Comments on: Arctic Sea Carried Russian S-300 Missiles Bound for Iran, Israeli Intelligence Admits Involvement in Interception

By: Roobit

Roobit — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:38:16 +0000

that makes no sense – I know that Zionist statelet is evil and wants to attack Persia – but were Russia to transfer anything to Iran, and I would give them nukes and means of their delivery if I could – then why would it do in via Baltic, in the full view of everybody, through the Danish straits, via the English channel and then into the gulf where everybody is watching you and is on your back. While you can as safely ship it down Volga where 95% of Iran’s freight from Russia is already going anyway and over Caspian to Bandar Benzali. Iran and Russia are neighbors and share open maritime (or rather lacustrine) border.

By: hass

hass — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:41:50 +0000

Maybe aliens took over the ship and were about to use it to shoot lasers at the moon. Or maybe you fell for a story based entirely on anonymous “military sources.” Note how the story gets more embelished with “maybees” each time to overcome logical objections. At this stage, it is simply a fictional movie plot with no actual evidentiary support. Show some critical thinking skills, man.

By: William Smart

William Smart — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:03:47 +0000

I was just going to say the same thing about Israeli piracy, they’ve got away with it.

But there’s clearly still more to this story than meets the eye, the ship has been sailing in circles for a week and ended up in the Canaries. Has it been off-loaded out at sea?

Or how about the other theory – it’s a stolen Russian nuclear warhead that’s on board. Can’t figure whether that’s for Iran to examine and use, or whether there could be some Mossad false-flag operation attempted.

By: Zeyev

Zeyev — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:27:10 +0000

In the case with the Arctic Sea the following happened. During its detention by the Russian ship Ladny, trying to disorient naval mariners, the captain of the dry cargo ship Arctic Sea went on the air and reported on his belongings to the flag of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. At that he called false name of the vessel JON JIN 2 and its sailing route Havana-Sierra Leone, with cargo of palmtrees, as well as his IMO 8018912 number.

During inspection of the ship by naval mariners it was found out that the name JON JIN 2 had been applied with a fresh coat of paint over the name Arctic Sea.

Thus, there are too unsolved questions, but the major of them is the following: “Who was to profit by this action, who is behind the outright cynical provocation, what is the real goal?” It is obvious that the fuss is directed to weakening the role and influence of the Russian Federation in the international arena, blowing to its political leadership’s prestige.

By: Warren

Warren — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:47:40 +0000

dana, I hear what you’re saying, but because Israel often acts with impunity it’s easy to get an exaggerated sense of her overall power. Israel is not in a place to show Russia “who’s boss”. For one thing, Russia has a lot more weapons and nuclear war-heads than Israel, and a substantially bigger army. Even given the high likelihood that Israel has indeed infiltrated Russia’s military-industrial complex, it would beehoove Israel not to rub Russia and Pooty-poot’s face in this fact too much, or use it as a threat. The thing is, Putin is NOT Israel’s patsy (unlike the U.S. Congress for instance), and if such Mossad infiltration started to become too much of a pesky sting on the great bear’s back, I’m sure the real top people in the country could deal with it, kind of like Putin ‘dealt’ with the oligarchs when it all got a bit too much, and Pooty didn’t seem too bothered by the American Jewish (and corporate media) hand-wringing in response to his heavy-handed tactics with that.

Just look at the NY Times today and Russia’s smug, easy dismissal of the likelihood of sanctions against Iran. Fact is, there’s about a 2% chance we’re going to see U.N. sanctions on Iran with Russia calmly standing in the way, which they will do (and thank God for that). Israel does not control Russia and cannot effectively threaten Russia.

Bottom line, you don’t f@%k with Russia, notwithstanding the Israelis’ little high seas adventure. Napoleon learned that the hard way, the Germans learned that at Stalingrad, between Putin and Bibi in the big ring, come on, don’t kid yourself. The U.S. and Israel really do not control the show any more, though they would like to deludedly think so. But this last fact also perhaps makes us and Israel even more dangerous.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:02:22 +0000

In any case hijacking an EU ship by a foreign power is an act of piracy.

The Israeli Navy engaged in an act of piracy in boarding & imprisoning those sailing on the Free Gaza boats. It has sunk Palestinians ships on the high seas. Certainly regarding a weapons system that poses a lethal threat to Israeli military interests, it would be willing to do the same regardless of whose feet it might be stepping on. That may be why Bibi & Shimon were sent to the Russkies to “explain.”

By: SimoHurtta

SimoHurtta — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:52:25 +0000

There is simply no way to find or get to the hidden cargo without unloading the much of the timber. In this case most of the timber would have to be unloaded with the ship’s own cranes to the sea. Have you seen stories about floating timber?

S300 is an relative old weapon system and NATO countries have had access to it already for a long time. Greece (Cyprus and now Crete), Belarus, Armenia, India etc have those missiles. Nato has even tested those missiles in practice. S300 “family” has many generations and types. Surely Israel has some data about them without this “event”.

If Israel (Mossad) would have inspected the missiles on board of Arctic Sea it surely could not be done using Baltic criminals. It would have meant that on the board had been also highly trained Israeli experts and/or the missiles had been loaded to an other ship under Israeli control.

In any case hijacking an EU ship by a foreign power is an act of piracy. It is not very wise for Israel more or less publicly to admit it.

By: Richard Silverstein

Richard Silverstein — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:06:25 +0000

I believe C. is exactly what happened. I believe it quite possible the Mossad/IDF actually physically took over the ship & was quite interested in examining the cargo for obvious reasons. It had plenty of time to do so given how long a period bet. the hijacking & freeing of the ship. If you were Israel wouldn’t you salivate for an opportunity to photograph & examine in minute detail the innards of Russia’s most advanced weapons system? Then, if Russia goes ahead & sells it to Iran or Syria Israel will have an opportunity to design technical counter-measures to defeat it should it ever have to face it in battle.