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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, &lt;em&gt;n&#039;kayva&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s root is nun koof bet.  Thanks for correcting me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, <em>n&#8217;kayva</em>&#8216;s root is nun koof bet.  Thanks for correcting me.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed the same thing.  I don&#039;t buy it.  If they copied the passport it wasn&#039;t at Ben Gurion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the same thing.  I don&#8217;t buy it.  If they copied the passport it wasn&#8217;t at Ben Gurion.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah.  But there&#039;s the flip side to this German ease for former German Jews to obtain citizenship.  I know a German woman who married an Israeli and was granted Israeli citizenship even though she is not Jewish.  This occurred some 21 years ago.  She went last month to the German consulate in Houston to have her lost German passport replaced and was told that since she had taken Israeli citizenship she had forfeited her German citizenship. It just hadn&#039;t been caught for 21 years.  They refused to replace her passport and have told her she must renounce her Israeli citizenship first. Currently the only legal citizenship she holds is Israeli and she allowed her Israeli passport to expire, so long story short, she&#039;s stuck.  This is what the German consulate did to her in Houston.  

 Germany has some of the strictest citizenship laws on the books, in fact duel citizenship is prohibited per their constitution.  They do have a procedure you can go through to get special permission, &quot;Beibehaltungsgenehmigung&quot; which you MUST do if you are considering taking another citizenship in addition to your German citizenship.  If you don&#039;t go through this procedure, which may work and may NOT work, then too bad, so sad, you forfeit your German citizenship if you take another without going through the procedure and MAYBE being allowed to hold duel citizenship.  A few years ago Germany did ease up their citizenship laws allowing duel citizenship with other EU countries, but Israel is not an EU country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  But there&#8217;s the flip side to this German ease for former German Jews to obtain citizenship.  I know a German woman who married an Israeli and was granted Israeli citizenship even though she is not Jewish.  This occurred some 21 years ago.  She went last month to the German consulate in Houston to have her lost German passport replaced and was told that since she had taken Israeli citizenship she had forfeited her German citizenship. It just hadn&#8217;t been caught for 21 years.  They refused to replace her passport and have told her she must renounce her Israeli citizenship first. Currently the only legal citizenship she holds is Israeli and she allowed her Israeli passport to expire, so long story short, she&#8217;s stuck.  This is what the German consulate did to her in Houston.  </p>
<p> Germany has some of the strictest citizenship laws on the books, in fact duel citizenship is prohibited per their constitution.  They do have a procedure you can go through to get special permission, &#8220;Beibehaltungsgenehmigung&#8221; which you MUST do if you are considering taking another citizenship in addition to your German citizenship.  If you don&#8217;t go through this procedure, which may work and may NOT work, then too bad, so sad, you forfeit your German citizenship if you take another without going through the procedure and MAYBE being allowed to hold duel citizenship.  A few years ago Germany did ease up their citizenship laws allowing duel citizenship with other EU countries, but Israel is not an EU country.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wouldn&#039;t be related to nakba - wrong root. Nakba comes from nun kaf ba, with refers to the infliction of disasters. The root nun qaf ba would be the correct root.

