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	<title>Comments on: Wiesel, NGO Monitor Board Member</title>
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		<title>By: orgo</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/11/14/wiesel-ngo-monitor-board-member/comment-page-1/#comment-116321</link>
		<dc:creator>orgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is ideologically consistent for Weisel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_members

Elie Wiesel[12]. As a student in Sorbonne, Wiesel translated from Hebrew to Yiddish for the Irgun newspaper (November 1947 – January 1949).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is ideologically consistent for Weisel: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_members" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_members</a></p>
<p>Elie Wiesel[12]. As a student in Sorbonne, Wiesel translated from Hebrew to Yiddish for the Irgun newspaper (November 1947 – January 1949).</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad Barwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad Barwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read &#039;Night&#039; in Europe it made much less impact than Primo Levi&#039;s work which takes a different attitude towards the Holocaust and is grounded more in a humanist background rather than mystical one.

That said, Wiesel, has really been discredited a long time ago in my eyes; there are a lot of global issues where the US could have made an impact and I don&#039;t see Wiesel making an impact or devoting much attention to many of them. Spending lots of time and energy and being paid for telling us that the Holocaust was evil or why we should support Israel does not strike me as where much attention is needed. I always thought moral figures who seek to speak out on the international stage should try and give some &#039;voice to the voiceless&#039; not back the powerful. Backing out of a genocide conference which was to include a discussion of the Armenian genocide - the first modern genocide and one which was explicitly referred to y Hitler - under Israeli pressure to avoid giving offence to their Turkish allies, was appalling and disgusting and to me was the last straw, indicating that this individual has no moral backbone to stand up for what is right, even when it might entail personal and social discomfiture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read &#8216;Night&#8217; in Europe it made much less impact than Primo Levi&#8217;s work which takes a different attitude towards the Holocaust and is grounded more in a humanist background rather than mystical one.</p>
<p>That said, Wiesel, has really been discredited a long time ago in my eyes; there are a lot of global issues where the US could have made an impact and I don&#8217;t see Wiesel making an impact or devoting much attention to many of them. Spending lots of time and energy and being paid for telling us that the Holocaust was evil or why we should support Israel does not strike me as where much attention is needed. I always thought moral figures who seek to speak out on the international stage should try and give some &#8216;voice to the voiceless&#8217; not back the powerful. Backing out of a genocide conference which was to include a discussion of the Armenian genocide &#8211; the first modern genocide and one which was explicitly referred to y Hitler &#8211; under Israeli pressure to avoid giving offence to their Turkish allies, was appalling and disgusting and to me was the last straw, indicating that this individual has no moral backbone to stand up for what is right, even when it might entail personal and social discomfiture.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem w. Wiesel &amp; so many other Jews is that they are schizoid when it comes to Israel.  When they deal with the world they are open, liberal, tolerant, even progressive.  When they deal w. Israel they retreat into some other atavistic survival mode they often betrays those other values.  There is clearly a disconnect between those two states of being in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem w. Wiesel &amp; so many other Jews is that they are schizoid when it comes to Israel.  When they deal with the world they are open, liberal, tolerant, even progressive.  When they deal w. Israel they retreat into some other atavistic survival mode they often betrays those other values.  There is clearly a disconnect between those two states of being in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yaacov, you&#039;re yacking here.  Apologists for Israeli bad behavior need to make up their mind whether they&#039;re going to stick with the old tried and true, &quot;the whole evil world is out to get us because they hate us&quot; line, which would infer you&#039;re an embattled minority arguing against a massive world majority, or whether you&#039;re going to whine, as you do here, that we&#039;re some radical leftist &quot;fringe&quot; (you idiots don&#039;t seem to even notice the basic contradiction).  You just see-saw back and forth between one line or the other, depending on the circumstances.  Just pick one narrative, already.

Of course, inconvenient to your jibe here is the fact, pointed out by Richard, that his blog gets far more readership and traffic than your far right-wing blog does.

Once the corrupting, distortive influence/pressure on American foreign policy is successfully countered, and once the effective guilt-tripping of Germany to get her to toe the line on Israel ceases to be effective, the Western world will more uniformly isolate Israel until she decides to behave in a humane, at least somewhat civilized manner toward her neighbors and currently (illegally) occupied &#039;subjects&#039;.  It&#039;s a matter of time, but as time passes, the occupied Palestinians continue to suffer horribly, particularly in blockaded Gaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yaacov, you&#8217;re yacking here.  Apologists for Israeli bad behavior need to make up their mind whether they&#8217;re going to stick with the old tried and true, &#8220;the whole evil world is out to get us because they hate us&#8221; line, which would infer you&#8217;re an embattled minority arguing against a massive world majority, or whether you&#8217;re going to whine, as you do here, that we&#8217;re some radical leftist &#8220;fringe&#8221; (you idiots don&#8217;t seem to even notice the basic contradiction).  You just see-saw back and forth between one line or the other, depending on the circumstances.  Just pick one narrative, already.</p>
<p>Of course, inconvenient to your jibe here is the fact, pointed out by Richard, that his blog gets far more readership and traffic than your far right-wing blog does.</p>
<p>Once the corrupting, distortive influence/pressure on American foreign policy is successfully countered, and once the effective guilt-tripping of Germany to get her to toe the line on Israel ceases to be effective, the Western world will more uniformly isolate Israel until she decides to behave in a humane, at least somewhat civilized manner toward her neighbors and currently (illegally) occupied &#8216;subjects&#8217;.  It&#8217;s a matter of time, but as time passes, the occupied Palestinians continue to suffer horribly, particularly in blockaded Gaza.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that someone is able to speak or write eloquently, even about humanity and human feelings, is no guarantee that he is in fact a decent human being. In fact, being a professional Holocaust victim as Elie Wiesel clearly is, is more than a little bit creepy. He has said some wonderful things, but if he does not live by them himself, and he clearly does not where Israel is concerned, then he is a hypocrite and a phony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that someone is able to speak or write eloquently, even about humanity and human feelings, is no guarantee that he is in fact a decent human being. In fact, being a professional Holocaust victim as Elie Wiesel clearly is, is more than a little bit creepy. He has said some wonderful things, but if he does not live by them himself, and he clearly does not where Israel is concerned, then he is a hypocrite and a phony.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elie Wiesel has irritated me ever since I read his unbearably self-righteous open letter &quot;To a Young Palestinian Arab&quot; years ago. Only people that are able to criticize their own have moral authority. I do not think he deserves the status he has in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elie Wiesel has irritated me ever since I read his unbearably self-righteous open letter &#8220;To a Young Palestinian Arab&#8221; years ago. Only people that are able to criticize their own have moral authority. I do not think he deserves the status he has in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I do hope the old man will not starve to death without his $15M, though I suppose if he had $7M to throw at Madoff, he must still be OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I do hope the old man will not starve to death without his $15M, though I suppose if he had $7M to throw at Madoff, he must still be OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewropean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewropean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said he lost all his $15M holocoust-fund through Madoff. At 10%/yr with Madoff, over 10 yr, he would have had put in $7M only. A great mind he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said he lost all his $15M holocoust-fund through Madoff. At 10%/yr with Madoff, over 10 yr, he would have had put in $7M only. A great mind he is.</p>
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