12 thoughts on “IDF Unit 8200: Coming Soon to a Theater Near You – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. I don`t think you are wrong here. People need to understand that Israel will go to any length to ensure its survival as long as it perceives it is in danger. The cyber arena is the “new war zone” and because, luckily for it, Israel has acquired general superiority in the field it is understandable that it would want to take advantage of that. It has the advantage of being “neat”, not as the “messy” bombing and killing of the past, and can be pinpointed against specific targets within countries (so lessen impacts for the innocent). It also presents a big problem for those, especially rogue entities, that at long last reached capabilities in those “old” ways of fighting but has little clue and experience to draw upon about this new emerging tool.

    1. “…perceives it is in danger.” Somehow that is always the case, isn’t it? Always on the verge of being snuffed out. The ’67 war is case in point. Billed as an existential threat despite the sure knowledge of victory both in Israel and the US. (Israel took a day longer than the Pentagon expected!) There is always a threat to the state’s existence. But, by whom? There’s no entity capable of doing this deed. I think this business of an existential threat is a case of bad national conscience.

  2. I want to address what you said:
    “…hanging out on the Stanford campus hoping they can divert the next Sergey Brin from starting the next Google…”

    In Israel, it works the other way around.
    conscripts who “graduate” from service in unit 8200 often create new start-up companies, or join existing ones.

    This way, the Israeli IT industry (and the individual 8200 graduate) profits from experience gained during the military service – unlike a tanker, for example, that has almost nothing to do with what he learned during his years in service.

  3. So: Israel bombs a munitions factory far from Israel (and earlier shuts-down the communications system there), all because arms manufactured there will be transferred to Gaza. What argument can there be — in light of this — against EU and others refusing to import anything made by Israelis in the OPTs (or, for that matter, in pre-1967 Israel), given the general understanding that Israel is committing violations of international law by its settlements project and that the settlements (and things grown or manufactured there) are generally illegal?

    Why, in other words, is a violent and probably illegal Israeli act of war privileged over a principled, legal, arguably mandated-by-treaty act of law enforcement? Can it be that the EU buys [1] the argument that the settlements promote Israeli security or [2] promote peace? Both so preposterous as not to be spoken outside Israel?

  4. What’s the big deal? Programs bringing Jewish kids to serve in the Israeli army have been around for a while, and are oversubscribed (more applicants than places). Whether I agree with such programs or not, the kids who come here definitely have a clear idea of what they are getting into. It’s naive to think that the Israeli army somehow has to hoodwink these kids to get them to serve.

    1. Well what should the countries whose citizens are recruited to serve in a foreign army think about this. Recruited simply because of his/hers religion. Should the Finnish army train a Jewish young Finn interested in computers on “the cyber sectors” or put him/her to take care of the watch dogs or pealing potatoes in the kitchen during their mandatory army service. If we “support” our Jewish youth to serve in the religiously motivated Israeli Army, can we say no to the Finnish Muslims wanting to serve in their “second passport” armies with skills and knowledge learned here. (Finland’s readiness in cyber defense is considered to be one of the highest in the world. During the years 2004 to 2007 Finland was the second in missile technology export to Israel (data from a parliamentary question to the government))

      Besides a very aggressive army Israel has a large military industry eager to minimize their own R&D costs by “lending” technology also from friendly countries. By publicly reaching out non-Israeli Jews Israel sends a clear signal to everybody, not only to Israel’s neighbors. Lets not whine about anti-Semitism if and when Jews around the world are offered less critical roles in the defense “systems”.

  5. Israel recruiting computer science engineers is a danger for the middle east.
    Then Iran developing nuclear weapon is what? Right, danger only because Israel is trying to stop it. Otherwise it’s a peaceful act.
    Richardson, don’t let the facts get in your way.

  6. RE: “We’re speaking of a Zionist national project,” emphasized the officer.

    MY COMMENT: Dear G_d, please help us! ! ! I fear this new “Zionist national project” might well be an “existential threat” to the rest of us.

    1. This is not entirely baseless. The obsession with Israel and the implicit desire of many, in the Islamic world and in certain European quarters, to see it undone can indeed this time around come with broader risks. In the past huge destruction could have been inflicted upon Jews and the others perhaps repented, regretted or not, but never paid real price. In our globally connected world (“local issues” have global effects) and technology advanced conditions (all are “within reach”) that may have indeed changed.

  7. Veterans of unit 8200 do not need to go to college.
    Their military service opens the doors to just about any tech company in the world.

    Most non Israelis would not get security clearance to get into the unit anyway. Generally 5 years of citzenship and residency in Israel is the requirement for them to even begin starting the security clearance process. Although occasionally the requirement is waved, but requires a very good reason to do so. Not just that a person has the skill sets.

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