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		<title>By: andrew r</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food for thought
http://thehasbarabuster.blogspot.com/2009/03/they-should-stop-using-fill-in-with.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food for thought<br />
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always disagreed w. yr views before.  But at least they were articulated in a sophisticated way that I could respect.  But this is sad and pathetic &amp; hardly worth responding to.  I&#039;m embarrassed for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always disagreed w. yr views before.  But at least they were articulated in a sophisticated way that I could respect.  But this is sad and pathetic &amp; hardly worth responding to.  I&#8217;m embarrassed for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eurosabra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eurosabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EU places Jewish Quarter of the Old City and the Western Wall, as well as the remains of the Temple under the Dome of the Rock, under SOLE Palestinian sovereignty?  All the while refusing to recognize ANY part of West Jerusalem as Israeli?  I would expect Israel to cease any cooperation with Europe whatsoever, including European distribution of Israeli pharmaceuticals, Intel chips made in Israel, and any contact with Europe not aimed at evacuating the Continent&#039;s threatened (and they will be threatened, for anti-Semites love to beat up helpless Diaspora Jews in a world in which a Jewish state is stripped of its 3rd largest city, Jerusalem, &quot;Palestine&quot;) Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EU places Jewish Quarter of the Old City and the Western Wall, as well as the remains of the Temple under the Dome of the Rock, under SOLE Palestinian sovereignty?  All the while refusing to recognize ANY part of West Jerusalem as Israeli?  I would expect Israel to cease any cooperation with Europe whatsoever, including European distribution of Israeli pharmaceuticals, Intel chips made in Israel, and any contact with Europe not aimed at evacuating the Continent&#8217;s threatened (and they will be threatened, for anti-Semites love to beat up helpless Diaspora Jews in a world in which a Jewish state is stripped of its 3rd largest city, Jerusalem, &#8220;Palestine&#8221;) Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe for one nanosecond that Zionists have done something to force Obama to escalate the war against Afghanistan. 

As for Obama&#039;s speech, parts of it were straight out of Orwell, especially the part where he kept saying, in essence, &quot;war is peace&quot;. I found it horrifying, and under the circumstances, his receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, of all things, to be an embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not believe for one nanosecond that Zionists have done something to force Obama to escalate the war against Afghanistan. </p>
<p>As for Obama&#8217;s speech, parts of it were straight out of Orwell, especially the part where he kept saying, in essence, &#8220;war is peace&#8221;. I found it horrifying, and under the circumstances, his receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, of all things, to be an embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bessan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bessan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Waltzer was interviewed on PRI to comment on Obama&#039;s explication of &#039;just war&#039; theory in Obama&#039;s Nobel acceptance speech.

Waltzer repeatedly called Europeans gutless cowards (in essence) who did not understand that violence is sometimes necessary.

I can&#039;t exactly articulate the connection, but I suspect zionists like Waltzer have done to Europeans what zionists in the US have done to Obama to force him to escalate war in Afghanistan and call it &#039;peace making.&#039;  

Elsewhere, Silverstein reports on &#039;wealthy [Jewish] donors&#039; whose arms were twisted re: J Street.  
Anyone suppose there&#039;s some very big Jewish money sloshing around in Europe, attached to a ballsy zionist with a specialty in arm-twisting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Waltzer was interviewed on PRI to comment on Obama&#8217;s explication of &#8216;just war&#8217; theory in Obama&#8217;s Nobel acceptance speech.</p>
<p>Waltzer repeatedly called Europeans gutless cowards (in essence) who did not understand that violence is sometimes necessary.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t exactly articulate the connection, but I suspect zionists like Waltzer have done to Europeans what zionists in the US have done to Obama to force him to escalate war in Afghanistan and call it &#8216;peace making.&#8217;  </p>
<p>Elsewhere, Silverstein reports on &#8216;wealthy [Jewish] donors&#8217; whose arms were twisted re: J Street.<br />
Anyone suppose there&#8217;s some very big Jewish money sloshing around in Europe, attached to a ballsy zionist with a specialty in arm-twisting?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You, of course, said I’m a “pro-settler” idiot, I’m a moron, I don’t know what I’m talking about&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t think I ever called you an idiot or moron.  But yes, you mostly don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about.

As for the EU &amp; a Palestinian state.  We&#039;re still in the middle innings my friend.  The game isn&#039;t over.  By the time it gets closer to the end you&#039;ll be squirming &amp; squealing in pain fr. all the political developments you will detest that will occur including U.S. &amp; EU endorsement of a Palestinian state.  I don&#039;t know when this will happen, but it will happen far sooner than you would care for.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yisrael HaYom said 30,000&lt;/blockquote&gt;
My God, Bibiton, Israel&#039;s &quot;all Bibi, all the time&quot; newspaper claimed 30,000 attended the rally.  It&#039;s sorta like the National Inquirer claiming 30,000 aliens descended on Times Square last night.  And I&#039;d place only slightly more credibility in Yisrael HaYom&#039;s claim.  Even so, there are nearly 500,000 Jews living beyond the Green Line.  Even if 30K attended, that&#039;s paltry considering the centrality of opposition to the Freeze to the settler movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You, of course, said I’m a “pro-settler” idiot, I’m a moron, I don’t know what I’m talking about</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I ever called you an idiot or moron.  But yes, you mostly don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>As for the EU &amp; a Palestinian state.  We&#8217;re still in the middle innings my friend.  The game isn&#8217;t over.  By the time it gets closer to the end you&#8217;ll be squirming &amp; squealing in pain fr. all the political developments you will detest that will occur including U.S. &amp; EU endorsement of a Palestinian state.  I don&#8217;t know when this will happen, but it will happen far sooner than you would care for.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yisrael HaYom said 30,000</p></blockquote>
<p>My God, Bibiton, Israel&#8217;s &#8220;all Bibi, all the time&#8221; newspaper claimed 30,000 attended the rally.  It&#8217;s sorta like the National Inquirer claiming 30,000 aliens descended on Times Square last night.  And I&#8217;d place only slightly more credibility in Yisrael HaYom&#8217;s claim.  Even so, there are nearly 500,000 Jews living beyond the Green Line.  Even if 30K attended, that&#8217;s paltry considering the centrality of opposition to the Freeze to the settler movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More like the weight of pleasing the United States versus the weight of doing the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More like the weight of pleasing the United States versus the weight of doing the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, he has the open ear of the US Administration, and the European governments have shown extreme reluctance to define a policy towards Israel and the Palestinians that did not at least lie within one of the efforts backed by the United States. Why this is the case is a valid question, and most likely involves the weight of pleasing the United States versus the weight of assisting the Palestinians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, he has the open ear of the US Administration, and the European governments have shown extreme reluctance to define a policy towards Israel and the Palestinians that did not at least lie within one of the efforts backed by the United States. Why this is the case is a valid question, and most likely involves the weight of pleasing the United States versus the weight of assisting the Palestinians.</p>
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