23 thoughts on “Trump Renounces Iran Nuclear Deal – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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      1. ‘That silly flag deserved it! ;-)\’

        Gratifying as you may find it, that’s really not a useful remark.

        It makes the evil emperor rub his hands together — but that’s not a good thing.

    1. That is such a puerile trick Elena: Calling everyone who has a grievance against you, no matter how justified, a ‘hater’.

      As in: Why do you hate the Palestinians so much, Elena? Why do you hate the Iranians so much, Elena?
      Explain me your hatred, Elena. etc. etc.

    2. @Elena: you’re like the Energizer bunny. You keep on trying in your own pathetic fashion.

      If America had killed as many of your co-religionists as we have and overthrown your leaders and trained your intelligence apparatus to torture, you’d be shouting the same slogans.

    3. ‘Who are the haters here?’

      …and Iran has so much to be grateful and appreciative of America for.

  1. I predict that Iran will return to the negotiating table and make another deal with the United States.

    The Iranian economy is in a tailspin and neither Rouhani nor Khameni’s IRGC (Praetorian Guard) ,want to be in the pilot’s seat when Iran’s economy crashes.

    1. ‘I predict that Iran will return to the negotiating table and make another deal with the United States…’

      I think you’re a cynical and mendacious agent of darkness.

      ‘For it is evil things we shall be fighting…’

      1. @Colin

        “I think you’re a cynical and mendacious agent of darkness.”
        ‘For it is evil things we shall be fighting…’

        ‘Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. For if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you’–Nietzsche

        1. ‘Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. For if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you’–Nietzsche’

          Sounds good, I guess. But I’m trying to see how this works out to make any point you might want to make. I mean, I’m certainly not fighting Iran. Is it Israel that is ‘the monster’?

          Perhaps more the evil that Israel incarnates? I suppose that could make sense — paying attention to Israel certainly isn’t good for me. However, it’s improbable that’s what you mean. Help me out here.

    2. @Elena: I’m about as interested in your predictions as I am in those of the Westboro Baptist Church. Keep ’em to yourself. Not worth a bucket of warm piss.

      Rumors of Iran’s death are greatly exaggerated.

      1. ‘Rumors of Iran’s death are greatly exaggerated.’

        So one hopes. I tend to be less optimistic than you. Sometimes, evil wins.

    3. Elena you must be either naive or do not understand what negotiation means. If Trump’s USA doesn’t offer Iran anything it is ready to keep, what is there to negotiate? If USA would offer Iran for example a nuclear free Middle East (= disarming Israel’s WMD’s) Iran certainly would be interested to negotiate, but demanding Iran to disarm itself of traditional weapons is no option for Iran with neighbours like Saudi Arabia and Israel. Obviously you Israelis think that also others are like Palestinian leaders, ready to negotiate with Israel for decades when Israel offers nothing and makes constantly absurd new demands.

      Iran has in the world the fifth highest total estimated value of natural resources. Iran has 10 percent of the world’s proven oil reserves and 15 percent of its gas reserves. On the fields of research and engineering Iran has been rising fast. Israel is nowadays behind Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia with the volume of scientific research. 20 years ago Israel was the first, now it is Iran.

      We begin to get closer the inevitable situation where the major powers of Eurasia are forced to begin to form a real military / financial / industrial alliance against the “Atlantic” side. What will Israel do when first Iran and then Turkey go under the protection of China and Russia? If somebody in USA’s and Israel’s regimes seriously believe that China, India, Japan, Korea and European nations want to see (=allow) Iranian assets to be destroyed and the Persian Gulf to be closed, they must have a very limited understanding of economical and military realities. US sanctions and closing out of the dollar “system” has day after day less effect when the opposite side has more means to circulate the US sanction pressure. Iran has already stopped using US dollars. Europe will be forced to create real counter measures when USA blackmails European companies doing business with ever increasing list of US sanction targets. All this makes USA politically and economically weaker.

      War in Iran with infrastructure destroyed in famous Israeli/American style would mean 10 to 20 million new refugees heading towards Europe. Do you in Israel really believe that Europeans and their leaders do not understand that? Europe can not and will not tolerate new massive Völkerwanderungen caused by the wars organised by Israel/USA/fundamental Sunni Arabs.

