15 thoughts on “Israel Attacked Syrian Missile Complex – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. For once, Israelis are shutting their mouths and not leeking everything to the press. I wonder how long that will last, So far, so good. It’s a moment to enjoy.

  2. It’s a moment to enjoy.

    Before the bombs fly…

    Yours is a nonsensically smug response. You think Syria won’t exact revenge? You think this won’t involve the deaths of Israelis? Go ahead be smug. But when the other shoe drops–and it will–you’ll have me reminding you that for every action there is an equal & opposite reaction–basic laws of physics & ME politics.

  3. I’m sorry, what’s so different about this particular bombing? Israel has been bombing Lebanon with impunity for forty years. Is it that Lebanon just doesn’t count? Or Israel has been doing it to Lebanon for so long that everybody is just accustomed to the violations and thinks they are normal?

    Make no mistake, I agree that it’s outrageous to bomb another country with no provocation. I just wonder why you think this is something new…

  4. Strange man, strange
    All is fine and dandy Lanis is the source of truth, very fine. But you write : The fact that North Korea gave or sold Syria god knows what nuclear detritus….. Man, would you live in a house with nuclear detritus ? What is PRNC doing selling this stuff? What is Syria going to do with such junk? Can you get me a Kg. of this just to spead in my yard? talking about responsibility, madness and the like.

  5. Well I see at the bottom of the post that somebody (was it Drefner in the Jerusalem Post?) reminds us of Israeli incursions over Lebanon. It certainly has been going on for most of my life (I’m 45) and at the cost of many human casualties. Like tens of thousands.

  6. Josh thinks there still something “off” about the CNN story. And I agree. I still think that this is an opening salvo in the coming war against Iran. This is an Cheneyesque shout out to the mullahs letting them know what’s in store.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3449000,00.html (English)

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3448996,00.html (Hebrew)

    According to Ynet, FOX says Bush has had it with diplomatic efforts to stop Iran’s nuclear program. This is the headliner on both the English and Hebrew versions of Ynet at 5:33 PM est. The Hebrew version has a nice little side bar on the alleged Israeli attack on Syria plus the information they are talking about attacking in 8 to 10 months.

  7. I agree that this incident is serious business as well as reckless and clearly militarily aggressive. I wonder if some of this isn’t partly psychological–in a puffed-up chest watch us strut kind of way–on Israel’s part, though. A way of saying ‘fuck you, we’re more powerful than you piss-ants and we can do whatever we want. After all, we’ve got the greatest power in the world at our back, ready to do our beck and call’. I’m not sure, but some Israeli actions strike me this way. I perceive this feeling of smugness like we’re superior and special and you rag-heads can stuff it, we’ll rough you up a bit, drop a few bombs, if we feel like it. A lot of Israeli actions seem as if they’re welling up from some kind of deep psychosis and hatred toward the rest of the world (or at least their immediate neighbors). Talk about being a good neighbor!

    P.S.–You can sadly say the same for a lot of U.S. action in the world today, and on a much bigger scale (Iraq!), as well. It’s painful to have to say this about one’s own country.

  8. Leila: I hope this doesn’t sound cynical but the diff. is that Lebanon cannot start a regional war in a response to such Israeli aggression while Syria can. Syria is a much more dangerous adversary for Israel than Lebanon.

    To be clear, I am not defending any of Israel’s actions against Lebanon.

  9. What is PRNC doing selling this stuff? What is Syria going to do with such junk?

    Neither one of these countries are paragons of virtue. But you can’t say that the U.S. & Israel haven’t tried to drive Syria into such desperate straits that it would do dirty deals w. N. Korea. If both nations tried harder to reach an accomodation w. Syria rather than driving it into the arms of the likes of Iran & N. Korea, then perhaps this wouldn’t have happened.

  10. One does not know what happened there so all the psychological observations are interesting and no more. As for IDF planes flying over Lebanon. From about 1947-8 to about 1967 the Lebanon Israel border did not see any war like action, unlike the rest of the Arab Israeli borders. Consequently the IDF did not fly over Lebanon. By about that time some body decided that Lebanon should be the tip of the Arab sword in the fight to Liberate Palestine, the rest is well known. Israeli war planes are not flying over Egypt and Jordan, though the Egyptian army is the best armed and well trained Arab army. But civilian planes do. The best way to prevent Israeli war planes from flying over Lebanon is either to get into the 1947-1967 situation or the Egyptian Jordenian situation. Presently it is Lebanon that have declared that it will not sign any peace treaty with Israel, will not conduct any direct talks with Israel and will support and aid war efforts from its soil against Israel, as long as this is done, against the wishes of the international community as expressed by the UN security council, Israeli planes will fly over Lebanon and if and when Israel is attacked from Lebanon will respond accordingly. Most nations that have diplomatic relations with Arab Muslim countries and Israel have accepted this situation which can be easily solved by Lebanon signing some papers, not even a peace treaty.
    The excuse that if Israel and or the USA would not have done this or that Syria would not have messed with radioactive materials is lame. As every body knows messing with such materials is everybody and the whole world business. To some rummor mongers this can realy be the reason why Syria which is complaining about some thing does not show a thing, as they say “were is the body?”. Why not bring the agents of the media ? what are you complaining about any how?. The only material facts, as of now, are from Turkey and these tanks could have come from every where. Also this kind of excuse is over used by some Israeli and some Jews “because you or he or she or them or they have done this and this to us we are allowed to do any thing to them”. To some people, even on this blog, this is a great no no no argument and is not acceptd at all. Not all things that happen in the ME are generated by actions of the USA and Israel.

  11. Yes, Richard, I would agree with you that this incident may indeed represent a step too far in these cat-and-mouse games played out between Israel and her neighbours.

