Gitmo is a US military installation and cannot be compared to the illegal occupation of Palestine.

You cannot defend the court system in the West Bank with anything you say. There is no justification for it and it is only one other way of unfairly treating Palestinians.

the US is completely inadequate. Its occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan

Agreed. The U.S. occupation of Muslim lands is almost as bad as the Israeli Occupation. I say almost because it hasn’t lasted for 40 yrs. (yet). When it does come back & we can talk. Till then, I’m afraid Israel’s illegal Occupation is one of the most egregious currently in the world.

BTW, the crimes of other countries don’t excuse Israel’s–or is that what you’re arguing? Are you claiming that until we resolve all the injustice in the world that Israel gets off scot free??

You’re hogging the comment threads. Pls. from henceforth no more than three comments in a single day. You’ve published something like 10 comments or more already today. You’ve exhausted your share and will not publish further comments today. You can resume tomorrow. I don’t have the time or inclination to spend my entire day replying to your nonsense. In addition, you’ve repeated numerous claims 3 times or more. DO NOT REPEAT your arguments. It’s boring & again a violation of comment rules. I’m very close to banning you. Read the comment rules if you want to continue commenting.

Just look at the Senate. Minorities are under represented there in a huge way. Could you please remind me when was the last time an African American represented Alabama or Mississippi in the Senate

Blacks are not a majority in those states. If you’re not a majority or able to cobble together an electoral coalition, it’s difficult to get elected. You apparently have never heard of the Civil Rights Act which gives judges the right to approve legislative districting for discrimination against minorities. It is the sole reason there are as many Latino & African American members of Congress.

Blacks are 10% of the American population & just produced a president. Can you show me a Palestinian Israeli who’s ever been prime minister or even run for prime minister? Can you show me an Arab political party that’s been included in a governing coalition?

it is routine for police officers to not be persecuted or acquitted for shooting unarmed minorities.

That’s actually not true. Unlike Israel, police officers are often disciplined for mistreatment of citizens. Sometimes there are miscarriages. But in Israel less than 5% of cases result in prosecution & of those almost none are successful. But I’m talking not about the police but about the Israeli military–the IDF & Border Police. Our military does not abuse our citizens & those of our neighbors as yours does.

That is not the case in Israel.

Here are the comment rules for this case. You make a claim, you support it. You don’t support it, it’s gornisht as this bogus claim is. Israel’s record of treating the indigent poor in its criminal justice system is, I’m certain, just as bad as America’s. Not to mention it’s treatment of Israeli Palestinians which I’m certain is woeful.

Why do inner city kids in the US, who are predominantly African American and Hispanic, get a much worse education than the average American citizen?

Because inner city school districts receive far less funding than suburban ones. But the diff. w. Israel is that Israeli Arab districts receive almost no funding fr. the government esp. compared to Jewish schools. There is a diff. between getting less funding than white districts in the U.S. & getting almost none in Israel.

why are you picking on Israel?

I am not “picking” on Israel. I am a Jew and critical Zionist. That’s why I’m concerned about Israel. I am fiercely critical of my own country & government. I don’t treat it any differently than Israel’s.

I am asking if it is right to heckle Obama

You’re actually comparing an ambassador with the U.S. president and claiming they have the same stature? Michael Oren served in the Gaza war as Israeli IDF hasbarist. Last I checked, Barack Obama hasn’t been a member of the U.S. military cheering on our killing of Arab civilians as Oren has.

Am I critical of Obama? You bet. Would I heckle him at a speech, calling him “murderer?” No.

I assure you, I am not confused.

It is widely acknowledged that the US justice system is not fair to people without means. That is not the case in Israel.

Why do inner city kids in the US, who are predominantly African American and Hispanic, get a much worse education than the average American citizen?

In short, why are your insights so damning about Israel, but not about the US? Why do you believe Israel is worse than the US in anything? Those beliefs are not backed by facts.

No it doesn’t. Just look at the Senate. Minorities are under represented there in a huge way. Could you please remind me when was the last time an African American represented Alabama or Mississippi in the Senate or perhaps there is no African American minority there?

Well in that case, the US is completely inadequate. Its occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan has resulted in many more civilian deaths, more displaced people (800,000 relative to several millions). The US killed 2 to 3 MILLION Vietnamese.

Kindly explain how the US is more adequate than Israel??? Why the double standards?

Polling your friends in the West Bank is like polling people in Gitmo about the American justice system. It is irrelevant.

If ol’ JJ here were sitting in an Israeli prison and he was Palestinian I bet he wouldn’t consider his views of Israeli justice “irrelevant.” As for confused, you can’t even begin to understand how confused & brainwashed you are.

One can be against occupation while acknowledging that for Israeli citizens the Israeli system is more fair than the American one.

The Israeli military justice system IS part of the Israeli justice system. Just because it is military doesn’t mean it isn’t a reflection overall of Israeli democracy (or lack thereof). The Occupation is an extension of Israel & reflects on the inadequacy of the entire state. You’re a mere apologist & a pretty poor one at that.