  2. ‘While no one can predict who the next president will be, chances are it will be a Democrat at least as committed to the JCPOA as Obama was…’

    That’s optimistic. Anyway, this whole thing — in particular, the breathtaking cynicism and open aggression displayed by Israel — really surpasses comment. One can only think of certain forbidden points of comparison — the run-up to 1939-45 for example.

  3. I don’t understand how Netanyahu figures he avoids war by attacking a sovereign country. Are the Israeli’s so spooked by Iran that they are up for such escalation and feel there will be no repercussions? I guess it’s been years of drumming it in to the public that Iran is to fear, not the Palestinian issue.

    Trump is turning up the volume on American exceptionalism as if we can call the shots as oil prices rise.

  4. Awpp…got a strike. Cast again to the same spot and this time slow the retrieve…

    ‘Israeli Military: Iran’s Quds Force Fires 20 Rockets From Syria at Golan Posts, Some Were Intercepted’

    I can relate. This is like catching bass during the spawn. Just gotta get them pissed off enough.

    One wonders. Will Israel give medals to the lucky Jews who get to die to make war possible? We just need one good hit…

    It’s kind of morbidly amusing watching Iran try to deflect the inevitable. They think this warning salvo is actually going to discourage Israel. Nope…no way out, really. Israel needs her war and YOU are the lucky girl.

  5. The one good thing about all this is that, the best efforts of the New York Times et al notwithstanding, Israel winds up very firmly identified with Donald Trump and the American Right.

    She ceases to be a non-partisan good, and becomes a political football, something like immigration, or abortion.

    It can be helpful to take the long view. So long as we avoid the ultimate catastrophe of an American invasion of Iran, this is good stuff. We’re making progress.

    1. Quite the reverse, Mr Wright.

      Trump has changed the conversation.
      Only in extreme left “progressive” forums such as this blog do you hear the kvetching, howling and screaming about how horrible Israeli is. Even the Arab press is either silent or supportive of Israel’s moves. It is you who is out of touch. You’re even hearing Saudi and other Arab officials openly blaming the Palestinians stubbornness for the lack of a settlement. And they all abhor the mullahs of Iran.

      Trump is not going to be removed from office, and even if he is, he’ll be replaced by Pence who is an equally avid supporter of Israel. And when Democrats return to power, they’ll still be supportive and will have learned the lessons of Obama’s disastrous foreign policy in the Middle East. I’m not hearing too many Democrats these days pining for the return to his policies of appeasement with the Iranians.

      The Europeans are divided and spineless, and in the end will cave to US policy as well.

      So keep your fantasy hopes alive for the ultimate reversal of Israel’s fortunes, if that floats your boat.

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      2. @ DrS: This is not an “extreme left” forum. No more than you are a whiny, kvetchy, howling, screaming Kahanist. Or are you?

        Even the Arab press is either silent or supportive of Israel’s moves.

        NOnsense. You mean the slavish, servile press of the Sunni world. As opposed to the press of the rest of the Arab and Muslim world, which rails against Israeli policy. Why would you leave out half the Muslim world? Would you talk about the human race and leave out all the women in it?

        You’re even hearing Saudi and other Arab officials openly blaming the Palestinians stubbornness

        Oh, you mean the kleptocratic, brutal Saudi royals? Those “officials?” Why would anyone care what they think?

        they all abhor the mullahs of Iran.

        Who is “they?” Again, you’re including only the “good” Arabs you like. But omitting those inconvenient ones you despise.

        he’ll be replaced by Pence

        Pence has none of the charisma or nuttiness of Trump. He will face a Congress which is controlled by Democrats. Certainly the House and possible the Senate as well. Pence will fare even worse than Trump has. He’ll pass no initiatives and will be stymied at every turn.

        when Democrats return to power, they’ll still be supportive and will have learned the lessons of Obama’s disastrous foreign policy

        You’re clearly not a Democrat. So please don’t make the idiotic attempt to tell us that Democrats will be nice little poodles on Israel’s behalf when they return to power. That’s about as persuasive as telling us gold coins will rain from the sky tomorrow at 12 noon.

        I’m not hearing too many Democrats…

        I cut short your statement because that was as far as I got. You are indeed not hearing many Democrats. You don’t know what they’re thinking or saying. So stop pretending you can channel them. You can’t.

        You’ve violated a major comment rule. When you offer your opinion, you must support it with credible sources. I have no interest in hearing your opinions because they’re useless and uninformative. Try this again and you’ll be moderated.

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