There are tons of cognates between Hebrew and Arabic, so much so that I can sometimes catch the gist of what is being said when I hear Hebrew. And then, of course, the Israelis have stolen their swear words, including some pretty bad ones, from Arabic. :o}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be related to nakba &#8211; wrong root. Nakba comes from nun kaf ba, with refers to the infliction of disasters. The root nun qaf ba would be the correct root.</p>
<p>There are tons of cognates between Hebrew and Arabic, so much so that I can sometimes catch the gist of what is being said when I hear Hebrew. And then, of course, the Israelis have stolen their swear words, including some pretty bad ones, from Arabic. :o}</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I haven&#039;t really explored this in any detail but the Hebrew word for female is &lt;em&gt;n&#039;kayva&lt;/em&gt;, which has to be related to &lt;em&gt;nakba&lt;/em&gt;.  But it clearly doesn&#039;t refer to that part of the anatomy to which you refer, but to a part of the anatomy distinctive to women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I haven&#8217;t really explored this in any detail but the Hebrew word for female is <em>n&#8217;kayva</em>, which has to be related to <em>nakba</em>.  But it clearly doesn&#8217;t refer to that part of the anatomy to which you refer, but to a part of the anatomy distinctive to women.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, this is an interesting excerpt of a recent interview with Paul McGeough, author of &lt;i&gt;Kill Khalid: The Failed Mossad Assassination of Khalid Mishal and the Rise of Hamas&lt;/i&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...the way it was explained to me when I was researching Kill Khalid  was that often what happens is, the Israeli authorities borrow passports momentarily, as people go through immigration, entering or leaving Israel, and skim the details of them. But another thing that happens is, given the number of Jews from other parts of the world, other countries, who migrate to Israel, they have dual citizenship, they have American passports, they have Canadian, British passports, whatever. Now, one of the things that happens is, quite a few of those people are given, if you like, an informal test of their loyalty to the state of Israel and in the form of a request for their passport to be borrowed for a time.

There was an amazing case, again in the aftermath of the Mishal incident, where a Canadian came forward to the Canadian authorities and confessed that in 1996 he had actually let the Israeli authorities borrow his passport. In the aftermath of the Mishal incident, the Israelis apologized profusely to Canada and promised that they would not use Canadian passports again. But weeks later, this same Canadian had a knock on his door from what he described as a front for the Mossad. He was asked, could they borrow his new passport, and could they also fly his daughter to Ottawa to apply for a new passport and then fly her back to Israel, and could they borrow that passport, too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, this is an interesting excerpt of a recent interview with Paul McGeough, author of <i>Kill Khalid: The Failed Mossad Assassination of Khalid Mishal and the Rise of Hamas</i>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;the way it was explained to me when I was researching Kill Khalid  was that often what happens is, the Israeli authorities borrow passports momentarily, as people go through immigration, entering or leaving Israel, and skim the details of them. But another thing that happens is, given the number of Jews from other parts of the world, other countries, who migrate to Israel, they have dual citizenship, they have American passports, they have Canadian, British passports, whatever. Now, one of the things that happens is, quite a few of those people are given, if you like, an informal test of their loyalty to the state of Israel and in the form of a request for their passport to be borrowed for a time.</p>
<p>There was an amazing case, again in the aftermath of the Mishal incident, where a Canadian came forward to the Canadian authorities and confessed that in 1996 he had actually let the Israeli authorities borrow his passport. In the aftermath of the Mishal incident, the Israelis apologized profusely to Canada and promised that they would not use Canadian passports again. But weeks later, this same Canadian had a knock on his door from what he described as a front for the Mossad. He was asked, could they borrow his new passport, and could they also fly his daughter to Ottawa to apply for a new passport and then fly her back to Israel, and could they borrow that passport, too.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word is nakba, نكبة, catastrophe, from the root ن ك ب,  to afflict someone with disaster. The word naqba, نقبة, if it existed, would be from the root ن ق ب, to dig a hole, pierce, puncture. In fact, the word naqba does not exist in Arabic except in a few dialects in which it is a very vulgar word referring to a part of the anatomy generally used in English to describe extremely stupid and unpleasant people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word is nakba, نكبة, catastrophe, from the root ن ك ب,  to afflict someone with disaster. The word naqba, نقبة, if it existed, would be from the root ن ق ب, to dig a hole, pierce, puncture. In fact, the word naqba does not exist in Arabic except in a few dialects in which it is a very vulgar word referring to a part of the anatomy generally used in English to describe extremely stupid and unpleasant people.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is absolutely puerile nonsense.  First, the Holocaust is an event that did not happen in Israel, the Nakba did.  So it is directly related to Israeli history and Palestinian suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is absolutely puerile nonsense.  First, the Holocaust is an event that did not happen in Israel, the Nakba did.  So it is directly related to Israeli history and Palestinian suffering.</p>
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