.
        https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2018/2/5/riots-break-out-in-jordan-over-bread-price-hikes
        Egypt’s future? Ask an Egyptian.
        http://www.egyptindependent.com/egypt-may-face-fresh-water-shortage-2025/

        “Xenophobic”

        Why not put your money where your big mouth is and sponsor a refuge? NIMBY?
        Have your reached into your pocket and donated money to help ANY migrants?
        Please tell us the name of the charity you’re recommending your readers contribute to.

        “I can’t stand you. Good riddance.”
        I love you.

        1. @ Philly Frozen: I have approved this message only to explain why I’ve now banned you. I wanted to answer your swill before I introduced your permanent ban.

          Planned parenthood is racist and offensive to who?

          Planned Parenthood doesn’t single out Bedouins to suppress their population growth. You do.

          Your Palestinian refugee demographic study is risible. Your link is dated by twenty years

          You conveniently neglected to acknowledge my link to the Al Jazeera interview with the same demographer from 2005. Some numbers may’ve changed but the fundamental fact that large swaths of Israeli territory are unpopulated or underpopulated.

          There will be no ‘Israeli’ quality of life in the future Palestine-Israel. There will just be an equal number of Jews and Arabs both sharing a miserable quality of life.

          Once again, not a government planner, not a sociologist, not a demographer, not a developer. Just a pro-Israel apologist shootin’ the shit. And that’s all your opinions are worth.

          As for turmoil in the Arab world: big deal. There were mass protests in Israel over the same issues. THere were riots in Paris a decade ago by immigrants. Terribly violence. Does that mean France is going down the tubes? Is there poverty and unrest in the Arab world? Sure. Does that mean that millions of refugees from these places will flood the border with Israel or even attempt a mass exodus to Europe? No. Not unless Israel or other Middle Eastern countries invade them and provoke a civil war.

          Why not put your money where your big mouth is and sponsor a refuge

          I don’t answer to you big shot. I don’t owe you any explanation or apologies and you won’t be getting them. I’ll compare my values and moral commitments to you any day and come out far ahead. I’m willing to bet I’ve donated 10 times what you have to such charities.

          I love you.

          Go F-yourself.

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