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	<title>Comments on: Former Hezbollah Intelligence Officer Turns Haredi Jew, Fantasist</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
		<link>http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/07/19/former-hezbollah-intelligence-officer-turns-haredi-jew/comment-page-1/#comment-111969</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why did you include terms like “Hezbollah turncoat” in your language, implying that like Norman Finkelstein, you think of Hezbollah as “courageous, principled, honorable, honest resistance”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What&#039;re ya smokin&#039; Richard W.?  Didn&#039;t you take reading comprehension when you were in school?  &quot;Hezbollah turncoat&quot; means someone who turned his back on his former Hezbollah comrades.  That&#039;s all it means.  Whatever else you construe it to mean is a product of your fevered imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why did you include terms like “Hezbollah turncoat” in your language, implying that like Norman Finkelstein, you think of Hezbollah as “courageous, principled, honorable, honest resistance”.</p></blockquote>
<p>What&#8217;re ya smokin&#8217; Richard W.?  Didn&#8217;t you take reading comprehension when you were in school?  &#8220;Hezbollah turncoat&#8221; means someone who turned his back on his former Hezbollah comrades.  That&#8217;s all it means.  Whatever else you construe it to mean is a product of your fevered imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask about my reasoning.

&quot;You dismiss stories of hateful indoctrination within the Israeli Defense Forces as irrelevant, when you know perfectly well that if similar booklets were circulated among PA policemen it would cause an international uproar.&quot;

Actually, I criticize the demeaning language that Richard and others use to describe those that have even slightly different views than him.

I criticize the utter inneffectiveness of disrespect as a means to persuade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask about my reasoning.</p>
<p>&#8220;You dismiss stories of hateful indoctrination within the Israeli Defense Forces as irrelevant, when you know perfectly well that if similar booklets were circulated among PA policemen it would cause an international uproar.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I criticize the demeaning language that Richard and others use to describe those that have even slightly different views than him.</p>
<p>I criticize the utter inneffectiveness of disrespect as a means to persuade.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Witty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Witty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did you include terms like &quot;Hezbollah turncoat&quot; in your language, implying that like Norman Finkelstein, you think of Hezbollah as &quot;courageous, principled, honorable, honest resistance&quot;.

Rather than &quot;some things admirable, some things reprehensible&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did you include terms like &#8220;Hezbollah turncoat&#8221; in your language, implying that like Norman Finkelstein, you think of Hezbollah as &#8220;courageous, principled, honorable, honest resistance&#8221;.</p>
<p>Rather than &#8220;some things admirable, some things reprehensible&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one, LD.  I was thinking approximately the same thing.  In the spirit of, uhh, &quot;don&#039;t call us, we&#039;ll call you... ?&quot;, or how does that go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one, LD.  I was thinking approximately the same thing.  In the spirit of, uhh, &#8220;don&#8217;t call us, we&#8217;ll call you&#8230; ?&#8221;, or how does that go.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Silverstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Silverstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;conspiracy theories like this one are not necessary to convince soldiers to participate or to convince many Israelis to support their army&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;ve widely missed the pt of this piece of anti-Muslim drivel.  It&#039;s not to meant to convince Israelis or Israeli soldiers to support their army.  It&#039;s meant as a morale booster as they perform heinous operations like the Gaza war &amp; Lebanon war.  The only way to take 18 impressionable kids and turn them into vicious killers of civilians &amp; anything else that moves is to turn the &quot;enemy&quot; into exterminationist Muslim scum--which is precisely what this tract does.

&lt;blockquote&gt;That consent has been cultivated for decades and it is becoming increasingly difficult to resist as you have also commented on in earlier posts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is also wide of the mark by far.  It is actually becoming more common for many Israelis to resist enlistment.  They emigrate in droves, they seek deferments, they become refusers.  Of course, there is a punitive campaign by the powers that be to make an example out of principled young people who refuse to participate in the IDF.  But this is a rearguard action that will do nothing to turn the tide.  Until Israel makes peace with its neighbors more and more Israeli youth will seek &amp; find ways to avoid service.  The army will become more and more Orthodox right wing &amp; become more and more prone to perpetrating war crimes-eligible treatment on the Palestinians.  It&#039;s a bad situation all the way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>conspiracy theories like this one are not necessary to convince soldiers to participate or to convince many Israelis to support their army</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;ve widely missed the pt of this piece of anti-Muslim drivel.  It&#8217;s not to meant to convince Israelis or Israeli soldiers to support their army.  It&#8217;s meant as a morale booster as they perform heinous operations like the Gaza war &amp; Lebanon war.  The only way to take 18 impressionable kids and turn them into vicious killers of civilians &amp; anything else that moves is to turn the &#8220;enemy&#8221; into exterminationist Muslim scum&#8211;which is precisely what this tract does.</p>
<blockquote><p>That consent has been cultivated for decades and it is becoming increasingly difficult to resist as you have also commented on in earlier posts.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is also wide of the mark by far.  It is actually becoming more common for many Israelis to resist enlistment.  They emigrate in droves, they seek deferments, they become refusers.  Of course, there is a punitive campaign by the powers that be to make an example out of principled young people who refuse to participate in the IDF.  But this is a rearguard action that will do nothing to turn the tide.  Until Israel makes peace with its neighbors more and more Israeli youth will seek &amp; find ways to avoid service.  The army will become more and more Orthodox right wing &amp; become more and more prone to perpetrating war crimes-eligible treatment on the Palestinians.  It&#8217;s a bad situation all the way around.</p>
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		<title>By: netsp</title>
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		<dc:creator>netsp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you saying then?

The pamphlets were not distributed or that they had no effect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you saying then?</p>
<p>The pamphlets were not distributed or that they had no effect?</p>
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		<title>By: LD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not talking about spelling though. However, I have to admit - I didn&#039;t know that was a legitimate way to spell the word.

I am referring to pronunciation and tone.

I could say &#039;Jew&#039; in an anti-Semitic way. It&#039;s about how you say it.

And the Christian Right in the Max Blumenthal video are a good example of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not talking about spelling though. However, I have to admit &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know that was a legitimate way to spell the word.</p>
<p>I am referring to pronunciation and tone.</p>
<p>I could say &#8216;Jew&#8217; in an anti-Semitic way. It&#8217;s about how you say it.</p>
<p>And the Christian Right in the Max Blumenthal video are a good example of this.</p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator>fiddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Moslem&quot; is the regular German spelling; when a German says it there&#039;s nothing inherently derogatory about it. I&#039;d suggest not to deduct the political orientation of a poster from their spelling mistakes, although bigots obviously make those, too ;-)
Otherwise I&#039;m mostly with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moslem&#8221; is the regular German spelling; when a German says it there&#8217;s nothing inherently derogatory about it. I&#8217;d suggest not to deduct the political orientation of a poster from their spelling mistakes, although bigots obviously make those, too ;-)<br />
Otherwise I&#8217;m mostly with you.</p>
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