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		<title>By: William Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shai,

Could you please link to some of your no doubt numerous comments about the US presence in the Middle East, Darfur, North Korea, Iran, etc.?  I would hate to think you devote a disproportionate amount of attention to Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shai,</p>
<p>Could you please link to some of your no doubt numerous comments about the US presence in the Middle East, Darfur, North Korea, Iran, etc.?  I would hate to think you devote a disproportionate amount of attention to Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just something interesting, sort of ties in (in my mind that always sees connections-parallels) From Louisiana

Web-map use crimes get tougher sentence

A bill headed to Gov. Bobby Jindal’s desk would increase penalties for crimes committed with the use of an Internet-generated “virtual street-level map.”

Senate Bill 151 by Sen. Robert Adley, R-Benton, provides for an additional year in prison for crimes committed using the maps, including acts of terrorism or other criminal offenses like burglary or stalking.

An act of terrorism using the maps could mean an additional 10 years behind bars.
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I&#039;m just scratching my head.  Google Earth can zoom in on your front yard.  Anyone with a computer can use it.  Israel has Google Earth blocked all over the place as far as I knew because a couple of years ago my Israeli girlfriend was showing me how so much of Israel is blocked on Google Earth.

Aren&#039;t Israelis themselves the ones who have developed so much of this technology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just something interesting, sort of ties in (in my mind that always sees connections-parallels) From Louisiana</p>
<p>Web-map use crimes get tougher sentence</p>
<p>A bill headed to Gov. Bobby Jindal’s desk would increase penalties for crimes committed with the use of an Internet-generated “virtual street-level map.”</p>
<p>Senate Bill 151 by Sen. Robert Adley, R-Benton, provides for an additional year in prison for crimes committed using the maps, including acts of terrorism or other criminal offenses like burglary or stalking.</p>
<p>An act of terrorism using the maps could mean an additional 10 years behind bars.<br />
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I&#8217;m just scratching my head.  Google Earth can zoom in on your front yard.  Anyone with a computer can use it.  Israel has Google Earth blocked all over the place as far as I knew because a couple of years ago my Israeli girlfriend was showing me how so much of Israel is blocked on Google Earth.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t Israelis themselves the ones who have developed so much of this technology?</p>
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		<title>By: Shai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 10:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, Richard, your tendentiousness makes it hard for you to be taken seriously, or, as you like to put it - makes your articles seem as laughingstock.

I have not seen even a slight mention of this: http://www.haaretz.com/news/hamas-executes-two-israel-collaborators-in-gaza-1.284326

I thought you were all about making the world (and particulary Israel/Palestine) a better place! Where is the evidence? What are the charges exactly? Why do you not care? And finally, I am terrified and shocked to see how cruel and absurd the world is. You can spend days upon days using cheap demagogy, satisfying other readers who care nothing about the Palestinians, and only wish to see Israel go down.

I do not know why. There are many other, far more worrying things in the world. Like US presence in the middle east, Darfur, North Korea, Iran, etc.

I am not saying this immediately justifies any and every Israeli action - but the amount of biased attention it gets (largely the US&#039;s fault), really makes you wonder whether it really is human rights people care about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, Richard, your tendentiousness makes it hard for you to be taken seriously, or, as you like to put it &#8211; makes your articles seem as laughingstock.</p>
<p>I have not seen even a slight mention of this: <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/news/hamas-executes-two-israel-collaborators-in-gaza-1.284326" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/news/hamas-executes-two-israel-collaborators-in-gaza-1.284326</a></p>
<p>I thought you were all about making the world (and particulary Israel/Palestine) a better place! Where is the evidence? What are the charges exactly? Why do you not care? And finally, I am terrified and shocked to see how cruel and absurd the world is. You can spend days upon days using cheap demagogy, satisfying other readers who care nothing about the Palestinians, and only wish to see Israel go down.</p>
<p>I do not know why. There are many other, far more worrying things in the world. Like US presence in the middle east, Darfur, North Korea, Iran, etc.</p>
<p>I am not saying this immediately justifies any and every Israeli action &#8211; but the amount of biased attention it gets (largely the US&#8217;s fault), really makes you wonder whether it really is human rights people care about.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 07:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you assume this because?????&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Um, maybe because it&#039;s the job of a nation&#039;s intelligence services to know when agents of groups they consider terrorist alight on their soil and begin recruiting others to the cause.

&lt;blockquote&gt;an indictment is a statement of charges. the evidence will not be brought till trial.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh how quaint.  You mean they&#039;ll really do Ameer the favor of presenting evidence?  That&#039;s mighty white of them.  Perhaps if they keep torturing him enough he&#039;ll waive the right to a trail, confess &amp; allow them to send him away for life.

I note that the Shin Bet plans to call Said as a witness against Makhoul.  I have no doubt this is a Julius Rosenberg strategem, the goal being to force Said to testify against Makhoul.  I&#039;m guessing that Said is refusing &amp; indicting him &amp; threatening him w. many yrs in jail is the S.B.&#039;s way of delicately suggesting that he cooperate--or else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you assume this because?????</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, maybe because it&#8217;s the job of a nation&#8217;s intelligence services to know when agents of groups they consider terrorist alight on their soil and begin recruiting others to the cause.</p>
<blockquote><p>an indictment is a statement of charges. the evidence will not be brought till trial.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh how quaint.  You mean they&#8217;ll really do Ameer the favor of presenting evidence?  That&#8217;s mighty white of them.  Perhaps if they keep torturing him enough he&#8217;ll waive the right to a trail, confess &amp; allow them to send him away for life.</p>
<p>I note that the Shin Bet plans to call Said as a witness against Makhoul.  I have no doubt this is a Julius Rosenberg strategem, the goal being to force Said to testify against Makhoul.  I&#8217;m guessing that Said is refusing &#038; indicting him &#038; threatening him w. many yrs in jail is the S.B.&#8217;s way of delicately suggesting that he cooperate&#8211;or else.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 00:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuval Diskin and his goons are damaging Israel -- which begs the question:

Has Shin Bet been infiltrated and compromised by enemy agents?

These things work both ways . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuval Diskin and his goons are damaging Israel &#8212; which begs the question:</p>
<p>Has Shin Bet been infiltrated and compromised by enemy agents?</p>
<p>These things work both ways . . .</p>
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		<title>By: uncle joe mccarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncle joe mccarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 23:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Makhoul met with a Hezbollah operative in Denmark, that country’s intelligence services should know about it&quot;

and you assume this because?????

and richard, an indictment is a statement of charges. the evidence will not be brought till trial.

the authorities do not have to provide any hard evidence till then, or at least till discovery.

its the same here in america, where getting an indictment from a grand jury is ez.

but i do agree that the case against said is pretty flimsy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Makhoul met with a Hezbollah operative in Denmark, that country’s intelligence services should know about it&#8221;</p>
<p>and you assume this because?????</p>
<p>and richard, an indictment is a statement of charges. the evidence will not be brought till trial.</p>
<p>the authorities do not have to provide any hard evidence till then, or at least till discovery.</p>
<p>its the same here in america, where getting an indictment from a grand jury is ez.</p>
<p>but i do agree that the case against said is pretty flimsy.</p>
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