    What this promotes is an awareness of uncertainty, a shifting in the uneasy balance between potential combatants. That is never a good state of mind for any of them to be in, even at the best of times. The whole situation really needs some long-term stability, a means of knowing for sure that the other side is not contemplating some new or sudden adventure beyond that which passes for normal traffic.

    Stabilisation, as you know, is rarely the norm in the sphere of Middle East Middle relations; always too much going on, too many people trying to upset the apple-cart for that to happen.

    What’s needed is a constant braking effort applied to proceedings there, a mandatory scaling-down of the possibilities for incalculable harm being done to and by all concerned.

    Well, my take on that you already know: http://yorketowers.blogspot.com . You may think a chance conversation in a Nuremberg restaurant one evening nearly twenty years ago hardly constitutes a viable alternative to this conflict; the odds are so overwhelmingly against it.

    But overwhelming odds can be overcome; sometimes with the minimum of effort.

    Let me tell you something about ‘odds.’ This all actually happened to me over the weekend.

    Last Friday, driving home from work, I was in conversation with my manager. The week had not gone well. The machine I was working on had been ‘down’ for five or six days; a veritable eternity from the customer’s point of view. Basically we were discussing what was planned for the following Monday. This involved exchanging the very last two parts that hadn’t already been changed. He then reminded me, quite forcefully, to complete and send back to personnel a form I had omitted to deal with some months previously. To me this form was the equivalent of company junk mail; a yearly confirmation of my personal details held in its computers; a matter of surely trifling importance.

    I spent most of Saturday morning looking for this document. Where was it? Had I thrown it out with the trash? Was it lurking in some dark hole, never to be seen again? Eventually, after some hours, I found it, having trawled through masses of other equally redundant paperwork. I duly signed and dated it, put it in an envelope, addressed the envelope and then went to look for a stamp. On passing my table, now piled high with paperwork of every description, I noticed a small brown envelope lying on the top. I examined it and found inside, to my great surprise, a legacy from my aunt Julia dating back some thirty years. It appeared to be her entire life-savings. I now surmise it must have been floating about the house for the best part of twenty years.

    Suddenly the company document went on the back-burner while I sought out the website of the bank referred to in the legacy. I then contacted the bank. I was advised to send all documentation to their head office where a free tracing facility would track down the accounts in question. These accounts stretched back well over half a century. Having made photostats my aunt’s nomination, I placed these in another envelope and wrote upon it the address the bank had given me.

    I now had two letters to post and was about to do so when I noticed something very strange. Both envelopes had the same postcode. Their destination was, as indeed I later determined, a single office building somewhere in or near Glasgow, Scotland.

    The ‘odds’ against discovering a 30 year old legacy after 20 years are heavy enough but that, coupled with having two sets of such diverse documents terminating in the very same building, one of countless thousands throughout the UK, might well suggest something other than mere random chance. Fate? Destiny? Aunt Julia? Who knows?

    Even the unlikeliest set of circumstances can sometimes generate the best of all possible outcomes.

    Additional: One of the parts I’d ordered for that broken machine solved its problems on the Monday. This week has seen such an improvement over last. Yesterday was also my birthday. I really don’t think I could have asked for a much better present than the one I received.

  12. Richard,

    First of all let me wish you a Shana Tova Tikatevu and to all your Muslim readers a Ramadan Mubarak. This incident, which now given all the various statements from every corner apparently did take place, has led to more speculation than the Preakness. It could have been directed at Syrian installations, it could have been meant as a warning to Syria, it could have targeted trans-shipments of Hezbollah arms through Syria, or it could have been an electronic foray intended to start mapping Syria’s air defenses as a prelude to an attack on Iran, etc etc. In any case it is a prelude to nothing good, thats for sure. Larry Derfner’s lament regarding the silent Israeli media provides perhaps the most insghtful aspect of this entire incident to my mind. I notice in the media, on many weblogs, in the internet forums, in conversations, that too many Israelis and Israel’s (Jewish) supporters have been driven into a dark psychological corner from the events of the past years. Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah and the failed war in 2006, rising Shia extremism across the ME, failure in Iraq, Iran’s rising influence and atomic program, lack of progress on a settlement with the Palestinians have all contributed to make too many feel that the moment of ‘existential survival’ is about to arrive once again for the state of Israel. Hopelessness breeds desperation and blinds to other possibilities. There is almost no doubt that another war is on the horizon and Israel marches towards it like lemmings to a cliff instead of working hard and in creative ways to change the dynamics that are in her power to change (a daring wide ranging peace settlement with the Palestinians and diplomatic relations with Sunni Arab countries). This is a frightening and dangerous moment and the lack of visionary and courageous leaders does not bode well. Let’s pray and advocate for peace but I fear the worst.

    Peace, shalom and salaam.

  13. Great post Lenny. Couldn’t have said it any better than that.

    Happy Birthday John. Don’t spend it all in one place. And never confuse coincidence with fate.

  14. Thanks you for your good wishes, Bart.

    As far as coincidence and fate are concerned I look at it this way.

    If the money buy the groceries for the rest of the year, it’s coincidence.
    If it allows me to retire next month and do some of the things I’ve always wanted to do in life, then it’s fate.

    But have also you noticed the symbolism? We have here two communications, both fixed on a common goal yet each incapable of realising maximum potential without the other. Richard’s blog and my own, perhaps? Between us we might indeed be able to resolve this problem that has dogged mankind for quite long enough. It’s sometimes a strange combination of factors that determines what we can achieve, what it is possible to attain.

    Like Aunt Julia’s legacy, the answer may have always been there, unnoticed and unclaimed.

    In any event, maybe it’s not just my birthday this month. I’d like to think something else has been born as well..

    Virgo.

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