14 thoughts on “U.S. War Against Settlements Tightens – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. Richard, I get the impression that the committal to forswear violence is something Obama isn’t going to budge on. Which makes sense in one respect, while not in another – States are seen as the only actors with a legitimate right to violence. Thus it’s a quid pro quo, to be acknowledged by a State, a political group must forswear violence. Yet if the members of a group are not given full rights, how can they be expected to forswear violence? Unless there is equal protection under the law, in fact and not just as a vague promise, it seems suicidal to do so, and not something that the individuals could be expected to accept. Perhaps someone can explain what I’ve missed there? (I’m not sure if I don’t understand that or simply don’t accept the idea that the power of might requires accepting and trusting without guarantee of protection.)

    I noticed that the Financial Times included this statement in its report of the meeting: “A spokesman for Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister, stressed on Thursday that “normal life” should be allowed to continue in the West Bank settlements – making clear that Israel has no intention of accepting Washington’s call for an end to the “natural growth” of settlements.
    The term has long been used by Israeli governments as a loophole to allow the continuing expansion of settlements in recent years.”

    To have that last sentence appear in a financial newsletter appears to represent a change in public opinion – you have more experience in reviewing public media, what do you think?

  2. RE: “Martin Indyk, that bellweather of liberal pro-Israel opinion, makes this rather remarkable (for him) statement…”

    MY COMMENT: Yes, I have a difficult time believing my eyes!

  3. Yes, Dickerson, Indyk’s comment leaped out at one, so to speak. Huh!

    I’m not familiar with the Financial Times, should do a search, but don’t have time at the moment. I’ve got to run a safe mode installation of Microsoft’s new patch. Or take the computer in to the shop again, I’m not sure which. Since it’s still working, despite some wierdness, I’m hesitant to fool with it – the last virus I got wiped the hard drive out after about three days of efforts by the techs – or so they said; maybe I just screwed it up so badly that it couldn’t be otherwise repaired.

      1. RE:”Daniel Pipes was supposed to take part, but he chickened out.”

        MY COMMENT: That’s a REAL ‘chickenhawk’ for you!

        WIKIPEDIA ‘CHICKENHAWK’ REFERENCE -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(politics)

  4. The Obama administration is on the right track i believe but it’s going to take cooperation from all sides, including Palestine recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, for this to go through. And even then, it might not. We aren’t as buddy-buddy with Israel as we used to be.
    Check out my link above to see a video mash-up of different global news sources.

    1. Newsy looks quite interesting & you feature in the linked video one of my favorite commentators, Kung Fu Jew of Jewschool.

      …including Palestine recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, for this to go through.

      No, I don’t agree with you on that. Palestine will have to recognize Israel, but not as a Jewish state.

  5. It’s time – actually, it’s waaaaay past time – for all of the settlements to be fully opened to Arab residents.

  6. “Admittedly, the Israelis have done their best to render Abbas impotent and politically irrelevant, which may explain part of the reason there was so little to report from this event.”

    “The fact that Obama insists on the same tired articulation of Hamas as a terrorist entity is disappointing.”

    My Comment:

    Part of the problem here is that the US and Israel will not allow Palestinians to sort out their politics on their own: They interfere relentlessly. From rejecting the democratically elected Hamas in 2006 to insisting on the inclusion of particular Fatah members that Fatah and the general public DO NOT WANT (i.e., US friendly Salam Fayyad as Prime Minister), to insisting on a weak and ineffectual Abbas as President.

    It’s hard not to think this is all intentional. Had the democratically elected Hamas been allowed to govern – and, face it, Israeli/US interference with this is as anti-democracy as it gets – the show would be on, Israel would be whining but nonetheless an effective truce (Hudna) would already be in place.

    Someone doesn’t want peace and it isn’t the Palestinians.

    1. RE: “It’s hard not to think this is all intentional.”

      SEE: “The Gaza Bombshell”, by David Rose @ “Vanity Fair”, April 2008

      (EXCERPT) After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, the author reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever…

      ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804

  7. Margaret – If I understand you correctly, I agree. It is too exacting a demand to have Hamas relinquish violence before rather than as part of a peace settlement. This demand seems to be the way to make it appear to want Hamas to be part of the political process while simultaneously requiring that they renounce the only thing that causes them to be taken seriously in the first place. It would be bad politics and bad judgment to give up their own deterrent to Israeli aggression as a pre-condition to talks. This must be obvious to everyone even if they wish not to acknowledge it.

    Martillo – I agree with the dismantlement strategy. It seems that if you want a settlement freeze you best not demand a settlement freeze. Better to demand a real goodwill gesture – the initiation of dismantlement. (This has been my own little position on it the last couple months. I’m waiting to hear that word used by Obama.). The Foundation for Middle East Peace, has also emphasized the importance of thinking in terms of dismantling settlements given the current realities.

    Dickerson – Thanks for the link.

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    As for the strong language being used:

    “Hillary Clinton’s statement was notable because the language was stronger than we’ve heard in years,” said Ali Abunimah, the co-founder of Electronic Intifada, a Web site that analyzes the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “And clearer than we’ve heard in years. But the burden of proof is still on them. If it’s just going to be strong statements, that’s not enough.” (NYT)

    and

    “Unless these statements [against settlement construction] are followed by decisive action – perhaps to limit American subsidies to Israel – there’s no reason to believe the lip service that failed in the past will suddenly be more effective,” wrote Ali Abuminah, a co-founder of the Electronic Intifada website, in the Nation magazine. (IPS)

    Hard to disagree with that assessment. So then, from strong language to … ? The moment of truth is near.

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