Comments on: Shministim, Israeli Refusers, to Speak in Seattle

By: Todd Boyle

Todd Boyle — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:17:09 +0000

I filmed them in Seattle and provided the video to public access TV producers. It is still archived on the web at http://www.edmaysproductions.net/piratetvsubdirectories/archive2.html

By: Cornelia Busse

Cornelia Busse — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:17:26 +0000

Maya I was in the West Bank in July and you spoke to our group very briefly, Global Exchange. I was notified by a friend that you were going to be at Hastings Law School to speak and that there would be a protest on the bridge but could not find out about any of these events. I would love to support you and attend on of these events but you may be out of the area. Can you let me know if there are any additional events in the Bay Area

By: Mary Hughes-Thompson

Mary Hughes-Thompson — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:37:55 +0000

Shlomo, of course these courageous women want their message to go out not only to Jewish people but to everyone who is interested in justice for the Palestinians. Apparently you see any criticism of Israel’s policies as “domonization (sic) of Israel and the Jews.” Wind and Mishly are being applauded by Jews and non-Jews for taking a stand against occupation.

By: Shlomo

Shlomo — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:46:12 +0000

I disagree wiith what you are doing since you are probably speaking to a mixed (not totally Jewish group). Maya Wind and Netta Mishly have you thougt about the possibility that people listening to your comments will see this a justification for further domonization of Israel and the Jews?

By: Moje

Moje — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:08:38 +0000

Thanks for the links.

By: Mary Hughes-Thompson

Mary Hughes-Thompson — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:32:31 +0000

Maya Wind was on KPFK “Middle East in Focus” Pacifica radio program in Southern California last evening. A remarkably articulate and socially-conscious 19 year old. Here’s an audio link:
http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/mp3/kpfk_090909_200030meif.MP3

Here’s a link to some information about her, and details of her US speaking schedule:

http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/shministim-are-coming-to-the?page=1&commentId=1970466%3AComment%3A87327&x=1#1970466Comment87327

By: Moje

Moje — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:08:59 +0000

Oh Lord! You’ve completely misunderstood.

I said:

“…whilst military service is honorable when your nation is at war, when your nation is a brutal occupier and your service consists of maintaining that brutality – on a daily basis – then you are at war with your conscience. In that sense, the one who refuses is far more honorable than the one who does not.”

“…putting your life on the line for others is honorable. But in the case of Israel/Palestine, standing up against the occupation and refusing is more so…”

“…someone involved will always believe the country is defending itself…” My argument above is clear that, in my opinion, if Israel claims self-defense when you and I know it’s not, does not mean that Israelis don’t believe it is. You’ve combined that argument with the argument of honor to assume that my position is that “military service is always honourable because someone involved will always believe the country is defending itself.” As far as I’m aware, we were arguing two different things.

By: Shirin

Shirin — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:48:00 +0000

Regarding the Crusades, I think if you look beneath the surface a bit you will find that the reasons behind it were much more substantial than defending an ideology. It is also interesting that you say the Crusaders were defending the Holy Land given that they were the invaders. From where I sit the inhabitants of the Holy Land were defending their land from European invaders.