5 thoughts on “Italy Saves UN Peacekeeping Mission in Lebanon, Criticizes U.S. and Israeli Reliance on Military Force – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם إصلاح العالم
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  1. Terrific information. I am greatly encouraged by the Italians. Someone needs to tell the US and Israel that war is not the answer. We cannot kill them all and while trying we just create many, many more. Thank you for your time in helping to educate us. Jeanne

  2. “I am concerned though about Israel’s refusal to accept Arab or Muslim nations’ participation in the new UNIFIL force.”

    Is this a blanket refusal of ALL Arab/Muslim nations or those who don’t recognize Israel’s statehood?

    “continuing lack of vision for what will make for a fair and balanced force to keep the peace in Lebanon”

    Guess it’s all subject to opinion, but how is a force including nations that exercise their own forms of petulance regarding recognition towards Israel a fair and balanced one?

    If one can pardon the naive and simplistic outlook, perhaps recognition of Israel could be considered a prerequisite to achieve the special status of a legit participant in stabilizing the region?

    This is not some personal concoction. At a recent meeting of the Arab League, the Jordanian model to kick-start the peace talks was for Arab nations to recognize Israel FIRST so then she would have no choice but to implement items on the table. I believe many in the Israeli populace who waver on forging ahead with some kind of process would be strongly reassured following pan-Arab recognition.

    Sure it’s a risk and would involve complensation, but so is working with organizations like Hamas/Fatah and relinquishing territories.

  3. Is this a blanket refusal of ALL Arab/Muslim nations or those who don’t recognize Israel’s statehood?

    Jake: I think perhaps there is ONE Muslim nation, Turkey, that recognizes Israel. THere may be one other Arab nation (& it prob. doesn’t have an army) that recognizes Israel–I can’t remember. So by setting a criteria for participation of having to recognize Israel, the latter has perforce excluded all Arab/Muslim nations fr. UNIFIL.

    how is a force including nations that exercise their own forms of petulance regarding recognition towards Israel a fair and balanced one?

    You make the erroneous judgment that the purpose of the UNIFIL force is to be “fair & balanced” toward Israel. This is not the case. Israel is not the only party to the ceasefire. Lebanon is as well. And Lebanon is a majority Arab/Muslim nation. To be truly fair & balanced (a goal in which Israel of course has no interest) such a force would include nations Israel would be comfortable with & nations Lebanon would be comfortable with. Due to Israeli “petulance” this is not the case.

    If one can pardon the naive and simplistic outlook, perhaps recognition of Israel could be considered a prerequisite to achieve the special status of a legit participant in stabilizing the region?

    There is no reason whatsoever that nation’s contributing to a peacekeeping force stationed in Lebanon should HAVE to recognize Israel. It’s simply yet another ploy by Israel to tailor a solution that is more in its interests than Lebanon’s.

    At a recent meeting of the Arab League, the Jordanian model to kick-start the peace talks was for Arab nations to recognize Israel FIRST so then she would have no choice but to implement items on the table.

    I’d like to see a journalistic source confirming your chracterization of the mtg. I’m not saying you’re not accurate. I’d just like to hear fr. a reporter who was actually at the mtg. It’s an interesting idea but why should the onus be on Arab states to make such a huge concession to Israel w/o gaining anything in return except the POSSIBILITY that it might turn Israeli opinion in favor of conciliation? That’s not generally how international diplomacy & negotiation works.

  4. “I think perhaps there is ONE Muslim nation, Turkey, that recognizes Israel. There may be one other Arab nation”

    Besides Turkey, I believe all of the former Soviet republics which are predominantly Islam (Uzbekistan, Tajikistan et al) recognize Israel. The 3 Arab nations are Egypt, Jordan and Mauritania. What their military status is, I don’t know either.

    “You make the erroneous judgment that the purpose of the UNIFIL force is to be “fair & balanced” toward Israel.”

    I don’t see it that way; there obviously is a need for bi-lateral fairness. If for whatever reason a country refused to recognize Lebanon and Pres Siniora protested their presence in UNIFIL I believe there would be a receptive audience to his pleas.

    “why should the onus be on Arab states to make such a huge concession to Israel w/o gaining anything in return except the POSSIBILITY that it might turn Israeli opinion in favor of conciliation? That’s not generally how international diplomacy & negotiation works. ”

    Yes, but perhaps there’s a flip-side as well. The onus on Israel; relinquishing territories, adjusting to an independent but likely volatile and unpredictable Islamic-run Palestinian state, admitting perhaps a “six-figure” amount of additional Palestinian returnees, plus many other risks in return for the POSSIBILITY of Arab countries opening an embassy in Tel Aviv sounds like a lot of huge concessions as well.

    I know that recognition from Arab League members is not the core issue but, it could work to gain some form of accountability for the Palestinians, and for Israel, acceptance in a wider arena which has always been a strong selling point to the Israeli people who ultimately, through their mandates have a say in this.

    Personally, I can’t fathom how one could equate the risks of Qatar and Oman opening an embassy on Frishman St equally with the ones listed above that Israel would be forced to take.

  5. The former Soviet republics do not have armies & so cannot participate. Mauritania clearly does not. Jordan & Egypt will not participate for other reasons. Qatar has just announced that it will send 300 troops & Israel has accepted. Israel has also accepted Indonesian participation but it has objected to Malaysian participation (don’t ask me what’s the difference). So apparently Israel has softened its ironclad rejection of the notion that nations not recognizing it cannot participate in UNIFIL as the last two nations do not have relations w. Israel.

    I don’t see it that way; there obviously is a need for bi-lateral fairness. If for whatever reason a country refused to recognize Lebanon and Pres Siniora protested their presence in UNIFIL I believe there would be a receptive audience to his pleas.

    But this is disingenuous. All nations recognize Lebanon, few Arab nations do. So the problem of non-recognition is Israel’s, not Lebanon’s.

    Yes, but perhaps there’s a flip-side as well. The onus on Israel; relinquishing territories, adjusting to an independent but likely volatile and unpredictable Islamic-run Palestinian state, admitting perhaps a “six-figure” amount of additional Palestinian returnees, plus many other risks in return for the POSSIBILITY of Arab countries opening an embassy in Tel Aviv sounds like a lot of huge concessions as well.

    You’re not following the logic of yr original suggestion which was that the Arab states recognize Israel BEFORE getting anything in return. In the scenario you describe which I’ve quoted just above, it would only be relevant if Israel were recognizing Hamas and Palestine w/o a peace agreement. Though that would be nice (& impossible for the current government), that’s not what I expect to happen. I expect Israel to accept all the onuses you list above AT THE SAME TIME as a negotiated peace agreement in which the Arab states pledge something in return: recognition, an end to hostilities and multi-lateral cooperation. That’s the way most treaties go. Each side gives to the other simultaneously rather than one side giving something to the other before it gets anything in return. But yr original suggestion was for the Arabs to give while getting nothing specific in return.

    I can’t fathom how one could equate the risks of Qatar and Oman opening an embassy on Frishman St equally with the ones listed above that Israel would be forced to take.

    Why am I not surprised that you would see only Israel as taking risks for peace, while not seeing the Arab side as having to take significant risks? And why have you focussed on Qatar & Oman when the nations that would be taking the real risks would be Palestine, Syria and Lebanon, the frontline states?

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