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	<title>Comments on: Aipac Sticks Its Nose in Shalit Prisoner Deal</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is fascism, which is breathtakingly ironic.  And illustrative of what happens within a society which lives in perpetual fear and self-induced victimhood.  In fact, the victim becomes the oppressor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is fascism, which is breathtakingly ironic.  And illustrative of what happens within a society which lives in perpetual fear and self-induced victimhood.  In fact, the victim becomes the oppressor.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the Palestinians imprisoned by Israel in the OPT are so-called &quot;security&quot; detainees, who are never charged or tried. They can be held for up to six months without having charges brought against them or knowing why they are imprisoned, and at the end of the six month period the Israeli government can, if it so chooses, renew the detention for another six months without providing any reason or justification. In this way thousands upon thousands of Palestinians have been held in prison for years and years without ever being charged with anything, and without knowing why they are in prison, when they will be released, or what they can do to earn release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the Palestinians imprisoned by Israel in the OPT are so-called &#8220;security&#8221; detainees, who are never charged or tried. They can be held for up to six months without having charges brought against them or knowing why they are imprisoned, and at the end of the six month period the Israeli government can, if it so chooses, renew the detention for another six months without providing any reason or justification. In this way thousands upon thousands of Palestinians have been held in prison for years and years without ever being charged with anything, and without knowing why they are in prison, when they will be released, or what they can do to earn release.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, all.

Military tribunals.  No public access to information from government sources about charges, trial proceedings, sentencing, incarceration or treatment of citizen and non-citizen Palestinians imprisoned by the State of Israel.

Imprisonment of half a million people, which includes men, women and children, among them those elected by Palestinians to serve as representative members of their government, and there is no data about them available to the public from the State of Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, all.</p>
<p>Military tribunals.  No public access to information from government sources about charges, trial proceedings, sentencing, incarceration or treatment of citizen and non-citizen Palestinians imprisoned by the State of Israel.</p>
<p>Imprisonment of half a million people, which includes men, women and children, among them those elected by Palestinians to serve as representative members of their government, and there is no data about them available to the public from the State of Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marwan Barghouti is undeniably a political prisoner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marwan Barghouti is undeniably a political prisoner.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;[Gilad Shalit] is not a hostage, unless you want to call some of the thousands of uncharged Palestinians languishing in Israeli prisons hostages as well.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

In fact, hundreds if not thousands of those, as well as many of the Lebanese prisoners held for years and years by Israel are by definition, and sometimes by Israel&#039;s own admission, hostages. Israel has not made much of a secret of its common practice of taking civilians as hostages in order to use them as &quot;bargaining chips&quot; to obtain some political concession or other - a clear war crime. Also very well-known is Israel&#039;s habit of imprisoning the relatives, including but not limited to wives, elderly parents, and young children, of &quot;wanted persons&quot; in order to induce them to turn themselves in - another war crime, which by the way the United States has also used quite generously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>[Gilad Shalit] is not a hostage, unless you want to call some of the thousands of uncharged Palestinians languishing in Israeli prisons hostages as well.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, hundreds if not thousands of those, as well as many of the Lebanese prisoners held for years and years by Israel are by definition, and sometimes by Israel&#8217;s own admission, hostages. Israel has not made much of a secret of its common practice of taking civilians as hostages in order to use them as &#8220;bargaining chips&#8221; to obtain some political concession or other &#8211; a clear war crime. Also very well-known is Israel&#8217;s habit of imprisoning the relatives, including but not limited to wives, elderly parents, and young children, of &#8220;wanted persons&#8221; in order to induce them to turn themselves in &#8211; another war crime, which by the way the United States has also used quite generously.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rafi, you can certainly be depended upon to be virtually completely oblivious to reality. I guess you are unaware of the Israeli practice of preventing Red Cross and family visits to detainees by, among other things, moving the detainees from one facility to another so that even in the rare event a Red Cross or family visit is actually scheduled when the visitors show up they find that the detainee has mysteriously disappeared, and no one seems to be able to figure out where they are. And that includes children prisoners, some of them very, very young.

As for Samir Kuntar getting a degree while imprisoned in Israel, he was a 17 year old boy at the time of his imprisonment in 1979, and he and his representatives fought for around 15 years before he was allowed to continue his education by correspondence. There is also good reason to believe that the charges against Samir Kuntar were trumped up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafi, you can certainly be depended upon to be virtually completely oblivious to reality. I guess you are unaware of the Israeli practice of preventing Red Cross and family visits to detainees by, among other things, moving the detainees from one facility to another so that even in the rare event a Red Cross or family visit is actually scheduled when the visitors show up they find that the detainee has mysteriously disappeared, and no one seems to be able to figure out where they are. And that includes children prisoners, some of them very, very young.</p>
<p>As for Samir Kuntar getting a degree while imprisoned in Israel, he was a 17 year old boy at the time of his imprisonment in 1979, and he and his representatives fought for around 15 years before he was allowed to continue his education by correspondence. There is also good reason to believe that the charges against Samir Kuntar were trumped up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Thank you for mentioning the fact that Gaza detainees cannot have visitors from Gaza.  Not everyone is aware that Gazans cannot get out of Gaza without it being a life and death situation (and many times, not even then).  

I wonder if some of the prisoners under negotiations for release are Hamas&#039; parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Thank you for mentioning the fact that Gaza detainees cannot have visitors from Gaza.  Not everyone is aware that Gazans cannot get out of Gaza without it being a life and death situation (and many times, not even then).  </p>
<p>I wonder if some of the prisoners under negotiations for release are Hamas&#8217; parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment is a lot more balanced &amp; supported than yr previous ones.  I&#039;m glad to see that you can admit some of the problems with this astronomical rate of adminstrative detention &amp; the methods Israel uses to put away these prisoners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment is a lot more balanced &amp; supported than yr previous ones.  I&#8217;m glad to see that you can admit some of the problems with this astronomical rate of adminstrative detention &amp; the methods Israel uses to put away these prisoners.</p>
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