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	<title>Comments on: Shalit-Barghouti Deal Imminent?</title>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;a seriously asymmetrical exchange, and they have a history of doing that.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

That&#039;s pretty funny given the seriously - as in hugely - asymmetrical number of kidnappees (as in non-combatants, including children), &quot;scurity&quot; detainees, political and other prisoners held by Israel at any given time. When one compares the enormously disproportionate number of Palestinian and Lebanese imprisoned by Israel to the number of Israelis imprisoned by everyone else the exchange does not seem at all out of line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>a seriously asymmetrical exchange, and they have a history of doing that.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty funny given the seriously &#8211; as in hugely &#8211; asymmetrical number of kidnappees (as in non-combatants, including children), &#8220;scurity&#8221; detainees, political and other prisoners held by Israel at any given time. When one compares the enormously disproportionate number of Palestinian and Lebanese imprisoned by Israel to the number of Israelis imprisoned by everyone else the exchange does not seem at all out of line.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Adios, Richard&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Good riddance to bad rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Adios, Richard</p></blockquote>
<p>Good riddance to bad rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one more thing - have a good time getting past the &quot;unified Jerusalem&quot; issue. Religious fanaticism and unrealistic hopes are a bitch, aren&#039;t they? 

Well, that&#039;s it. Adios, Richard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one more thing &#8211; have a good time getting past the &#8220;unified Jerusalem&#8221; issue. Religious fanaticism and unrealistic hopes are a bitch, aren&#8217;t they? </p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s it. Adios, Richard.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was coming one way or another. Have fun with your unrealistic hopes for a two-state solution, getting past the Right of Return, and hope you don&#039;t end up in a pettier version of the Pakistan India feud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was coming one way or another. Have fun with your unrealistic hopes for a two-state solution, getting past the Right of Return, and hope you don&#8217;t end up in a pettier version of the Pakistan India feud.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve been banned for an outrageous violation of my comment policy.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone with a brain could see it’s a bad deal that encourages kidnapping&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You know incredibly little about the history of hostage taking.  Israel has experimented w. every possible response to such attacks.  When it chose to ignore them &amp; refused to negotiate it often ended with the hostage/s being killed.  When it attempted to liberate hostages it often ended w. some being killed.  After such experiences Israel decided it had to negotiate.  But you wouldn&#039;t know much about that because you think you know everything.

&lt;blockquote&gt;remember how the 2006 War got started after years of Hezbollah attempts to kidnap Israeli soldiers&lt;/blockquote&gt;
More incomplete history...Hezbollah attacked Israeli soldiers but it didn&#039;t start a war.  Israel&#039;s response was what started a war.  That was Israel&#039;s doing, not Hezbollah&#039;s.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You didn’t see them completely lose their shit and make a bad deal like this when the Munich kidnappings happened, did you? &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Diff. situation entirely.  In that case, an attempt to liberate the hostages led to all being killed by apparently inept German forces.  If there had been Israeli hostages alive after the kidnapping, who knows what Germany or Israel would have agreed to.  But most assuredly Israel would not have seen any of them return if it had refused to negotiate as you so sagely advise.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It takes a big man to insult someone from behind a comment rules system that bans insulting him back.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I save the insults for right asses like yrself who are willing to expend every Israelis&#039; blood but their own.  People like you really burn me up.  Shed yr own blood for Israel &amp; then you can advise Israel on when or how to shed its own.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve been banned for an outrageous violation of my comment policy.</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone with a brain could see it’s a bad deal that encourages kidnapping</p></blockquote>
<p>You know incredibly little about the history of hostage taking.  Israel has experimented w. every possible response to such attacks.  When it chose to ignore them &#038; refused to negotiate it often ended with the hostage/s being killed.  When it attempted to liberate hostages it often ended w. some being killed.  After such experiences Israel decided it had to negotiate.  But you wouldn&#8217;t know much about that because you think you know everything.</p>
<blockquote><p>remember how the 2006 War got started after years of Hezbollah attempts to kidnap Israeli soldiers</p></blockquote>
<p>More incomplete history&#8230;Hezbollah attacked Israeli soldiers but it didn&#8217;t start a war.  Israel&#8217;s response was what started a war.  That was Israel&#8217;s doing, not Hezbollah&#8217;s.</p>
<blockquote><p>You didn’t see them completely lose their shit and make a bad deal like this when the Munich kidnappings happened, did you? </p></blockquote>
<p>Diff. situation entirely.  In that case, an attempt to liberate the hostages led to all being killed by apparently inept German forces.  If there had been Israeli hostages alive after the kidnapping, who knows what Germany or Israel would have agreed to.  But most assuredly Israel would not have seen any of them return if it had refused to negotiate as you so sagely advise.</p>
<blockquote><p>It takes a big man to insult someone from behind a comment rules system that bans insulting him back.</p></blockquote>
<p>I save the insults for right asses like yrself who are willing to expend every Israelis&#8217; blood but their own.  People like you really burn me up.  Shed yr own blood for Israel &#038; then you can advise Israel on when or how to shed its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The case against Samir Kuntar is sufficiently problematical that it is not reasonable to refer to him definitively as a child killer. The same cannot be said for many members of Israel&#039;s military, and it certainly cannot be said for Israel&#039;s military command.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The case against Samir Kuntar is sufficiently problematical that it is not reasonable to refer to him definitively as a child killer. The same cannot be said for many members of Israel&#8217;s military, and it certainly cannot be said for Israel&#8217;s military command.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed 100%. Gilad Shalit is an active duty soldier who was captured in a military action. His correct status is prisoner of war, not a kidnap victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed 100%. Gilad Shalit is an active duty soldier who was captured in a military action. His correct status is prisoner of war, not a kidnap victim.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Where do you get off? Really where do you get the nerve to sit there pontificating?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, go fuck yourself, Richard. Anyone with a brain could see it&#039;s a bad deal that &lt;em&gt;encourages&lt;/em&gt; kidnapping in the future by these groups in the hope that they can then use them for this type of thing. And that type of shit has led to wars in the past - remember how the 2006 War got started after years of Hezbollah attempts to kidnap Israeli soldiers patrolling the border area? 

If anything, the Israelis should be more aware of this than others. You didn&#039;t see them completely lose their shit and make a bad deal like this when the Munich kidnappings happened, did you? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;My pt is that you’re a cruel, ignorant, self-righteous, smug SOB and you’re wearing out my patience. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha! It takes a &lt;em&gt;big man&lt;/em&gt; to insult someone from behind a comment rules system that bans insulting him back. But if you&#039;d rather sit here and bathe in a circle-jerk, feel free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Where do you get off? Really where do you get the nerve to sit there pontificating?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, go fuck yourself, Richard. Anyone with a brain could see it&#8217;s a bad deal that <em>encourages</em> kidnapping in the future by these groups in the hope that they can then use them for this type of thing. And that type of shit has led to wars in the past &#8211; remember how the 2006 War got started after years of Hezbollah attempts to kidnap Israeli soldiers patrolling the border area? </p>
<p>If anything, the Israelis should be more aware of this than others. You didn&#8217;t see them completely lose their shit and make a bad deal like this when the Munich kidnappings happened, did you? </p>
<blockquote><p>My pt is that you’re a cruel, ignorant, self-righteous, smug SOB and you’re wearing out my patience. </p></blockquote>
<p>Ha! It takes a <em>big man</em> to insult someone from behind a comment rules system that bans insulting him back. But if you&#8217;d rather sit here and bathe in a circle-jerk, feel free.</p>
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