You know, this is funny and sad on so many levels…

You have made numerous mistakes regarding Prof. Cohen’s books. A Hebrew lang. book that came out in 2005 was submitted to the censor as all Hebrew books on this subject (not just his) must be. I have no idea what will happen to his upcoming book which will be published here in the U.S. I strongly doubt he would submit a book being published in English here in the States to the Israeli censor. You might want to be more precise in future & get yr facts right before going off half cocked as you tend to do.

http://www.hagada.org.il/hagada/html/modules.php?file=article&name=News&sid=3786

Ask Cohen about Tal Inbar, or Google him…

http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=498510

My apologies.

Tal Inbar is a reliable source, much moreso than my memory. Thanks for setting the record straight.

Making amends and winning vindication are much closer than making amends and begging, “half-correct” even.

Here is a Raed Salah interview from 2001 (hebrew again, sorry about that):

http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=86678

A Kesset.gov.il is not a link? again with the Israeli Palestinians PC?

“I know of NO negotiations about his new book.”

A new round of hostilties is right around the corner, don’t you think? and by hostilities i mean Malmab investigations.

What about my point on ongoing negotiations about his new book?

Does this synopsis of Cohens’ new book taken directly fr. the publisher’s site indicate the author has negotiated about anything w. the Israeli gov’t??

The Worst-Kept Secret: Israel’s Bargain with the Bomb

Israel has made a unique contribution to the nuclear age—it has created (with the tacit support of the United States) a special “bargain” with its bomb. Israel is the only nuclear-armed state that keeps its bomb invisible, unacknowledged, opaque. It will only say that it will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the Middle East.

The bomb is Israel’s collective ineffable—the nation’s last taboo. This bargain has a name: in Hebrew, it is called amimut, or opacity. By adhering to the bargain, which was born in a secret deal between Richard Nixon and Golda Meir, Israel creates a code of nuclear conduct that encompasses both governmental policy and societal behavior. The bargain lowers the salience of Israel’s nuclear weapons, yet it also remains incompatible with the norms and values of liberal democracy. It relies on secrecy and opacity. It infringes on the public right to know and negates the notion of public accountability and oversight, among other offenses.

Author of the critically acclaimed Israel and the Bomb, Avner Cohen offers a bold and original study of this politically explosive subject. Along with a fair appraisal of the bargain’s strategic merits, Cohen provides a critique of its antidemocratic faults. Arguing that the bargain has become increasingly anachronistic, he calls for a reform in line with domestic democratic values as well as current international nuclear norms. Most important, he believes the old methods will prove inadequate in dealing with a nuclear Iran. Cohen concludes with fresh perspectives on Iran, Israel, and the effort toward global disarmament.

so Cohen already made amends with the ISE

Once again a deliberate distortion. He didn’t do anything, concede anything, ask for anything, make amends, period. He won complete vindication & the right to travel to & fro.

I know of NO negotiations about his new book & knowing him I’m sure there have been none. If you have further evidence, that is real documented proof besides yr own vacant claims, bring it.

you suck at it

Speaking of sucking. If you want to represent a hasbarist position, you could at least support what you claim regarding what Israeli Palestinians call themselves & yr other unsupported claims with actual quotations & links. That’s what the rules are here. Follow them.

“Avner: half corect but way outdated…”

I didn’t want to smear the Professor or spread lies about him or claim he “beggs” to come back to Israel, you put words in my mouth.

This isn’t a rebuttle, this is an update, so Cohen already made amends with the ISE, not about to, I was wrong about the timing.

What about my point on ongoing negotiations about his new book?, please put up the entire exchange, not parts.

About MKs and generally Palestinian citizens of Israel that never use Palestinian-Israelis or Palestinian Israelis, American PC terms:

“Richard: That is false and a lie.”

Again you claim that i lie, again you are wrong, E-mail the MK’s through Knesset.gov.il or your channels, ask other leaders.

“Richard: …however you wish to call them”

I wish and do call them as they call themselves, no insinuations, i didn’t mention their reasons or future scenarios.

“Avner: that is how the Islamic Movement members in Israel refer to themselves”

It is correct to all the political spectrum of Palestinian citizens of Israel (btw, you know how Hamas and Fatah call them? the name has a number in it).

“Richard: Interesting, under all right wing scenarios…Unless you prefer expelling them”

Stop “infering”, you suck at it.

…Thanks, it does make me chuckle…

The information there is half corect but way outdated… ultimately I fought and won and can enter and get out as I please

that is how the Islamic Movement members in Israel refer to themselves

Because all they have is an Israeli ID w. few of the benefits or rights of Jewish citizens of the state.

you never hear MKs Tibi (Secular) or Barake [sic] (Communist) or Baladists use Palestinian-Israelis or Palestinian Israelis, American PC terms.

That is false and a lie. Palestinian citizens of Israel (or however you wish to call them) want to be FULL citizens of Israel w. all the rights & privileges accrued thereto. Any attempt by you or anyone else to infer anything diff. is a lie.

i do not want to be a protected minority

Interesting, under all right wing scenarios you will shortly become exactly what you claim you do not want to be. If you refuse to grant nationhood to Palestinians they & Israeli Palestinians will shortly outnumber Jews. If you annex the W. Bank & grant Pal. some sort of legal status they will outnumber you. Unless you prefer expelling them.